Some free truthful advice

[Zman63]

When it comes to dating a woman's interest level in you is the only thing that matters. She doesn't care about yours.

If you are confused as to whether she likes you or not, 99.9 percent of the time she doesnt like you. Interested woman will not confuse you. A woman that breaks dates without making a counteroffer for another date are not interested in you.

Women with a high interest level keep dates and give direct counter offers for another day if they are interested. Remember you must hear a specific day for the counter offer to be legit.

The first test is asking the woman directly for her home phone number. If get the cell or any other excuse as to why she wont give you the home one just walk away. She isnt interested in you.

The second test is waiting 5-9 days before you call. This is only if you get the home phone number. Ask her for a date and time and then shut up. Her response to your date offer will tell you everything about her interest level in you.

Only 3 out of every 30 single women you come in contact with are truly interested in you. Only 1 out of those three have a good attitudes.


Finding the right one is a numbers game.

Hope this helps

 

[Jackman]

The second test is waiting 5-9 days before you call. This is only if you get the home phone number. Ask her for a date and time and then shut up. Her response to your date offer will tell you everything about her interest level in you.

That's right boys. The longer you wait the better. Because by the time you call her, I'm going to be pulling her panties down.

"Zman who? Oh, oh. That's right. The bar, last week.... yeah... hey, um...listen, I've got to go." *click*

 

[Ojete]

I agree with the numbers game part, but...

If you are confused as to whether she likes you or not, 99.9 percent of the time she doesnt like you. Interested woman will not confuse you. A woman that breaks dates without making a counteroffer for another date are not interested in you.

Not every dynamic is the same, and that has not been true for my experiencies and people around me. As a matter of fact, many times the girl confuses you via her own 'games' (I say many times because you cannot generalize), and she's even attracted a lot to you, or there may be real reasons why she has to 'cancel' and/or avoids you (a boyfriend, ex lover who came back, etc), even if she's hot for you.

So, if you don't 'date' and instead try to 'close' her when the time is right, even after she has avoided you, you can still get physical with her.

What you say is logical, of course, and some things like the numbers game is great, but when you experience what I said above, and watch others experience that, you come to realize that there are many types of dynamic.

Just my $0.02.

 

[AudiTy]

No offence, but with this advice you get what you pay for.

-AudiTy =o

 

[Schmuck]

I think I've heard this stuff before somewhere....

 

[DivineNetworks]

That's for sure: If u catch yaself wondering wether she likes u or not - U can be SURE - she don't. No matter what bs u think for yourselves to "Rationalize" reasons why she should be acting like that.

Look at yaself - Do u act "Misleading" or "Strange" when u feel natural attraction to some girl?? NO - vice versa - u want everything to be as smooth and easy for both of you as it's possible. So stop whining and thinking every kind of sh1t - "Why she should be acting like that".

 

[Schmuck]

That's for sure: If u catch yaself wondering wether she likes u or not - U can be SURE - she don't. No matter what bs u think for yourselves to "Rationalize" reasons why she should be acting like that.

Look at yaself - Do u act "Misleading" or "Strange" when u feel natural attraction to some girl?? NO - vice versa - u want everything to be as smooth and easy for both of you as it's possible. So stop whining and thinking every kind of sh1t - "Why she should be acting like that".

Yeah, when chicks like you they meet you half way at least.

 

[Randomer]

Only 3 out of every 30 single women you come in contact with are truly interested in you. Only 1 out of those three have a good attitudes.

True it is a numbers game but damn... are those the numbers that most people work with? Also, I'm curious why you think that a home number is the number 1 thing to look for, really I'd rather have the cell # and in my experience, I've definitely not gone wrong with getting the cell...could be partly an age group thing though

 

[Bvbidd]

That's right boys. The longer you wait the better. Because by the time you call her, I'm going to be pulling her panties down.

"Zman who? Oh, oh. That's right. The bar, last week.... yeah... hey, um...listen, I've got to go." *click*

Best reply.

 

[Phyzzle]

think I've heard this stuff before somewhere....

It's Doc Love's System. It's not aimed at getting you laid with 20 year olds, it's made for finding a wife who won't cheat on and dump you.

A noble goal, but there is so much more fun to be had on the way.

 

[Zman63]

True it is a numbers game but damn... are those the numbers that most people work with? Also, I'm curious why you think that a home number is the number 1 thing to look for, really I'd rather have the cell # and in my experience, I've definitely not gone wrong with getting the cell...could be partly an age group thing though

The home phone number is big because 7 years ago that was the only way to contact somebody. Plus it is harder to change. I remember being in highschool then just before cell phones became standard. If you asked for her phone number it was her home one. The ones that liked you made it easy. The ones that didnt would make an excuse or say to give yours instead.

Another reason why the home number is big is because of where she will be when you call her. In using the cell phone you never know where she is. You want her to be at home and comfortable to talk when you call her.

An interested woman will give you the home phone number. You must ask directly "what is your home phone number" If she feels comfortable with you and is truly interested there is no way she can turn you down.

Her giving you the cell phone or the work number are signs of low interest level. Any other excuses as to why she wont give you her home number is low interest level. You will be wasting your time and money with her.

Here is how you play this game:

“Men think that the cell phone number is the same as the home phone number, but it’s not.” -- The Reality Factor.

You ask for her home phone number and she rattles off her cell phone number. So what do you do? Let me show you the variations you can play on this game.

1. Write her number down on the back of your business card. Then ask her if she has a hard-wire phone in her home. If she says no, you’re okay.

