Social Status / Women Explained

[Demon Lord]

Like i said, women are crazy... Where are they hiding their sense of logic?

 

[mb121]

This article's premise is flat out wrong. Women are attracted to high status males because their instincts tell them they have the ability to provide for their offspring.

It's still good advice, though.

 

[Maximus_Decimus]

This article's premise is flat out wrong. Women are attracted to high status males because their instincts tell them they have the ability to provide for their offspring.

It's still good advice, though.

Read the article again (written by Hitori) because you don't get it. Women are attracted to true Alpha Males.

What is one quality of an Alpha Male in our society? To be an Alpha Male is to be a leader. Thus, an Alpha Male is socially intelligent because the opposite of that - a social retard - will never retain followers and does not make a good leader.

Bill Clinton is a prime example of a socially intelligent man who made it to the top. In fact, most politicians who make it to the top have excellent social skills.

 

[Speculator E]

I read this awhile back. It's still good advice for newbies.

 

[Speculator E]

I read this awhile back. It's still good advice for newbies.

Was looking through old posts. Re-bumping for newbies.

 

[ArcBound]

Damn... this explains a lot. I knew women went for status but this post just takes things to a whole 'nother level.

 

[zekko]

there are all kinds of ways to be desirable and admired; hot chicks fit into this category, but so do politicians, rocket scientists, rockstars, PUAs (Pick Up Artist), and rich men. In

I think the original post is very good, but this part makes me wonder a little. Why do PUAs have value?

 

[Scars]

I read this awhile back. It's still good advice for newbies.

I actually think it's the exact opposite. For a beginner, this can be information overload. This material is for men with an already good understanding of woman, game, and social status. It just reevaluates everything methodically.

I've stated this before in a few friends, and I know a lot of people don't like hearing it, but.. there's guys that just GET IT and then there is guys that just don't. An already established PUA with good intuition skills can gain a lot from advice like this. Other guys will take it too seriously and end up falling victim to the many traps mentioned. Everything stated should be a natural skill. You should have read it already KNOWING everything you're reading but were simply being reminded. A good PUA will have already adapted these skills naturally. When you start analyzing every social situation then that is when you will slip up. You will either be too slowly, or anything you say comes out as forced. You need to be quick and witty. This comes from being naturally comfortable in your environment. I would recommend any beginner to stay focused on the fundamentals first. There is a certain mindset you must maintain at all times. Once you adapt it, then everything simply falls into place. Advice like this is great, but this should be natural skills you should already know, and if you don't, then you have some work to do.

-Scars

 

[Deep Dish]

One point I want to chime in:

SLUTS CHASE. Women will avoid being labelled 'sluts' at all costs because they are at the BOTTOM of the social totem-pole, with the WBAFCs (Way Beyond AFC). Sluts in the traditional sense are women whose need for validation is so great that they have gambled away all their buying power trying to fill it. A woman who is perceived as slutty has a hard time finding quality ass because quality ass is likely to screen _her_. She is a LAST RESORT F*CK.

Not only that, but other women (and men) on their way up the social ladder will step on her, on the way. They will use her to reinforce their own superiority. The 'slut' is a lightning-rod for the 'cement someone's position as below you' method of gaining status.
Sad, but true.

The paradox of sluts is sluts have high standards in men. This, pursuant to their ability to attract the caliber of men they desire. It's easy to think of sluts as easy, panty dropping, fun lays, to which they are for higher value men, but a promiscuous hot beautiful cute chick will not readily bang, in popular parlance, a desperate loser. Sluts are like every other chick in that they are constitutionally wired by hypergamy. A slut can sleep with the proverbial football team but make you wait six weeks to hit it.

 

[Sneevox]

There is a real world and you won’t get there by climbing the hierarchy of ‘social status.’ The real world must be made by you. It will be the world you create. And you know what? You’ll love it there and people will wonder how you can be so confident and happy with your life. When you talk to them, you will already be in tune with yourself so that for the first time you can also be in tune with the girl. She won’t be wondering in her head whether or not you’re one of the cool guys, because she’ll be too immersed in you, too impressed.

