Something we don’t talk about

[Spidah]

Until your responsible for a chick having a suicide attempt because of how bad you made her feel about yourself you can’t relate

Motherfuker, you're not responsible for shyt. Bitches are responsible for their own actions.

What? You wanna have a life long pity party moping about shyt you can't change?

This bytch is obviously crazy. Let her take her medicine and move on.

 

[NSX-R]

I always make myself clear of what i want and never let the women i have connections with expecting more from me .

Also i consider myself to be of high value so even when i don't make myself clear i believe they are the ones who won something because i gave them attention and made their miserable lives worthy.

I don't even care of their existence as long as i have done my job .

 

[R.U.G.]

Until your responsible for a chick having a suicide attempt because of how bad you made her feel about yourself you can’t relate

Chances are the b!tch did it to herself. Heck, my ex-wife told me she was going to kill herself a few times. At first, I cared. Then, it was just for attention and to get a reaction. Childish.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

I always make myself clear of what i want and never let the women i have connections with expecting more from me .

Also i consider myself to be of high value so even when i don't make myself clear i believe they are the ones who won something because i gave them attention and made their miserable lives worthy.

I don't even care of their existence as long as i have done my job .

Sociopathy. Is this what 'pick up' teaches young men today? Beware, you may end up with a life that is 'solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short'.

I'm all for learning a few of the skills, but it should never become a world-view.

 

[Spidah]

Chances are the b!tch did it to herself. Heck, my ex-wife told me she was going to kill herself a few times. At first, I cared. Then, it was just for attention and to get a reaction. Childish.

Damn right.

Bitches go to great lengths to manipulate you. Guilt, shame and sympathy are their main MO. You can't let yourself fall for their bullshyt.

If a bytch told me she was gonna kill herself I would tell her "Sorry to hear that" and hang up the phone or leave.

 

[btownbuck2012]

I haven't f*cked over any women or people in general. The ones I have done wrong to I have apologized to them for. Big benefit of doing this is I can sleep at night and look myself in the mirror.

 

[NSX-R]

Sociopathy. Is this what 'pick up' teaches young men today? Beware, you may end up with a life that is 'solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short'.

I'm all for learning a few of the skills, but it should never become a world-view.

It's just experience. Is it right when almost all women out there play with young unexperienced males without asking about their feelings? No. Society has taught us that men have no feelings so it's ok .

My experience has taught me that if you want to be happy , you have to have no emotional connection with every woman you interact with and stop caring about them as soon as you finished doing your job it's the only rational way .

There are two ways . You either take the blue pill , fall in love with every woman you do something with get hurt every time it doesn't work out with her and be a provider for your whole life.
Or take the red pill , fck as many women as you like, feel no emotional attachment so you never get hurt, you will never be played and you will never be a provider . It's a win win .

Only negative thing i can think of as a red piller is the much higher possibility to end up being alone which is not nice but it's a peice you pay for having a full middle age life .

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

There are two ways . You either take the blue pill , fall in love with every woman you do something with get hurt every time it doesn't work out with her and be a provider for your whole life.
Or take the red pill , fck as many women as you like, feel no emotional attachment so you never get hurt, you will never be played and you will never be a provider . It's a win win .

Only negative thing i can think of as a red piller is the much higher possibility to end up being alone which is not nice but it's a peice you pay for having a full middle age life .

My problem with this is that it's framed in a simplistic binary opposition - the law of the excluded middle. My point [more the purple pill] is that there's a third way, which effectively and practically negotiates the extremes as posed by logic.

So contra the blue pill, you will not fall in love with every woman you meet like an exuberant puppy dog. And contra the red-pill, you will put your heart on ice for all eternity. Rather, you will guard your emotions, and once a modicum of trust is built up, you might reciprocate the levels of interest the woman shows in you. A process kind of like courtship.

The singing sirens of certain destruction on the one hand, and the ship-wrecking rocks on the other.....

 

[NSX-R]

My problem with this is that it's framed in a simplistic binary opposition - the law of the excluded middle. My point [more the purple pill] is that there's a third way, which effectively and practically negotiates the extremes as posed by logic.