2. Peck her number into your cell phone on the spot and call her. If it rings, you know that she gave you the right number. Then ask her if she has a hard-wire phone at home. If she says that she has four roommates, or that her parents don’t like guys to call her at home, or some other excuse, don’t say any more and get out of there.

If she stutters when you ask her if she has a hard-wire phone, she’s out. If she doesn’t stutter, she’s probably telling the truth. At all times, you will remember everything she says.

Remember, guys: Nothing beats the home phone number.

 

[Zman63]

It's Doc Love's System. It's not aimed at getting you laid with 20 year olds, it's made for finding a wife who won't cheat on and dump you.

A noble goal, but there is so much more fun to be had on the way.

But you waste time and money on them. What happens if you (the guy) do fall in love with the fvck buddy and ask them to marry you? Then you have a chick that only wanted you for your tool and money.

Then what do you do?

 

[Randomer]

I don't really know what to say man, I've had no problems with getting cell phone numbers, usually within the first week I get a call from an unknown number that turns out to be the home # anyway... not that I call it even when I do get it, unless she happens to be at home and there's something wrong with the reception (has happened before.) If I call a girl, I want to reach her... which is what a cell phone is best for. If she's busy she won't pick up and will call me back later anyway

Actually now looking at your first post, don't you think you're contradicting yourself? You first say that all that matters is her interest level, then you make such a big deal over a home phone number... Now wouldn't it make sense that it not matter which number you have of hers if her interest level is high?

 

[Jackman]

I think you're making a much bigger deal of the home number than it really is. You may remember a time before cell phones became standard, but I remember a time when there was no internet. I've managed to keep up to date and adapt to technology. I have functioned perfectly well many times over without the home number. In fact, I can recall several recent situations where I would have never gotten laid if I had insisted on the home number.

As far as wasting time and money, you should talk to all of the guys I work with. Every one of them married and every one of them has to work overtime because the b*tch at home can't resist using those credit cards or convinces the guy they need more money to live better. These guys actually fight to work more hours. Marriage is such a financial strain that the idea of dropping a few bucks on a date is laughable in comparison. And this is in considering you're the type to always pay. I haven't covered the entire check on a date since, oh, I don't know... 1997?

Overall, I think these ideas you're pushing here rely far too much on high IOI signals and hardly enough on confidence. It's a very safe approach. Too safe if you ask me. Spot-checking a woman's number is a sign of insecurity, and if nothing else shows you have been played before. I will admit, though, I like the idea that more and more guys are doing this, because I stand out more for not doing it. Waiting too long to call is so overdone it's practically obvious you're playing the game. I don't know how many of you guys are actually out there, but I've never had a woman lose interest in me for calling her within a day or two, yet I lose them left and right when I wait longer than 3 days. 5-9 days? You're out of your mind. I would never wait that long.

Personally, I think you're methods only work on naive women. I think you're eliminating just as many prospects as you are eliminating flakes, because I know for a fact thats what would happen to me if I practiced these methods.

 

[Phoenix_of_the_ashes]

Wow man, free advice, on this board?

Thanks man!!!

 

[DivineNetworks]

Who the f.UCK cares wether the nuber is cell or analog??? Get that friggin number at all. If she'll give it wthouthesitation - u can call it even the next day. if she IS ineterested, that would be NO fckin problem. Get over you bs guys, u are overanalyzing all this SIMPLE thing.

 

[AudiTy]

It is a science, everything has different effects
whether you choose to acknowledge that fact
or not. Point taken, there isn't a great deal
difference which number it is, but accept that
people will analyse this, and they have their
own reasons for every decision they make.

-AudiTy =o

 

[Tomatoes]

That's right boys. The longer you wait the better. Because by the time you call her, I'm going to be pulling her panties down.

Totally agree...

I looked at this post and I thought....i bet this is another AFC hater who is not leaving anything worth my time...

But in the intrest of proving myself wrong i read on and I was right...oh well next time.

As for the landline....It wont exsist in 5 years. Only for broadband. Mobile companies are buying out the broadband ISPs and offering the broadband free while landline providers do nothing.

5 years...8 at most and we wont have home phones....Just mobiles.


Sarge On!

 

[Blusher]

But you waste time and money on them. What happens if you (the guy) do fall in love with the fvck buddy and ask them to marry you? Then you have a chick that only wanted you for your tool and money.

Then what do you do?

You must be both insecure and inexperienced to be soooooo afraid that your libido might make such crucial decision for you.

By definition, I dont fall in love with fvck buddies, doesn't mean I didn't like them and/or respect them. But they're friends not LTR material.

It's just common sense, but well, if you need Doc Love to tell you what to do at all times, it's your problem buddy.

 

[Zman63]

You must be both insecure and inexperienced to be soooooo afraid that your libido might make such crucial decision for you.

By definition, I dont fall in love with fvck buddies, doesn't mean I didn't like them and/or respect them. But they're friends not LTR material.

It's just common sense, but well, if you need Doc Love to tell you what to do at all times, it's your problem buddy.

You dont get it do you? I already wasted my time on screwing around with women. I have had sex with plenty and definately paid for my mistake by contracting a curable STD three years ago. That is something I am not proud of. I was wasting time and money on these girls and endangering my health at the same time.

I am at the point in my life where I would like lots of sex with one good chick. You guys take it for what its worth. If you just want a new fvck buddy each week or month my advice isnt geared towards you.

For guys out there that do want one good woman take heed to my advice in this post.