Soo...can someone tell me what this is like?

[Iceberg]

@irocknike23 you can convert her from the friendzone to the Fvck-zone, but its nearly impossible to do. But if you are dead-set determined to do it, its going to require a massive paradigm shift.

The advice I give you is as following:

cover yourself in super dope badass tattoos.

Ride a motorbike.

When you go out, drink only black coffee, American beer or str8 whiskey.

Be seen EVERYWHERE with 2~3 smoking hot babes hanging off you and following you around, laughing at your jokes and agreeing with everything you say. Let it be known that you are banging them without it sounding like a brag.

Never smile.

Always wear sunglasses. When you take off your shades, eye contact is piercing and direct.

Have every guy you walk past put up his hand to give you to a "high 5".

Be the "go to" guy for everyone in her circle of friends~ You make things happen.

Be aloof to her.

Neg hit her subtly but consistently.

Always cut short your interactions with her. Leave her wanting more, yearning to spend time with you.

Drip every utterance out of your mouth to her with sexual innuendo. Make sure its subtle though, you want double entrendres and meaningful phrases, not see-through sleaziness.

Don't feel a scrap or shred of desire for her~ she's the one who wants you, you don't care about her because you have heaps of smoking hot babes anyway.

In other words, change every single thing about yourself and your interactions with others, especially with her.

If you do all this, you might have a 50-50 chance of converting her into the fvck-zone.

This is all pretty hilarious. But this guy is new, so I'm scared that he might actually consider these things.

The point is, this girl has to see you as someone new. Not the "friend" she's known for years. And in order to do that, you have to back off for a while. The dilemma is, during that time of backing off, you'll realize that she wasn't that important after all, and you'll pursue other girls.

Funny thing is, it's usually at that point when girls start to want you.

 

[irocknike23]

once again i love each and every post(too many to quote) but im reading each one and love the advice...

i guess i should start looking at other girls but like i said its hard because i still dont want anybody but her..

and yes seeing her with other guys is hard. about 4 weeks ago my friend said he saw her making out with a random dude at some small party a friend of mine was having...i didnt go that night and im glad i didnt because i dont know what i would of done, because when i heard the news threw a txt i almost passed out because i didnt know how to react to it(latterly almost passed out not trying to give metaphors)

 

[bigneil]

Iceberg wrote: 'Never "just tell her how you feel". You can't explain your way into attraction.'

Sad but true. You put two people in the same room and they either **** or they don't. It's Chemistry. You live and die by it. Sometimes you have it and then lose it, which is perhaps the most painful. But there is nothing intellectual about it. You only seem insecure to ask her about it - you need to portray 100% confidence and it's not easy because they WILL test you. Some will be actually cruel about it but you can still pull through if you are confident.

Working example: One girl who I was dating said "I'm not sure about you" when I went to kiss her. I said "Most women love me". That was the right attitude and a few hours later she got naked. Now just a month earlier she had said the same thing but I whined to her about it and she immediately dumped me - and coldly. I was lucky to ever get another chance.

"Never ask a woman how she feels because she doesn't know".

 

[ls9076]

Irock- I'm going to give you my sob story, and how it felt. Hopefully you will learn from it.

I chased a girl for three years in high school only to have my heart broke. You want to know what it's like? No you don't. I got to hear about all her boyfriends, the muffed **** they did to her, and how badly they treated her. Not something I recommend my young DJ, it's something that still fvcks with me to this day.........and it's been 12 years.

You say it was love at first sight? Well my young friend, she's probly already given you the signal and you were just too twitterpaited to realize she was in to you, and now it's too late.......for now. The best thing you can do? The next time she texts you, ignore it, and when she texts you again just explain you were busy. The next time she wants to hang out, tell her you've got a date.......even if you don't. Ultimately, you need to get other girls on your mind, scratch that....you have to get other girls on your mind.

Go out and get as many numbers you possibly can, this way you'll have so many girls to choose from that you will literally have this air about you that you don't give a sh!t (cause you won't) which one says yes, cause there's ten more to choose from. Once you get out there and start seeing other females, the one you're chasing now won't seem like such a big deal. She'll still be the same person, fun to be around, so rad at everything, but now you'll have that air about you.......I guarantee she'll pick up on it.

