Some quick advice for a newb please, seeing hb tommorrow

[Heynow999]

Hi

I am new here and I need advice. I don't know what I am doing but I am trying to learn. I am reading "the game" right now

I am in my early forties. She is in here late 20's. I met here through work and spent a few days working with her but there was a lot of down time where we talked, ate several meals together and were generally very friendly. Our last time together was basically a made up excuse to spend time with her and she knew that.

What happened is we were On an overnight trip and I asked her to stay in my room and talk, she declined.

She is living with someone but I believe that will not last more than a few months.

I am seeing her tommorrow which is again sort of made up to spend time with her. I would like some general advice on how I should treat her. Should I be warm and friendly, cold and aloof? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you

 

[Slick Rick-NZ]

Hey there you have come to the right place to start your journey.
Unfortunatley you can not learn everthing you need to know now.
Learn from the mistakes you mak when you meet with her again.
Could you please provide more detail about the situation.
So have you made excuse to see her right?
I hope she won't be shocked when she turns up to find out the plan is not as expected.
Onwards. Do not over act the situation as she will see it because you can't become acustomed to being this outragous and confident over night.
Be cool and less reactive to her **** tests. For example if she says I am not looking for a relationship at the moment to phase you. This means she will bring you down with a neg and you loose value and attraction.
Don't be phased by speech, pay attention to what her body language says.
You can then reply with something like.: Well thats okay, but Im not interested in just sleeping with you, I need to be takin on 3 dates minimum first. Something similar in your own words will be fine. I can explain this if you like. Don't be afraid to say these things it will make you look better rather than if you looked dissipointed in the corner. Say it jokeingly though. Smile=)
If she is not down to earth and thinks she is highetr than you use a few negs to bring her down to your level. All HB9-10s especially need this.
A neg is a backhanded complement that dissues them in a nice way to lower there value with out insulting them directly. EG. I just sore another women with the same dress as you.,, it still looks nice though. Or are those fake nails Hair extentions ect? Oh well there still nice. Or your the type of girl my mum warned me about.
Keep conversation fun and interesting. It is a big job but you have to keep it going. If you can try to get her talking about something she loves that is good. Other wise try to talk and not you just asking her questions like an interveiw. Tell a few stories. Don't be needy. Don't tell stories that you are trying to make you look good. Just funny or interesting.
Try to get her to impress you.
You could say things like have you ever done anything more exciting than that? Or I bet you have never got in that much trouble in one night out.
If you can leave on a high so she wants more. Cut her loose. Don't drag the interaction out. Tell half an interesting story and sidetract her so you have to tell her another time she might want to hear it. If you can leave on a high and have something important to do like helping your buddy bench at the gym at the minimum. Discuss somethins you would like to do in the future and perhaps you may have a common activity such as bowling. Set a date to do that casually.
Too much too list. Nothing really practical INO. Could spin you a cuople of canned lines lol. Just ask If you have any more questions and let us know how it goes.
Slick..

 

[Heynow999]

Thanks for your responce Slick.

I have so much to learn, but I think I have done OK so far

More backstory, when I initially hit on her it was the night of a two day business trip. The situation was not right as she has a boyfriend and there were friends of hers there so word would have gotten back to the BF if she had dissappeared with me. I know what my mistake was. Niel Strauss says in the game that women are like cats playing with a piece of string. They are interested as long as they can't have it, As soon as you lay the string on the floor in front of them they loose interest.

In our past meetings I was doing work for her as a contractor. Today I needed help on a job for another customer. I asked her if she would help. I wish I could be more specific but I want to keep it anonymous.

She was there all day with another mutual acquaintance. I flirted with her whenever we had a few minutes alone, keeping if light and funny. She already knows I want her, and I have told her she is beautiful in the past. At one point today we were alone for 20 min or so and I gave her a line something like this, keeping it light and funny, I said

Some women are beautiful and as you get to know them they become ugly. You are beautiful, and as I get to know you, you I think you are more beautiful, to where I think you are as beautiful as any women there is.

She smiled and blushed and we laughed.

At the end of the day she suggested we go get a snack so the three of us went some where near her place. I offered to drive her home at the end (probably a mistake?) she declined and we parted outside the restaurant.

That is all the good points of the day, but also during the day I offered to go away with her again overnight and she declined. She was sending a clear message that she was not interested.

What I would really like is to be in a relationship with her, and I expect I will have to wait until the BF leaves, which should happen in a few months. I would like to keep her on the backburner. I have to keep in touch with her, and somehow get her interested in me again, as I think she may have been initially.

Is it possiblle, what should I do?

I need to still see her again to tie up some loose ends from our initial project, I have to be professional about that.

please critque

 

[phatboi408]

Be professional, getting a girl is not worth loosing your job over. First learn game, it seems to me you have no idea the basic concepts of game.

 

[Heynow999]

First learn game, it seems to me you have no idea the basic concepts of game.

You are right, where do I start, what can I read?

 

[PokerStar]

go to the Don Juan Tips and Archives. tons of info.

 

[Slick Rick-NZ]

Okay. Go to doubleyourdating.com and read david deagelos ebook.
This is where I started and probly alot of others.
It will not make you a pimp overnight, but it will kick you in the balls with a new perspective on how to actually treat women. That was the most eye opening for me. You will be guttered with yourself when you read it and relise what you have been doing wrong. I think you will learn alot in this area also because you seem abit too cheesy telling a girl she is beatiful ect something you should probly never do, or often any way.
Derek Rake also has a few Ebooks he appears to be one of the heavy weights although I have not read his stuff. But David Deangelos stuff teaches the basics which you would never relise yourself.
Go there, get it, read it, think it, practice it and come back and ask more questions.
Slick..

 

[crazyboy]

The most important things is to relax and let everything just flow. Treated her respectly you don't have to bring flowers and stuff. If you want to open door and pull out chairs. Thats fine just don't be a yes man or agreeing with everything she saids. Its ok have your own opinion. Don't bring up the usual topics of religion and politics. Also be a little physical grab her hand if you got enough confidence in yourself give her a hug when you see her. But mainly relax keep the convo neutral don't bring up any nerdy habits you might have ex: video game, stars wars collection, baseball ball cards. She doesn't need to know that. Most importantly you ask question that are not yes or no question and have her do most of talking. Also be sure you asking listening to what she said. Cuz ill guarntee you she would check to see if you were listening. Pick date where you would also be comfortable personally i like bowling. You don;t have to be good at to have fun. and you get watch her back side.