So contra the blue pill, you will not fall in love with every woman you meet like an exuberant puppy dog. And contra the red-pill, you will put your heart on ice for all eternity. Rather, you will guard your emotions, and once a modicum of trust is built up, you might reciprocate the levels of interest the woman shows in you. A process kind of like courtship.

The singing sirens of certain destruction on the one hand, and the ship-wrecking rocks on the other.....

Being red pill doesn't mean you can't fall for some chick . It can happen , without you realising it . The thing by being red pill is that you're able to face and accept the truth .

Having that in mind , you can use it for your benefit . You can bang and be with 100 women or more but once you do that , you will know what you like and what to watch out for . It will be much easier in the end to find what you are looking for .

Blue pillers don't do any of that . They still believe their way is thhe right way not to mention they won't be ever be able to fck and have as many gfs as a red piller will . Blue pillers will have also some experience but it won't be as complete and rationalised as that of the red pillers.

Purple pill does not exist and if it does its worse than the blue pill .

 

[Roober]

Just d9nt be a piece of $hit and you have nothing to worry about. Does the red pill say you should exhibit poor behavior towards women? I certainly haven't read that anywhere.

And if you are mistreating women, then you really deserve all the pain and suffering you receive in return. Someone said it here, practice the golden rule for all of your interactions with other people.

 

[zekko]

Until your responsible for a chick having a suicide attempt because of how bad you made her feel about yourself you can’t relate

Remember that men actually kill themselves at a higher rate than women do, but women will make attempts at a higher rate than men. Many of those attempts are simply bids for attention or calls for help.

Getting back to your original question, I have to admit that I don't like to hurt people, and that includes women. I can see how that might hold someone back from being the "ultimate DJ". That's the real value of psychopathy in seduction, IMO. It's not that it's so attractive to females, it's just that the lack of conscience frees you up to do whatever most pleases you, without regard to anyone else's feelings.

 

[Macaframalama]

Baggage goes both ways.

How do you guys deal with the pain you’ve caused women? Whether it was cheating on them, leading them on, or saying ****ed up things to them. Sometimes it’s overwhelming to me. I sit there and want a good woman but I know ive been a piece of **** with women my entire life so why do I deserve better?

You don't deserve better. Until, you decide you do. Subconsciously, you treating women like chit is your way of lashing out, because you feel that you deserve better, but your actions dictate otherwise. You are taking the results, from the culmination of your life choices and placing the blame on the women, because that is all you can attract with this type of behavior. You are internally realizing your worth. Most ppl choose to live on one side of the extreme (red or blue, black or white), because structurally it is much easier and requires no thought. When, all else fails you can just fall back on rigid protocols, but what most fail to see, is that you are creating your own prison. You are feeling enslaved by your circumstances, because as a result, all you can attract is your own self-worth. This remorse or whatever you want to call it is actually, just awareness. It's the lacking piece of the puzzle, when living in extremes, because you no longer need it, for your bounding method of operation have taken the thinking out of what is very much a thinking man's game, if you are to reach the pinnacle, or your definition of being successful in relations with women. Your current definition needs redefined. The purple pill is possessing the fluidity to float the spectrum of red and blue, black or white, nothing more, nothing less. It requires awareness and thought and is the harder way out. You can listen to your awareness or you can shut it off and keep trodding forward. The world needs both honestly, but there are already plenty of crash test dummies out here.

 

[Soflobro#2]

My problem with this is that it's framed in a simplistic binary opposition - the law of the excluded middle. My point [more the purple pill] is that there's a third way, which effectively and practically negotiates the extremes as posed by logic.

So contra the blue pill, you will not fall in love with every woman you meet like an exuberant puppy dog. And contra the red-pill, you will put your heart on ice for all eternity. Rather, you will guard your emotions, and once a modicum of trust is built up, you might reciprocate the levels of interest the woman shows in you. A process kind of like courtship.

The singing sirens of certain destruction on the one hand, and the ship-wrecking rocks on the other.....

Any woman from any upbringing can turn on you at any time. Purple pill= blue pill.

Unless you date down significantly. This may increase your chances for success dramatically, but she will eventually get a bad attitude, even if she is loyal and makes sacrifices.

You're naive to believe in the purple pill. Silly even.

Our culture is the problem. Yes it's easier to get sex with no strings attached. Yes sometimes women will make more money than you and spend it on you. But don't expect a long term relationship. Either you get ****ed over or you will benefit greatly and it will still blow up in your face.

You think most women are honest and decent human beings? I don't think so. I don't trust women, but I'll act like I do and I'll be pretty straight forward with them in the moment.

What good to society is a single woman who is in her late 20s to early 30s ? Good for ****ing. Good for if you are in a rough spot in life and need some support. But not good for a relationship. Not good for family.

The nuclear family unit has been decimated. Every financially successful woman (thanks to affirmative action) is competition (with an unnatural advantage) for the money that is required for a man to take care of a family.

Yes if what you care about is getting sex without obligation (now they can regret sex and it might be considered rape) but as a society we're paying the price dearly.

I mean if you guys are so selfish and have no problem with this, ok. But In my opinion it is cancer that men should have to compete with women (who have special laws giving them employment just because if their gender) for the money that would enable men to afford to have a wife and kids and give them a good life.

This shouldn't even be an issue.

The way I see it if we really need, have a group of women to have family with, and a group of women who are basically legal prostitutes. Why not?

Don't men want to have it all? Women want to have it all but litterally they can't do it. It's not possible.

But men can and have, had it all. We can do it again.

 

[Soflobro#2]

I do not care. I've had to start over, over and over again. I don't require much to live and be content. You'd have to kill me to make me give up.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Any woman from any upbringing can turn on you at any time. Purple pill= blue pill.
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Actually, that can be said of the red pill. You are turned on by the woman's physical attributes... she is 'hot'. Purple pill, the way I understand it, has reason firmly in the driver's seat, where the erotic impulse is restrained. Though physical beauty may be a necessary condition for attraction, it's not sufficient - attraction is directed more to character. This is not true of red-pill at all. A red-pill outlook actually attracts the worse kind of character... but then this is of no importance as red-pill is not interested in building a relationship. It's quite simple really - if you are looking for intimacy and relationship, you need to modify red-pill to a more purple pill outlook.

Our culture is the problem. Yes it's easier to get sex with no strings attached. Yes sometimes women will make more money than you and spend it on you. But don't expect a long term relationship. Either you get ****ed over or you will benefit greatly and it will still blow up in your face.

Yes, it is a cultural problem. But you can still rise above the culture... this is the whole point of freedom and self-determination. If enough men said enough is enough, then a mass movement might even develop to reverse things. I don't think it's helpful just say the world is the way it is, and adapt yourself to it. This is fatalism and capitulation.

You think most women are honest and decent human beings? I don't think so. I don't trust women, but I'll act like I do and I'll be pretty straight forward with them in the moment.

No, I am not blue pill. The mass of women, like the mass of men, are delusional.

 

[Soflobro#2]

Actually, that can be said of the red pill. You are turned on by the woman's physical attributes... she is 'hot'. Purple pill, the way I understand it, has reason firmly in the driver's seat, where the erotic impulse is restrained. Though physical beauty may be a necessary condition for attraction, it's not sufficient - attraction is directed more to character. This is not true of red-pill at all. A red-pill outlook actually attracts the worse kind of character... but then this is of no importance as red-pill is not interested in building a relationship. It's quite simple really - if you are looking for intimacy and relationship, you need to modify red-pill to a more purple pill outlook.


Yes, it is a cultural problem. But you can still rise above the culture... this is the whole point of freedom and self-determination. If enough men said enough is enough, then a mass movement might even develop to reverse things. I don't think it's helpful just say the world is the way it is, and adapt yourself to it. This is fatalism and capitulation.


No, I am not blue pill. The mass of women, like the mass of men, are delusional.

the breakdown of the nuclear family unit is going to continue to get worse. Think about it. Without two stable parents the girls are going to become little hoe bags, and boys often turn to crime. Look at Black people, most of the young women have an education. The young men go to prison. This cycle is going to feed itself.

On top of this, not only Universities give women special treatment and encouragement in stem, even corporations like Google are doing the same things. Hiring women just to reach gender quotas.

But women NEED special laws and treatment to compete and they still, as a whole, can't make as much many as men. This just goes to show you the difference.