 

[Mantis Toboggan]

once again i love each and every post(too many to quote) but im reading each one and love the advice...

i guess i should start looking at other girls but like i said its hard because i still dont want anybody but her..

and yes seeing her with other guys is hard. about 4 weeks ago my friend said he saw her making out with a random dude at some small party a friend of mine was having...i didnt go that night and im glad i didnt because i dont know what i would of done, because when i heard the news threw a txt i almost passed out because i didnt know how to react to it(latterly almost passed out not trying to give metaphors)

You don't want anybody but her because you're young and you still believe in this fairytale-type love. It doesn't work like that. I'm not saying that you can't truly love a woman.....but once you gain some experience, you'll learn to love the women who actually reciprocate your romantic interest.

You probably had these visions of you and her skipping through fields, baking cookies together and sh*t. I'll tell you first-hand, even with the girls who I dreamt of, and eventually ended up sleeping with, once I got them, they became boring. It's always better in your mind than it is in reality.

Anyway, okay...so it's hard for you to get over her. Well, life is hard sometimes. And besides, you never really had her, so it's not that hard to get over her. The whole thing was in your head anyway. It's not like it was a real relationship, and she broke up or cheated. You've lost nothing because you never had anything.

 

[The_411]

The best way to kill your attraction is visualize the guy you hate the most hooking up with her. Guess what ... that's probably who is hitting it while you play emotional tampon for her "feelings".

You have three main choices

1) Keep things status quo.
2) Tell her you are in love with her which 99.9% of the time will end up with some variant of her saying, "I don't see you that way, you're like a brother, let's just be friends"
3) Become scarce find a new girl and develop your life which almsot always ends up with you finding a new girl who likes you, and maybe a few others, you forgetting about your life long friend, and eventually having her trying to re-establish her hold over you for ego purposes at which time if you've grown and advanced you can either turn her advances down, f her, or possibly restrart.

Bottomline your time and energy are value and for a woman to see that it is valuable you amke yourself scarce and unavailable by living your life. Spend more time doing stuff with your male friends, in the gym, improving your schoolwork, lining up interships. That way when you become distant it's due to actually being busy rather than looking spiteful.

 

[irocknike23]

once again thank you to all who keep posting advice its really helping.

im really gona stick around these forums more because you guys have taught me more about this kind of situation and girls in a day and a half than i know for the past 19 years of my life.


anyways i get it. it wont work. dont tell her. look for others girls ASAP. and ignore her a little but dont cut off all contact.


heres a new question that i really want an answer to...

for future purposes how do get a girl i really like in a situation like this?
because honestly when we first met she was really into me and i wanted nothing to do with her.

what happened was we met at a party over the summer a while back, and i only talked to her for a minute and then i went with my friends. she got my number from a friend...also that summer i broke my leg and i didnt attend any football practice because of it so i was extrmely bored that summer. so when she started to txt me and asking me if i want to hang out i said sure because i was at home all day with my cast on my leg bored out of my mind when i should of been on the football field instead...

so we hung out but i never felt anything for her, when on the other hand she used to txt me and call me almost every day and some of the things she would ask me would be perosnall(such as, what type of girls are you into, when was the last time you had a girlfriend...etc)

but as time went on by the end of the summer when we became good friends(about 3 and half months later) thats when i started to develop feelings for her and i think thats when i started to move into the friend zone for her so we actually went into the opposites of attractions..


that story is a lot longer but i cut it short.

anyways next time i get a girl thats interested in me a lot like that what moves should i take to take it to the next level? because honestly even if i wasnt into her at first i thought i was making the right classic moves...hang out with her all day. talk on fone a lot....but i guess it wasnt enough or i didnt do something...

 

[Iceberg]

anyways next time i get a girl thats interested in me a lot like that what moves should i take to take it to the next level?

Next time you're in this situation, don't let yourself get in this situation.

If a girl is on your radar romantically, make that clear. Doesn't mean you have to bang her from Day 1. It just means you have to flirt. You have to touch. Massage. Slap on the ass. Tickle. Compliment her low-cut shirt. Whatever. Establish that you're a guy. Not a friend. A guy. A guy who likes girls.

because honestly even if i wasnt into her at first i thought i was making the right classic moves...hang out with her all day. talk on fone a lot....but i guess it wasnt enough or i didnt do something...