BOOM. This is the most important information in the entire thread.

Listen to this guy. He knows his sh!t.
"you've been reading the book of pook too much, Sneev!"

No. I'm not, and he's not, some Pook worshiper just because it sounds like he knows what he's talking about. Being a man has nothing, I repeat... NOTHING to do with how high you are on the womanish hierarchy of social status. Leave that alone and put yourself above yourself at all times. People will notice.

You're supposed to ignore hierarchy and live based on your own personal hierarchy of what you believe you are on, and always be climbing.

They don't rank you based on other people, but rank you based on your overall confidence, wealth, skill and personal understanding of life. If you have fame and are a complete douche, nobody will care. They'll just like you less and watch your movies less.

Look at Morgan Freeman. Look at Will Smith. Those guys are loved. They're incredible actors and they're very smart and understanding, as well as wealthy and famous.

There is no such thing as "Alpha" or "Not Alpha". Merely "More Alpha" or "Less Alpha." Alphas are leaders, not followers or sexual gurus. Following the idea of hierarchy and trying to make your way to the top because you want people to like you is... following the common desire to be popular. You're seeking approval.

The woman in this article is right. Seeking approval makes you less valuable... but what she doesn't see is that only SHE sees it like this. To see it like this is okay as a woman, but not as a man. Men are to be the leaders and disregard hierarchy, for all will see he is a worthy leader when he has made his way to the top of his personal peak.

 

[goundra]

God, no wonder that I avoided them all thru high school. what a pain in the ass.

 

[goundra]

hey, only about 1 guy in 5 can be alpha, so guess what you other 80% ?

 

[casaanova]

These are general principles of things that will increase your social status. If you don't have any in the first place, these -will not work-, I repeat, -will not work-. They require a steady foundation of at least moderate coolness. With that said...

Yup, this was definitely written by a woman. Doing everything she can to make sure boring, naive betas stay boring, naive betas. Women HATE HATE HATE to see betas learn to be alpha, even if she's in a position to help them better themselves. "If you don't have any in the first place these will not work" gtfoh

 

[Blackhole105]

I actually think it's the exact opposite. For a beginner, this can be information overload. This material is for men with an already good understanding of woman, game, and social status. It just reevaluates everything methodically.

I've stated this before in a few friends, and I know a lot of people don't like hearing it, but.. there's guys that just GET IT and then there is guys that just don't. An already established PUA with good intuition skills can gain a lot from advice like this. Other guys will take it too seriously and end up falling victim to the many traps mentioned. Everything stated should be a natural skill. You should have read it already KNOWING everything you're reading but were simply being reminded. A good PUA will have already adapted these skills naturally. When you start analyzing every social situation then that is when you will slip up. You will either be too slowly, or anything you say comes out as forced. You need to be quick and witty. This comes from being naturally comfortable in your environment. I would recommend any beginner to stay focused on the fundamentals first. There is a certain mindset you must maintain at all times. Once you adapt it, then everything simply falls into place. Advice like this is great, but this should be natural skills you should already know, and if you don't, then you have some work to do.

-Scars

I think i have some work to do then

 

[zenaddict]

I ran into this little gem over at www.fastseduction.com. Definitely one of the more insightful threads I've read in the last few months. It is supposedly written by a woman. Regardless of the gender of the writer, the writer is dead on and there is much to be learned from this thread. For those new to the seduction community, it is not an easy read … but if you take the time to understand each and every concept below, it is well worth it. Following the thread, I will post my own commentary on what Hitori wrote

for short you/he say:

QUALITIES OF HIGH STATUS PEOPLE
1. They are admired and desirable.
2. They are relaxed and confident
3. They behave naturally
4. Their time and energy has value
5. They are socially intelligent

if you have no emotional turmoil in your head and you feel good about the stuff you are doing, as in you got a career, direction in life whatever, you`ll behave just like that

you can`t reverse engineer that one by observations

like do this and you should get status automatically? :crackup:

