Something to keep in perspective about girls

[jakethasnake]

Listen guys.... this forum has a tradition of de-humanizing women. And I shake my head every time some guy here makes a comment that just reeks of anger and blind hatred of women.

I'll just say it right now... that isn't the way to go about it, because by stereotyping and villifying women you show FEAR. And DJs aren't scared. They aren't scared because they know and understand what and whom are standing opposite them.


I realized that all the tough-talk and harsh attitudes toward women are the children born of numerous rejections experienced by all of us in the past. Yes, it sucked, and yes we were even shot down harshly sometimes. But you know what? Do not get angry about it. After all, many of us were scared and wimpy-acting then. So we DESERVED IT. We had what was coming.

Now, get over that and realize that you're much better prepared this time. And just let go of your past bitter experiences. There is no need to fuel your anger and embarrassment over being an AFC in the past into your present life. Many of us are over-compensating for our secret shame when we say "all women are this n that", "I fvcked this bytch last week..." ad nauseum.

It's a human reaction though - and it's okay to admit that you've gone overboard in de-humanizing women, but the most important thing is to REALIZE this, and let it go.


So now that you understand the DJ principles, you shouldn't be afraid of girls, or be angry at them or hate them. They have feelings, insecurities, hopes, fears, dreams - just like us men. Try to see them as friends, as human beings. Yes, I said 'friends' in case you're rubbing your eyes in disbelief. Not fvck toys, not goddesses, not enemies, but friends. And having this attitude may surprise you - your casual and friendly (but detatched) mannerisms WILL ATTRACT them to you. Remember this. It's a simple point, but an important one nonetheless. We don't need any mind-programming "anchoring" fluff-talk. Just some street-smarts and sincerity, a decent body and a nice smile (the 'street smarts' part is very crucial - I don't mean hustin', but being alert and sharp in your mind).

 

[bb213]

Right on!

This is one of the most on point posts I've read.
And this brings up a question I've been wondering about: Does the whole ****y & funny thing only attract a certain type of woman? i.e. - immature? It just seems silly to have to constantly be using tactics and be constantly "busting a woman's balls" as the saying goes around here, to get and keep a woman. What about just being a well-rounded and reasonably confident person? It seems most people on here don't see the forest for the trees...

 

[MR_PERFECT]

Re: Right on!

Originally posted by bb213
This It just seems silly to have to constantly be using tactics and be constantly "busting a woman's balls" as the saying goes around here, to get and keep a woman. What about just being a well-rounded and reasonably confident person? It seems most people on here don't see the forest for the trees...

What you stated would be correct if we were all dating guys. Women and men go into relationships with different expectations: Women expect the man the are with to enhance their life; men on the other hand, just want a woman they can share their life with. The second you become boring predictable, she will look elsewhere for that "excitement".

 

[LouieVaton Don]

Originally posted by jakethasnake .Listen guys.... this forum has a tradition of de-humanizing women. And I shake my head every time some guy here makes a comment that just reeks of anger and blind hatred of women.

[/QUOTE] *I think its the women who dehumanize themselves

I'll just say it right now... that isn't the way to go about it, because by stereotyping and villifying women you show FEAR. And DJs aren't scared. They aren't scared because they know and understand what and whom are standing opposite them.


[/QUOTE] *I actually agree with you there


I realized that all the tough-talk and harsh attitudes toward women are the children born of numerous rejections experienced by all of us in the past. Yes, it sucked, and yes we were even shot down harshly sometimes. But you know what? Do not get angry about it. After all, many of us were scared and wimpy-acting then. So we DESERVED IT. We had what was coming.

Now, get over that and realize that you're much better prepared this time. And just let go of your past bitter experiences. There is no need to fuel your anger and embarrassment over being an AFC in the past into your present life. Many of us are over-compensating for our secret shame when we say "all women are this n that", "I fvcked this bytch last week..." ad nauseum.

It's a human reaction though - and it's okay to admit that you've gone overboard in de-humanizing women, but the most important thing is to REALIZE this, and let it go.

[/QUOTE] *I think the overemphasis is due to the fact that we were so brainwashed that women were so sweet and nuturing, in fact I needed to dehumanize them a bit to see the game objectively


So now that you understand the DJ principles, you shouldn't be afraid of girls, or be angry at them or hate them. They have feelings, insecurities, hopes, fears, dreams - just like us men. Try to see them as friends, as human beings. Yes, I said 'friends' in case you're rubbing your eyes in disbelief. Not fvck toys, not goddesses, not enemies, but friends. And having this attitude may surprise you - your casual and friendly (but detatched) mannerisms WILL ATTRACT them to you. Remember this. It's a simple point, but an important one nonetheless. We don't need any mind-programming "anchoring" fluff-talk. Just some street-smarts and sincerity, a decent body and a nice smile (the 'street smarts' part is very crucial - I don't mean hustin', but being alert and sharp in your mind).

 

[becker]

I tend to think this way. I've learned that the less you try to pick up women, the more they pick you up. The key is how comfortable they feel around you, which means that you need to make yourself approachable, yet, they need to feel a little giddy when they see you, such that there's some slight intimidation. You can't be so intimidating that they would feel uncomfortable being around you. You know, those people who are difficult to talk to or have very little interesting things to say. Those people think they're cool, but they're really just boring.

It can't be stressed enough that you need to make it seem like your life is great and you could care less whether you have a woman or not. You have to genuinely be independent, yet be flirty and magnetic with your personality. It's a matter of making sure that you don't make it seem like you need women, but at the same time you like to flirt with them.

I forgot where I read it, but there was a great post earlier that talked about social proof that came from other people's opinions, and this is where it really applies. If you are flirty with most girls, but don't come off as a total sex hound, then there will always be more than one girl who is attracted to you, and their attraction raises curiosity in the other girls, who may not have been attracted to you before, but may be now, since they are hearing so much about you.

Best example is famous people. Let's say there's a good looking male actor, and a girl you're with doesn't see him as very good looking, but her friend thinks he's hot. Eventually, the girl you're with will end up thinking he's not so bad after hearing all these things about him. That's the principle here.

 

[jakethasnake]

Re: Re: Right on!

Originally posted by MR_PERFECT
What you stated would be correct if we were all dating guys. Women and men go into relationships with different expectations: Women expect the man the are with to enhance their life; men on the other hand, just want a woman they can share their life with. The second you become boring predictable, she will look elsewhere for that "excitement".

Mr. Perfect has some valid points, but I think it would be wrong to assume that all women want attention all the time. There are some that do, for sure - they are typically the ones that are out to have FUN. They are often young, some are older, but the common characteristic is their IMMATURITY. These women aren't for relationships.

But if you're not ready for a relationship and just want to have fun and have sex, then you should carefully study all the DJ mind-tricks and related parlor tricks. Then you will be able to get plenty of these mind-fvck girls. I'm not placing any moral judgement on what type of girls you want to get, by the way. I'm just breaking things down for you guys.

 

[jakethasnake]

bump - let's keep this one afloat.


And becker, those are some great points you bring up.

 

[dontmindme]

Well said sir.

I would also like to add that we need to keep this site in perspective. The material in the bible works best if you have your shyt together in your life, be it academically, mentally, career-wise, family-wise, etc. If you hate yourself, and thus insecure about who you are, then these tips and tricks are only bandages and no amount of C+F can save your ass.

 

[killerasp]

very informative post jake.

bump.

 

[jakethasnake]

Look, I'm not fishing for compliments but I want all these neurotic, insecure former-AFC (still A LOT of them here( to read this, and digest it.


Bump.