so that french chick...

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We went on two pretty good dates. My obvious problem of not being able to really get into amazing conversations with women sort of came out again (as in ones I find interesting or entertaining even). I just can't connect with them. What they care about has no room in my world usually, lol. Anyways, I was still funny to this girl and we did joke around a lot which was kinda enjoyable.

First date (coffee, generic starbucks, last monday): I greet her with a hug. I feel like the talking is noise masking the real intentions. Outside of friendly arm taps and one sort of caress of her arm (lol) I don't start touching her until the very end. I try to initiate deep EC with her and she never does it. Literally, I do not remember the conversation here. So, the only thing that sticks out is that as she was about to leave and we do the parting hug, I'm like "hey" look at her right in the ****ing eye and go in for the kiss. We makeout/grope in the middle of the street with people walking by us in either direction for five minutes and she tells me I'm really fast for an american. She's lovin' it, though. We makeout again in her car and then she has to take off for work. The whole date lasted around 3 hours.

Some ****y as **** texts later...

Second date (following wednesday): She asks me to come watch a movie with her in the library (after seeming like she's gonna flake out on me on my date). There's a tiny bit of kino (arm around shoulder, she leans in a bit, etc), but nothing really. We hold hands walking out (doh, we're both grad students, this isn't middle school anymore). I try to extract her to my place or her place to just **** her, but it turns out she has to meet her girlfriend for coffee, so when we get to my car we once again make out/grope hardcore in the parking lot. This time, though, she's rubbing her ***** on my leg and I'm grabbing her ass rough.

She tells me to stop and moves my hands, but she loves it and squeaks a bit (lol). Then I act a homo and start kissing her face/forehead, rub behind her ears (this is **** I'd do with my ex girlfriend and I did it so much only a few weeks ago that it's like automatic behavior), and while she liked it (she was all "awww, blueline"), it was probably beta like. She's feeling up my back muscles under my shirt (good thing I did some deadlifts before the date!). We have to peel away from each other to leave. I tell her I want to take her home (can't do that, the place was a ****ing mess) and she jokingly tells me she wants to take me home (can't do that, she lives in a family house, no bringing strange guys to uncle's house).

A few sexually charged texts during the weekend where my obvious intent is revealed later...

I try to setup another meetup for saturday but she has to go to boston for a conference...

I try to set something up for monday, but then realize it's retarded last minute and try to switch things

her: i'm at starbucks right now. you still having your meeting? i'll stop by but i can't spend too much time since i have to study.

(meeting up at the political activism thing is retarded, it's a horrible way to pull)

me: (lie) turns out they're going to this rally for [independent guy who's running for congress] in [city far away]. i'll probably stop by starbucks soon to grab some coffee to keep me up while studying tonight [I was planning on flaking on her at this point].

her: mmm everybody is studying tonight! starbucks is too cold!! i went back home.

****. That's like about as direct of an indirect rejection you can get. I deleted her number, and I'm not talking to her unless she initiates. You guys think I have a chance with her still? I made lots of mistakes here, too. I brought up my ex and I also told this girl she's so much of a better kisser than my ex was, and she said something like "don't compare me to your ex!" I'm gonna actively work other girls this week. I'm almost definitely not over my bpd ex. I loved that girl even if I'm embarrassed to admit it. I want to be affectionate with a girl I ****. I want to cuddle with her and all that gay ass ****.

Guess all I can do with this girl is pretend she doesn't exist until she talks to me.
 

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Take it easy

You're doing fine, or at least as well as you can be right now.

What I see as the major problem is that every little thing she does kind of puts you off track or out of your element.

Just take it easy, be cool. You're a grad student either way, so you should be busy with important things.

If you know what mistakes you're making (which I think you do), then just don't make them, and let things go the way they should.

Holla.

PS
Try not to refer to it as "making out."
 

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One last thing

I already said you were aware of what mistakes you were making, and to me, none of them were really worth hammering home again aside from this:

With girls, your personal life is fight club.

Do NOT talk about fight club.
 