The "classic moves" suck. Talking on the phone a lot and hanging out with someone all day isn't attractive. It's boring. I've had girlfriends who I really loved and I never had long phone convos with them. That stuff is pointless. If it's not happening in-person, then it's not happening.

Talking on the phone and hanging out all day isn't a chemistry builder. You think it is because you're "getting to know each other", but the funny thing is, despite what girls say, they don't want to know THAT MUCH about you. Mystery is good. She has female friends to spend hours on the phone with. She has a mom to spend entire days with. You're supposed to enter a girl's life, excite her, and move on to let her think about what awesome things you're doing when she can't see you. Sitting with someone all day just kills the excitement.

People need to un-learn this method of thinking. I grew up thinking the same thing. "Comfort = attraction" Nothing could be further from the truth. Attraction is excitement, it's mystery, it's fun. And "Comfort" is none of those things.

 

[Chipleader]

What is it like to be friends with a girl that knows you like her a lot?

Its like a wholly unique personal hell that will slowly eat away at your soul until one of two things happen: You snap and finally take a baseball bat to the little AFC bastard living inside you. Or you end up sad lonely and full of hate.

And no Im not joking.

 

[irocknike23]

once again thx for the advice guys

Next time you're in this situation, don't let yourself get in this situation.

If a girl is on your radar romantically, make that clear. Doesn't mean you have to bang her from Day 1. It just means you have to flirt. You have to touch. Massage. Slap on the ass. Tickle. Compliment her low-cut shirt. Whatever. Establish that you're a guy. Not a friend. A guy. A guy who likes girls.



The "classic moves" suck. Talking on the phone a lot and hanging out with someone all day isn't attractive. It's boring. I've had girlfriends who I really loved and I never had long phone convos with them. That stuff is pointless. If it's not happening in-person, then it's not happening.

Talking on the phone and hanging out all day isn't a chemistry builder. You think it is because you're "getting to know each other", but the funny thing is, despite what girls say, they don't want to know THAT MUCH about you. Mystery is good. She has female friends to spend hours on the phone with. She has a mom to spend entire days with. You're supposed to enter a girl's life, excite her, and move on to let her think about what awesome things you're doing when she can't see you. Sitting with someone all day just kills the excitement.

People need to un-learn this method of thinking. I grew up thinking the same thing. "Comfort = attraction" Nothing could be further from the truth. Attraction is excitement, it's mystery, it's fun. And "Comfort" is none of those things.

ok i understand what your saying, but how can you be all mysterious when the girl asks you questions in the first week you know her such as when was your last relationship and how many females have you been with etc..how would u respond to all that

 

[antonov]

iceberg- "You don't love a girl you've never kissed, banged, or dated. That's some 5th grade, Disney movie crap."

brilliant
cant stop laughing

 

[antonov]

Next time you're in this situation, don't let yourself get in this situation.

If a girl is on your radar romantically, make that clear. Doesn't mean you have to bang her from Day 1. It just means you have to flirt. You have to touch. Massage. Slap on the ass. Tickle. Compliment her low-cut shirt. Whatever. Establish that you're a guy. Not a friend. A guy. A guy who likes girls.



The "classic moves" suck. Talking on the phone a lot and hanging out with someone all day isn't attractive. It's boring. I've had girlfriends who I really loved and I never had long phone convos with them. That stuff is pointless. If it's not happening in-person, then it's not happening.

Talking on the phone and hanging out all day isn't a chemistry builder. You think it is because you're "getting to know each other", but the funny thing is, despite what girls say, they don't want to know THAT MUCH about you. Mystery is good. She has female friends to spend hours on the phone with. She has a mom to spend entire days with. You're supposed to enter a girl's life, excite her, and move on to let her think about what awesome things you're doing when she can't see you. Sitting with someone all day just kills the excitement.

People need to un-learn this method of thinking. I grew up thinking the same thing. "Comfort = attraction" Nothing could be further from the truth. Attraction is excitement, it's mystery, it's fun. And "Comfort" is none of those things.

so so true.. wasted too many hours on that t ever make the mistake again.