SP: Shy/Inexperienced/scared but attracted girls!

[WorldCitizen]

Okay, here's the deal..
This is the story of my frickin' life!...
Though lately I've been more into the hot hot party girls, there's a part of me that still longs for those inexperienced/down to earth decent (bookworm) girls. By that I mean pretty girls that have never had boyfriends (they're rare but I do occasionally meet them). But here's what almost always happens:

I approach an inexperienced girl. I'm confident and smoothe in my approach.
We talk, we exchange #'s or emails. Sometimes we bump into each other on campus and talk and get along. But the moment I get their number or try to arrange a date/meeting to hang out, they go all confused. It's strange, sometimes they'll be interested/IOI's..even kino sometimes, then 1 min later they have closed BL, extreme shyness, then back to smiling and IOI's, etc. You can literally see the conflict within them. Sometimes they come up to me and talk to me, sometimes they seem scared and walk the other way! lol How do I go about breaking down these conflicts and getting them to go for me at this point? The conflicts with their BL eventually kills my state and I mirror them, hence fvcking up my game. This NEVER happens with party girls or girls with more experience.

Anyone experienced with this sort of thing, if you could enlighten me on this and if any of this makes sense to you, I would really appreciate your feedback
Cheers!
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I'll give you my most recent scenario:
I saw a girl, made eye contact, she was beautiful and she reciprocated..
talked to her, she was open and friendly. Didn't # close (this was almost a year back, before I had any skills), as my mentality at that time was to take it slow, and I'll get it the next time I see her on campus. I saw her again 2 weeks later, she's still giving me strong vibes, I talk w/her, we have mutual friends, we hang out a couple times, then I # close her. Now, I call her, she doesn't even return my message. Now I see her on campus and she's either friendly and talkative and approaches me or shy and avoids me with a scared look on her face. Damn are these girls ever torn up? lol
Anyways, I figure "time" and "proximity" will make her eventually get attached to me, so since I know she's always in the library, I make a habit of occasionally studying in there. Or saying hey whenever I see her on the bus. Now, she's getting more and more quiet, and just smiles and that's it. She's getting super shy/reserved around me or just plain not-smiling. Now, I have no idea how to work around this, so I essentially next her. I nexted her about 3 months ago. I still occasionally see her at a distance on campus but make no moves to go talk to her. What could be a solution? This is not oneitis, there's plenty of other inexperienced girls out there, but the scenario with them is still the same, I can't get beyond the conflicted emotions, pursuing them without any indications of interest seems counterintuitive for me, could anyone please provide elaborations? Thanks!
P.S. I'm still going to pickup/date party girls till I get that LTR with the woman of my dreams--> that HB9 inexperienced bookworm lol

 

[Vincent Freeman]

For some reason most of the girls that I have dated have been like that. They are either inexperienced or are very selective on who they date. Either way, they are both pretty much the same in the sense that they are observant and careful. As a matter of fact these are the girls that usually end up in LTR after they actually start dating someone, so you can imagine why they are usually selective.
Now, like I said earlier, these chics are observant. Furthermore, the best way to win them is through confidence and control. With that, my first advice would be to not show much interest when your talking to these girls. Make it seem like you have women on your nuts all the time, and to them its an honor your talking to them. This will give them the impression that your not falling for them, but rather just interested in actually getting to know them as a person oppose to just looking for a bang. This is the biggest part. Once you have the girl fooled that your a complete gentleman, your pretty much have one foot in the door. The next key to be completely is to get her comfortable. Now her comfort will reflect on your confidence, so if you do the first part right, then the rest should not be a problem. Might take a little time (definetely a lot longer than some HB you meet at the club), but I guarantee you once you have this accomplished she'll be on her knees. Good luck!

 

[WorldCitizen]

I appreciate your well articulated response, Vincent.
So here's my game plan, let me know any tweaks you may suggest to it:
-see inexperienced/picky HB..
-approach her
-don't go direct, just be relaxed and talk casually, ask her about herself, develop some sort of light rapport.
-see her again, small talk, contact close.
-don't show interest or disinterest, just keep it casual, as if you're just making a new friend?
-get to know her, make plans to hang out, take your time.
-after a couple months of this, show interest, go direct, let her know your intentions?
-date her..

Is this correct, I'd love your feedback. My overall clothing style is "decent/masculine/cool" (is this what usually attracts them?), I seem to always screw up with these kinds of girls beyond the contact close, I get a high flake rate from them and rarely get them to date (though the times it has worked out...wow, what great relationships).

Vincent,
By the way, I just replied to a couple of your posts to return the favour :
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=803819#post803819

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=803824#post803824

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=803828#post803828

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=803831#post803831

 

[Vincent Freeman]

Well thanks for those replies, no such thing as a late tip, I'll defienetly take it into consideration! With regard to your post, that's the approach. Don't move too slow, but you also don't want to go to fast in getting to know her as to look desperate. Just go with the flow. Remember, you want her to get the impression that you want to know her for her. Once you realized that you 2 have developed greater comfort and understanding of each other, I would say then to begin the offensive stragety. However, don't take way too long to do this either cause then you can end up in the LJBF category. Let me know how it goes!

 

[GuitarOnFire]

I've been seeing a girl that I thought had supreme confidence but has slowly revealed herself to be an inexperienced/scared girl.

If I just ask her out, do you think that'll help her open up?

 

[WorldCitizen]

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[So pimp its scary]

In my experience, you need a lot of patience to draw out these shy girls...

Unless you can find a way to tap (into) their wild side, they are all way too experienced... they also tend to be dead lays.

The one exception to that was this girl that was the shy girl virging (so she says), but when it got to it I found out after that she had learned a LOT from porn (apparently)... so on the rare occasion they are worth the while.

 

[WorldCitizen]

I really appreciate all your help guys, some golden advice here. It's all starting to make sense to me now...
I think I take their "scared/reserved" nature as a bad sign and I avoid/ignore them after that (I'm not the type of guy that takes crap from girls). I think perhaps the best tactic for me is to just continue to engage them, not push things, and just act like a decent/gentleman type and make polite small talk, show her I'm a good guy, and exit. Then repeat next time I see her. No pursuit, no weirdness, just smiles, small talk, and exit, until she becomes more comfortable with me. When she's comfortable, I'll invite her to chill with me, and test the waters by making moves, etc. If she's cold to it, I'll continue with above, when she warms up then I'll escalate like with any other girl.

 

[WorldCitizen]

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[WorldCitizen]

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