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you may have been hasty deleting her number. she said she would pop by, why not let her if its no skin off your nose?
 

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how do you fvck chicks if you deleting their numbers every time they get you upset? don't delete her the ***** is yours basically just go to her place
 

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joe henny said:
how do you fvck chicks if you deleting their numbers every time they get you upset? don't delete her the ***** is yours basically just go to her place

I'm not even sure what the delete was about? For her leaving Starbucks?
 

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Iceberg said:
I'm not even sure what the delete was about? For her leaving Starbucks?
4 words; ROOKIE IN THE GAME
 

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blueline said:
I tell her I want to take her home (can't do that, the place was a ****ing mess) and she jokingly tells me she wants to take me home (can't do that, she lives in a family house, no bringing strange guys to uncle's house).
This is why my place is ALWAYS spotless. I don't care if I plan to have someone over or not. Same principle as a condom, better to have it and not need to use it than need to use it and not have it.

I don't care if it takes me an extra 30 minutes a day to have my place in top shape, but it's saved me so much "embarassment". The last thing I need to have in the back of my mind is "Does my place look like a dump"?

From now on, always have your apartment in top shape and maybe the way you could have told her that you wanted to take her home might have sounded a lot more stern and convincing.



Also, I'll agree with Iceberg. Why did you delete her number? I mean, there's been escalation, but you seem to be a victim of unfortunate circumstances... more than anything.

But please, like Loveshogun said: Do NOT talk about Fight Club.
 

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It was about her basically avoiding me by giving a bull**** reason to leave starbucks. On top of that, she could've hung out with me last weekend, but she didn't. I tried texting her yesterday to get her to come distract me while studying and she didn't respond.

I mean, when a girl wants you, she's gonna respond to almost every text. Especially after getting kinda physical like that. Basically, I deleted her number to keep me from chasing her because that's what my instinct is after basically getting such a clear signal from her. Chasing is super unattractive, though.
 

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blueline said:
It was about her basically avoiding me by giving a bull**** reason to leave starbucks. On top of that, she could've hung out with me last weekend, but she didn't. I tried texting her yesterday to get her to come distract me while studying and she didn't respond.

I mean, when a girl wants you, she's gonna respond to almost every text. Especially after getting kinda physical like that. Basically, I deleted her number to keep me from chasing her because that's what my instinct is after basically getting such a clear signal from her. Chasing is super unattractive, though.
Another thing is that my player (natural that studies PU; looks like a dirty tom cruise) friend got her super attracted to him initially and basically passed her off onto me. Women LOVE this guy. He doesn't even want to compete with me, but he was telling me that he could've kissed her last thursday, which is like "ffffffffff, you're gaming her, buddy." This guy is also on the verge of banging out my ex gf that definitely had a crush on him when we were dating a month ago.

He gets it all. I love him, though. He's my wingman.

I also verbally announced that I give up on the french girl to her friend and that my friend can go in and do what he does. Kissing means jack**** to women, man.

This is the last time I introduce or meet a girl through him, though. He's just too freaking good looking and charismatic.
 

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French girls / women are major players, and most guys are destined never to be in their leagues. Why, because the French basically invented the 'game', and they excel at it.

You don't 'game' a French chick, they game you.... You might think you are, but they are streets ahead of you. If you are lucky to be picked by a Frenchie, just go with the flow. While, they excel at the game, they are 'dirty' superstars in bed.

How do I know, I am married to a French women - she 'gamed' me with the skill, speed and professionalism of lion hunting down its pray. Seriously, we look like a bunch of poor amateurs in compassion to the French.

And my wife is the only women that has f**ked me so much in one night, I walked I like John Wayne for a day. 10 years later I still get 'saddle sore' on a regular basis - French chicks are very comfortable with their sexuality, something most American women will never be.
 

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Betamax said:
French girls / women are major players, and most guys are destined never to be in their leagues. Why, because the French basically invented the 'game', and they excel at it.

You don't 'game' a French chick, they game you.... You might think you are, but they are streets ahead of you. If you are lucky to be picked by a Frenchie, just go with the flow. While, they excel at the game, they are 'dirty' superstars in bed.

How do I know, I am married to a French women - she 'gamed' me with the skill, speed and professionalism of lion hunting down its pray. Seriously, we look like a bunch of poor amateurs in compassion to the French.

And my wife is the only women that has f**ked me so much in one night, I walked I like John Wayne for a day. 10 years later I still get 'saddle sore' on a regular basis - French chicks are very comfortable with their sexuality, something most American women will never be.
thats game

:cool:
 

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dun dun dunnn

taking her for a walk today.

one of the texts last night completely backfired due to using a colloquialism she wasn't familiar with and the entire conversation turned into cheese. i think she loved it, but i didn't. if i get laid, i will be mildly surprised due to how lame that interaction was and how i've made every mistake in the book so far.
 

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**** this chick, man. Two dates in the last week. On the last one, I met a bunch of her friends, they loved me. Unfortunately, this girl Cassie I was working last week was at that party. Most likely feeling threatened when I was talking to a girl hotter than her, Frenchie came up to me and kissed me in front of Cassie who was most likely DTF.

My friend offers to have Frenchie and I come back to his place for a nightcap and she turns it down. After the 4th date and no sex, I ****ing give up on this chick. On top of this, I tried to get Cassie to come out with her friend last night and she texts me back something like "And you and the French girl last night." Frenchie tried to get me to come see her and a bunch of friends at a bar last night, but I decided against it and went to a party with my boys.

I can either completely cut the ties or text her something like this:

Perhaps there's too many cultural differences between us regarding dating for this to not be weird for me. I don't know what you want. I really like you and you've touched me on a deep level. However, I'm helpless before other women and I'll only hurt you and myself. I can't see you anymore. Sorry.

It'll definitely make her upset and she'll either just be upset and accept it or she'll try to 'fix me' by having lots of sex with me.
 

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blueline said:
I can either completely cut the ties or text her something like this:

Perhaps there's too many cultural differences between us regarding dating for this to not be weird for me. I don't know what you want. I really like you and you've touched me on a deep level. However, I'm helpless before other women and I'll only hurt you and myself. I can't see you anymore. Sorry.

It'll definitely make her upset and she'll either just be upset and accept it or she'll try to 'fix me' by having lots of sex with me.
Is there anything sexy about that text? Does that text inspire lots of sexual feelings in you?
 

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Funny. I'm dealing with a French girl too.

Your Frenchie seems MANIPULATIVE. I would drop her. For her to do that is just messed up.

Think about it. She goes and kisses you in front of Cassie, and then she doesnt even have sex with you that night? I mean come on, dude. She's just stringing you along. Are you going to let her do that?

You should be ANGRY with what is happening with this girl. Use your anger to over-power your urge to want to keep hanging out with her. Trust me. You will be happier. Think about all these stupid mind games she's playing! Are you ok with that?
 

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JLW said:
Funny. I'm dealing with a French girl too.

Your Frenchie seems MANIPULATIVE. I would drop her. For her to do that is just messed up.

Think about it. She goes and kisses you in front of Cassie, and then she doesnt even have sex with you that night? I mean come on, dude. She's just stringing you along. Are you going to let her do that?

You should be ANGRY with what is happening with this girl. Use your anger to over-power your urge to want to keep hanging out with her. Trust me. You will be happier. Think about all these stupid mind games she's playing! Are you ok with that?
Eh, I can tell this girl looooves me, but is probably just sexually conservative. She prob wants a relationship and I'm moving too fast. In which case, she can forget about it, lol. I can get MUUUUCH hotter girls than her. And now she knows it after she met my ex. I don't know what draws me to her. Maybe it's the accent and chill attitude? I dunno.

Regardless, though, it's ****ing disrespectful to make out with me in front of a girl I'm working (she was totally DTF and rockin') and then go out for pizza with your French crew instead of come back to my friend's house with me to have a couple shots. **** that.

I deleted her number for the 2nd time and I'll just ignore her unless it's a "come over to my house" text.
 
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