Some tips from an old pro

[REd-xL]

Here are some things I've learned in my travails:

Girls you get will be as fake as the games you play to seduce them. Play games for a quick f'uck, be yourself for long-term.

Hit on girls when you notice buying signals, talk to them when you're unsure.

Get female friends, and listen to their advice. If you ask them AFC questions, they'll give you AFC answers to soothe your pathetic ego. If you ask good questions, they'll give you good answers. Also, female friends are great for connections to their friends, as well as at clubs.

If you're ugly, learn to play the guitar. I've seen it all too often; ugly guys who play the acoustic guitar get girls.

Surround yourself with beautiful girls.

If you don't have anything funny to say, shut the f'uck up.

-Rx

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REd-xL (20) California

How do you expect to catch some fish if you don't toss out your lure? -Jerome

 

[Wolf in sheep's clothing]

REd-xL? A long lost brother returns to the fold. I hope your tips survive a little longer this time

Welcome back, bro.

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[DJ de Florida]

Originally posted by REd-xL:
Hit on girls when you notice buying signals, talk to them when you're unsure.

Some guys get depressed over getting rejected too much. But they don't "hit" on the women that give the signals. Women actually start the dating process by giving the signals. It is a DJ's job to pick up on those and express his sexuality.

Just talking to women that show no interest may spark interest.



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Don Juan de Florida

 

[Dr_Feelgood]

Glad to see you back REd. Looking forward to hearing more of your insightful posts. Guys like you, Pook, AD, Sir Chancelot, and other greats, made this site what it is. Thanks.

 

[Aiken_Drum]

Originally posted by REd-xL:

If you don't have anything funny to say, shut the f'uck up.

Great post REd-xL, the above needs some tweaking though the above needs some clarification.
It´s ok to say whatever comes into your mind while having a good mind set. The problem is when you feel insecure, you might feel you need to say something you don´t wanna say to look better.
It is better to shut up, if you feel like it.

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[REd-xL]

Think of it like taking a sh!t; if you force it when there's nothing there, it's going to come out dry and stale.

Rx

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REd-xL (20) California

How do you expect to catch some fish if you don't toss out your lure? -Jerome

[This message has been edited by REd-xL (edited 04-13-2002).]

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by REd-xL:
Think of it like taking a sh!t; if you force it when there's nothing there, it's going to come out dry and stale.

Rx

lol

 

[IntermediateDonJuaner]

So one of the legendary Don Juans have returned.

Frankly speaking, I never spoke to you before RED-XL because you went off when I came to this forum.

Anyway, I feel that getting advice from females are going to get men into trouble because some of them give us crap although we asked them good questions. I am not disagreeing with your post completely but I just have a different opinion on this matter.

Anyway, good answer for the rest of the story.!

 

[REd-xL]

In some ways, I agree with you. The reason some girls dispense bad advice is because they just don't know the answer. The solution is to find girls who play the game well, because they're the ones who know their shiznit.

Rx

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REd-xL (20) California

How do you expect to catch some fish if you don't toss out your lure? -Jerome

 

[Don-Wan Kenobi]

Another familiar face! Good to see ya, Red!

Originally posted by REd-xL:
Here are some things I've learned in my travails:

Girls you get will be as fake as the games you play to seduce them. Play games for a quick f'uck, be yourself for long-term.

Hit on girls when you notice buying signals, talk to them when you're unsure.

I've got to write this one down, read it over, and then follow it. It makes sense. I could waste a lot of my time talking to women that are making it clear that they want to do more than talk. Meanwhile, I should not come on too strong to women that send ambiguous messages.

BTW, is "buying signals" from Doc Love?


Get female friends, and listen to their advice. If you ask them AFC questions, they'll give you AFC answers to soothe your pathetic ego. If you ask good questions, they'll give you good answers. Also, female friends are great for connections to their friends, as well as at clubs.


I think that I will take this advice also. I want everybodys opinion on something: Girls that tell you "I've got a boyfriend" or feed you some other crap as to why they are not going to date you WHILE insisting that they want to "be your friend"... worth keeping around for the aforementioned reasons?



If you're ugly, learn to play the guitar. I've seen it all too often; ugly guys who play the acoustic guitar get girls.


I can sing like an MF and have an extensive music background. Started picking up the guitar last winter... guess this is some more inspiration to continue

If you don't have anything funny to say, shut the f'uck up.


Any good books, seminars, or experiences that can help one improve their ability to make others laugh? (I'm sure I've just made a bunch of people laugh with that one.) But seriously?

Great Advice put into perspective.

Don Robert


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[This message has been edited by Don-Wan Kenobi (edited 04-16-2002).]

 

[REd-xL]

No, buying signals is a business term, as is closing the deal and other such terms. The only thing Doc Love is good for is selling himself. Never buy products on how to hone your game. The willpower is what will make the difference, so facing your fears is the way to go about getting better. You can have all the info in the world, but you'll never get anywhere without confidence. Once you attain that confidence, the info you'll find on this site is good enough.

As far as being funny is concerned, learn to talk, talk, talk, talk, and talk. Your brain will quiickly develop a heuristic that will allow you to make cracks on the fly.

Rx

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REd-xL (20) California

How do you expect to catch some fish if you don't toss out your lure? -Jerome

 

[Donjuanpablo]

Hey Red, welcome back.

Just wondering, I remember in some of your older posts you spoke of self hypnosis as a way to successfully gain confidence.

Do you still stand by this as an effective means of confidence gaining and where did you get information to perform it?

Cheers
DJP

 

[IntermediateDonJuaner]

Red-XL,

What are your inputs for it? Do you play the dating game by following a script or something like rules,principles,guidelines which were mentioned by Anti-Dump before?

Or you're just doing what it takes to be better in it?

 

[Page]

Ah Red, long time. After a long race, you've finally come back to the pits for a new set of tires and some methanol fuel.

Good post, except for that part about "being yourself".

A couple weeks ago, Allan settled the topic once and for all, and his advice is to not just be yourself. Be a DJ instead.


Being yourself is a throwback from the swinging-through-the-trees era of DJ-evolution. Back before we were each enlightened, we were repeatedly told to be ourselves by lying women, misinformed friends, naive parents, etc.

The only time where you can "be yourself" is when you tear the AFC out of your personality and let "yourself" become DJ through and through. Then and only then does "being yourself" mean being a DJ. Just as iron sharpens iron, the DJs here wil linfluence each other for the better, and the DJs wil lcontinue to improve themselves merely by hanging out here and reading the threads.


The bottom line (If you're eager for me to get to the point and can't be bothered to read the rest):

You can "be yourself" as long as being yourself is synonomous with being a DJ.

 

[REd-xL]

Good point. I neglected to realize that not everyone here has all the natural skills necessary to be a DJ yet. I just post things as I feel them. Again, I can't expect everyone to be to my level....yet.

Rx

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REd-xL (20) California

How do you expect to catch some fish if you don't toss out your lure? -Jerome

 

[~The_Chosen~]

Good tip. I give it **** out five. hehe, keep it up Pimp.

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[Eros]

Originally posted by Page:

A couple weeks ago, Allan settled the topic once and for all, and his advice is to not just be yourself. Be a DJ instead.

PAGE!! Please tell me you don't really believe this. You must always be yourself. Above all, you must be true to who you are. Why put on a "fake" you to the girl? You will feel miserable. You shouldn't have to change your personality for anybody. Now I do believe that you can improve certain parts about yourself like staying calm with a girl or being funny but in the greater scheme of reality your going to go throught alot of trouble faking the DJ role. A real DJ is confident in himself. His real self.

 

[Jake Steed]

Originally posted by Eros:

Originally posted by Page:

A couple weeks ago, Allan settled the topic once and for all, and his advice is to not just be yourself. Be a DJ instead.

PAGE!! Please tell me you don't really believe this. You must always be yourself. Above all, you must be true to who you are. Why put on a "fake" you to the girl? You will feel miserable. You shouldn't have to change your personality for anybody. Now I do believe that you can improve certain parts about yourself like staying calm with a girl or being funny but in the greater scheme of reality your going to go throught alot of trouble faking the DJ role. A real DJ is confident in himself. His real self.

Eros, what if the "real you" drinks 3000 calories of Mountain Doo and plays Everquest 18 hours a day and never gets laid?

Jake

 

[REd-xL]

Originally posted by Jake Steed:
Eros, what if the "real you" drinks 3000 calories of Mountain Doo and plays Everquest 18 hours a day and never gets laid?

The key is to change who you are, not to put up a front.

Rx

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REd-xL (20) California

How do you expect to catch some fish if you don't toss out your lure? -Jerome

 

[REd-xL]

This one's still useful too.

Rx