Until the world is as hard on women as it is on men we won't have equality.

If just treated men and women exactly the same with no exceptions, men would out earn women even more than they do now.

You're naive to think it will change. It's going to continue, in general, the direction it is going.

I mean even family court. All of those laws were established when women couldn't even have a real career (even if they had the opportunity, and it was truly equal, they probably wouldn't be able to compete).

If we make it truly equal meaning no special laws, or protections, or consideration for gender and what will happen is women are going to have a very difficult time keeping up, so they will start choosing to be housewives.

That's the only way. This means stop vilifying men who are charged with domestic violence, yes this is a kind of fvcked up idea, but if they don't fear retaliation, why would they behave?

90% of the homeless population are men. 99.9% of inmates are men. Yet our society doesn't address these issues because they don't give a fvck. Instead they have to litterally make up pretend problems like rape culture or how domestic violence against women is a larger problem than the reverse.

I don't know where you get the idea any of this is going to change. Even level headed women are going to instinctively refuse to give up the privileges they have because Ultimately they only care about themselves.

 

[Soflobro#2]

I have a clean conscious, which I believe is due to having no reservations whatsoever in being open and unapologetic about my casual dating and the fact that I will only respect a LTR situation when someone worthy of one presents themselves at a time when I desire such a thing. I have found no shortage of women who agree with and operate on that very same principal.

To be open like this is a double edged sword, though, and most guys aren't open to what it really takes to be this way when it comes down to it. A lot of men are trying to live a red pill lifestyle when they still have that blue pill voice in their head. They want her to be monogamous while he ravishes as he pleases. This requires a double standard and cannot be done with a clean conscious. Yes, many women might operate that way, but that doesn't mean you have to in order to be successful with what you want.

I am currently in a position with one woman, for example, where we are in a twilight zone between plate and a relationship. Neither of us really want to share each other with others, but we also do not yet hold each other to strict monogamous standards either. It's currently undefined. I can steer this either way I want to. I don't have to lie or cheat to live out some circumstance I might desire, such as sleeping with several women congruently. She has shown the willingness to go along with that if that is what I want. But, I realize that if I choose to keep it strictly casual with this one, that she has every right to treat it the same way.

Some guys still have enough blue pill ideology lingering in them to make that a hard truth to swallow. Acting hard core, red pill, super-alpha is a great way to mask the secret desire of blue pill monogamy through a display of "look at how reckless I am with women while thy stay so devoted to me".

I'm a serial monogamist and I'm very reckless and irresponsible but women have spent thousands of dollars on our relationship and or me, because sometimes I didn't work. Or gifts.

I know some guys are jealous and hate on me for this, they're usually probably not good looking, but I'm just telling you my experience so you can gain some insight.

I kind of doubt they cheated on me even in the end. Of course they tried to string me along in the end because they all want to monkey branch, but they didn't get anything for free.

Oh and if this post bothers anyone on here, you can go fvck yourself and stop being jealous because you've done the right time most of your life, make a decent income, and still can't get a woman to treat you like you have value. I've never made good money.

Honestly I believe most men who make good money are all betas because they follow the rules.

 

[Soflobro#2]

Baggage goes both ways.

How do you guys deal with the pain you’ve caused women? Whether it was cheating on them, leading them on, or saying ****ed up things to them. Sometimes it’s overwhelming to me. I sit there and want a good woman but I know ive been a piece of **** with women my entire life so why do I deserve better?

Sometimes I think I try to convince myself I have remorse because I don't like the rejection so I try to talk then back into not rejecting me. Not sure if that makes sense to you.

Plus women are generally dishonest. When I'm being an a$shole I'm usually pretty direct about it. When women are a$$holes they will be sneaky about it and you might not realize what's going on until after you let it get to you.

Why not just assume she did something wrong and act like it? Just in case, you never know, even if a woman is generally pretty good to you (not over the top) she can and will eventually turn on you.

 

[R.U.G.]

Honestly I believe most men who make good money are all betas because they follow the rules.

Most people who make good money are are not programmers or in STEM, make good money because they do not follow the rules and do what needs to be done. Nothing is always cookie cutter my friend.