YOU GAIN STATUS WHEN:
a. Your worth is recognized and appreciated
b. People seek your approval
c. You display competence naturally
d. You cement someone's position beneath you
e. You screen

do you know, who go bonkers all day every day in every situation about their status and the people around them? --> women

so good luck turning yourself into a shemale :crackup:

a man acts, knows what he wants, goes after the stuff he wants, actions speak louder than words and while you are checking out what others are thinking of you, you aren`t being the thing that makes you a man in a first place, the ability to act from your own intentions

you are 45, you should have children and you keep on posting on a forum like this? how could you be valid? even an afc will grow old, does that mean that his butthurt is worth more, because he felt it for decades? :crackup:

 

[Megaman XIV]

These days it's all about the man who MADE IT, not the working man trying to come up. Game can only do so much for you, and even then, it's in the gray area of attraction. Women like the looks and the money and what you can do for them.

Getting with a woman and a job interview are two very similar events.

Hell, read my sig.

/thread.

 

[Gro0ver]

BOOM. This is the most important information in the entire thread.

Listen to this guy. He knows his sh!t.
"you've been reading the book of pook too much, Sneev!"

No. I'm not, and he's not, some Pook worshiper just because it sounds like he knows what he's talking about. Being a man has nothing, I repeat... NOTHING to do with how high you are on the womanish hierarchy of social status. Leave that alone and put yourself above yourself at all times. People will notice.

You're supposed to ignore hierarchy and live based on your own personal hierarchy of what you believe you are on, and always be climbing.

They don't rank you based on other people, but rank you based on your overall confidence, wealth, skill and personal understanding of life. If you have fame and are a complete douche, nobody will care. They'll just like you less and watch your movies less.

Look at Morgan Freeman. Look at Will Smith. Those guys are loved. They're incredible actors and they're very smart and understanding, as well as wealthy and famous.

There is no such thing as "Alpha" or "Not Alpha". Merely "More Alpha" or "Less Alpha." Alphas are leaders, not followers or sexual gurus. Following the idea of hierarchy and trying to make your way to the top because you want people to like you is... following the common desire to be popular. You're seeking approval.

The woman in this article is right. Seeking approval makes you less valuable... but what she doesn't see is that only SHE sees it like this. To see it like this is okay as a woman, but not as a man. Men are to be the leaders and disregard hierarchy, for all will see he is a worthy leader when he has made his way to the top of his personal peak.

Yes, yes and yes. There are 2 great points here:

1) Social charm is definitely something women like and are attracted to, but it's one of many facets that can make you attractive. Seeking approval constantly, on the other hand (which can be a downside to having excellent social skills) is not attractive at all and is a big trap to fall into. Wanna PUA's beware and DJ's beware.

2) We all have different strengths and weaknesses, and can't all be leader of their social group. And that's fine because it's not needed.

It used to bother me that I don't have "excellent" social skills or am funny like a few people I know (these individuals are actually quite rare). But you know what, I've found I have other strengths and have been maximising them with great results. I've got great rhythm, so I learned to dance really well. Now I can dominate dancefloors solo or with a girl to dance with. I'm very athletic so I'm continually improving my body, especially with the summer coming up. I'm in the best shape of my life and will only get better. I like talking to people 1on1 and finding out their passions so in social situations I do that and am happy to stay in the background in group situations.

The result? Well I have not had any problem getting or keeping a girl in a long time and am happier than ever. I feel in control of my destiny, and while I acknowledge my insecurities I don't let them get the better of me.

You don't need to be leader of the pack, just leader of your own world. When girls see your drive and energy they will want to be part of it, simple. Carve out a life for yourself based on what makes you feel good. Then share it with other people so they can feel positive as well :cheer: