So some women flip out about guns...

[ValleyDJing]

yeah, he's a guy who just picked her up in a bar so he could take her to his house and shoot her. But he decided to stop by Wal-Mart on the way home and leave her in the vehicle. And then when she asked to go home, he quietly acquiesced...

I still say this broad is a loon. This is an indicator of low-interest or mental instability -- both of which you need to stay away from!

Go find a girl who's not an idiot. Guys let women get away with such crap in our country, seriously...

Psst! I've got a secret for you Obsidian...all "broads" are "loons"!

But for the record he was picking up gas, which is slightly more plausible than stopping at Wal*Mart. And after she asks to go home and he agreees, do you think she's suddenly gonna be like, "oh well since you agreed, that must mean you're not really a psycho. We can go back to your place now." Nah man, she's gonna stick with it and maybe he'll get lucky later if he explains the gun to her.

 

[The Forms]

If someone wants to kill you its usually cause of drugs, money or they're a psychopath.

This is the mindset that seperates those who love guns from those who abhor them. Random violence is so rare most people will never see it. People simply don't try to kill you for no reason (yes, it happens every once in a blue moon, but not enough to where a reasonable person would alter how they live their lives based on the chances of it happening to them). People who get killed typically did SOMETHING wrong (not necessarily morally wrong, but conventionally wrong or reckless, like flashing a roll of hundred dollar bills on the street).

People kill for drugs, money or women (or they just hate their wives that much).

I'm just kicking ideas around, and I'm not committed to any of what I'm about to write here (so let's here some rebuttals):

Guns exist for one reason and one reason only: to kill people. This is why people who are scared of guns intrinsically mistrust people who are into guns. No amount of second amendment filibustering will convince someone scared of guns that it makes sense for YOU to have one with you all the time.

They see a guy with a gun and they think any combination of these three things: Either A) you want to kill someone, or B) you're unhinged somehow - you honestly think that the chances of someone randomly messing with you to the point where you need to take their life are great enough that you actually NEED to keep this deadly instrument with you at all times. C) your lifestyle is such that you could reasonably foresee yourself needing to kill someone (be it in self defense or not).

So when a person who does not like guns meets you and learns you have one on you or in your car all the time, they take a step back. They think, right away, "guns are trouble. This guy having a gun doesn't make me feel MORE safe, it makes me feel LESS safe. I don't know WHY he has it, and I don't care. I just don't want to be around it, or him."

So, to come back to what this means to the OP, with these norms running through a girl's head, I can't blame her for getting uncomfortable and wanting out of the situation. She sees the gun and thinks, "I don't care why he has it, I don't want to be around it. Guns are nothing but trouble."

Really, Obsidian, this sounds like the OPPOSITE of mental instability.

 

[mpimpin]

Here's a tip for everyone. Don't pick up women with your gas tank on E!! Have gas in the car and a condom on hand and you don't have to make stops like that which can delay the night and I guess in this case cause it to end.

 

[Bonhomme]

Yeah, if you pack a rod, you should let a date know beforehand.

If it's where she could reach it before you could, she should have no objection.

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Canada has a high gun ownership rate and a very low violent crime rate.

 

[MrS]

I'd say she was PERFECTLY justified over that, anyone calling this girl a stupid ***** is completely missing the point.

 

[Luthor Rex]

first of all.. you keep the gun under your seat.. not in the glove compartment.


secondly.. if she doesn't have the decency to at least ASK WHY you have a gun.. you don't need the stupid b!tch

Somehow I doubt a girl's first reaction will be to think "does he have a permit to carry"? That and she probably wouldn't be up on the gun laws in her state so she would even know if carrying one around in your car (loaded and in reach of the driver I mean) is legal or not.

:nono:

 

[Phyzzle]

Here's a tip for everyone. Don't pick up women with your gas tank on E!! Have gas in the car and a condom on hand

Heh, yeah there's one point everyone missed. If you're going somewhere, know how to get there, know where you're going to park, if it might be packed, get reservations, gas your car up, and save all the mundane errands for when you're engaged.

 

[PeterNorthisawesome]

I don't get how people think guns are evil; it's just a TOOL that people use. We humans survive on intellect and using tools. Sure a spear can be considered a weapon in a civilized country, but in a third-world country it's used as a TOOL for hunting animals. Guns are the same thing; it's not the gun's fault, since it doesn't have a conscious. It's the psychopath/sociopath killers that are giving the gun a bad name. It's unfair to judge someone just because they OWN something, very shallow IMO. What if the person was a hunter, military personnel or cop? And it was their job to use it to protect others. If cops didn't have guns how would they stop criminals or wild animals? People should stop b'tching what they don't understand and mind their own damn business. I'm planning to own a handgun myself, did shotgun/rifle shooting and loved it. I think shooting is a necessary skill to have just in case something bad happens... like terrorists attacking a mall or something. (Tom Clancy)

If I explain to a chick and she still doesn't agree/get it... she's either a brainwashed ignorant hippie or a dumbass. Both a total waste of time. Move on.

 

[BlackJackal]

She probably thought you were gonna pull a "Training Day" on her.

 

[The Forms]

I don't get how people think guns are evil; it's just a TOOL that people use. We humans survive on intellect and using tools. Sure a spear can be considered a weapon in a civilized country, but in a third-world country it's used as a TOOL for hunting animals. Guns are the same thing; it's not the gun's fault, since it doesn't have a conscious. It's the psychopath/sociopath killers that are giving the gun a bad name. It's unfair to judge someone just because they OWN something, very shallow IMO. What if the person was a hunter, military personnel or cop? And it was their job to use it to protect others. If cops didn't have guns how would they stop criminals or wild animals? People should stop b'tching what they don't understand and mind their own damn business. I'm planning to own a handgun myself, did shotgun/rifle shooting and loved it. I think shooting is a necessary skill to have just in case something bad happens... like terrorists attacking a mall or something. (Tom Clancy)

If I explain to a chick and she still doesn't agree/get it... she's either a brainwashed ignorant hippie or a dumbass. Both a total waste of time. Move on.

Sure a gun is a tool, but that's way too simplistic of a view on the issue. Your argument presupposes that all tools are equal (tools are tools). So long as it serves SOME purpose, then it is no more threatening than any other tool. But the purpose of a gun is different than the purpose of a spoon. Guns exist to kill people. Spoons exist to scoop things up. They aren't equal simply by virtue of both of them being tools.

If the guy was a cop or in the military, then this would have come up in conversation by the time he's driving her around, so it would likely lessen the scariness of finding the gun. If you look at my previous post, I listed three things that are likely to run across a person's mind when they see a gun in your car. This would satisfy the third condition; that of your lifestyle being such that you could reasonably foresee needing a gun. If she knows you're a cop, seeing the gun would likely NOT make her feel unsafe.

And c'mon, we judge people based on the things that they own all the time. Many of the things you own have something to say about your personality (however, owning a gun could say many DIFFERENT, sometimes opposite things about your personality).

For instance, owning one of those honda civics with all the body kits and crazy exhaust systems says something about you. Now, it might not necessarily be taken by everyone you meet to mean what you WANT to say by it. Either way, the things we own speak for us at times (albeit not always CLEARLY).

 

[PeterNorthisawesome]

Sure a gun is a tool, but that's way too simplistic of a view on the issue. Your argument presupposes that all tools are equal (tools are tools). So long as it serves SOME purpose, then it is no more threatening than any other tool. But the purpose of a gun is different than the purpose of a spoon. Guns exist to kill people. Spoons exist to scoop things up. They aren't equal simply by virtue of both of them being tools.

If the guy was a cop or in the military, then this would have come up in conversation by the time he's driving her around, so it would likely lessen the scariness of finding the gun. If you look at my previous post, I listed three things that are likely to run across a person's mind when they see a gun in your car. This would satisfy the third condition; that of your lifestyle being such that you could reasonably foresee needing a gun. If she knows you're a cop, seeing the gun would likely NOT make her feel unsafe.

And c'mon, we judge people based on the things that they own all the time. Many of the things you own have something to say about your personality (however, owning a gun could say many DIFFERENT, sometimes opposite things about your personality).

For instance, owning one of those honda civics with all the body kits and crazy exhaust systems says something about you. Now, it might not necessarily be taken by everyone you meet to mean what you WANT to say by it. Either way, the things we own speak for us at times (albeit not always CLEARLY).

You didn't get my point did you? I was arguing that owning a gun and operating it is the person's responsibility and that guns can be good in the right hands. How is viewing a gun as a tool simplistic? Wasn't it made for shooting targets? It is still a tool... criminals who abuse the tool make it a weapon. Go take some law courses. Obviously the chick judged based on the fact that he had a gun. Which is why I think it's stupid to always assume the worst. The guy could have been a cop and if so he could have easily fixed the situation by showing his badge. Maybe the guy is modest or isn't a boring bone-head who likes to talk about his job with every chick he meets, so assuming that THAT TYPE of conversation will come up is retarded.

If you want to argue about that incident...ok... Why the hell would the chick go through someone's personal sh't? Would you want a stranger going through your house? No...Right? So based on that the guy should next her. Secondly the chick assumed that just because the guy had a gun in his car he's bad... obviously anyone with a brain will know that the guy had it for protection from road rage or mugging. If she wasn't sure of the guy's intentions she should have gotten out of the car and asked him.

Judging people without conformation is stupid. What if you were driving a RENTED car? You would never know that and since you failed to talk and ask... you’re stuck with your own prejudice.

 

[James Dupri]

I was reading an autobiograpghy of this guy named Victor Woods (he was a $40 million KingPin), and he said whenever he brought chicks over to his crib, as a joke, he'd have a bunch of $$$ and a loaded Gun on his table, when they walked in. He said if anything, it intrigued him.

I guess it depends your location/type of chicks. He lived in Downtown Chicago...Im guessing your from a small town in the south?

 

[WaterTiger]

I do not fear guns, there are guns in my house and I have been to a firing range and know how to load, unload and fire a weapon. They are no more dangerous than a hammer or a chef's knife.

HOWEVER...

...Unless the guy told me he's an off duty cop, I'm going to have to assume one of the following things:

*He's a criminal
*He's pissed off people who ARE criminals
*He habitually goes somewhere so dangerous he needs a gun
*I'm going to be the "unidentified female gunshot victim" on the 11 o'clock news

I have no idea what his reaction would be if I asked him about the gun and this is also dangerous. I'd probably also develop a headache and ask to be dropped off at the bus stop....cause I sure don't want this guy knowing where I live!

 

[BlakeW5]

That's kind of funny. Because nearly every girl I've told that I have guns begged me to go and take them out shooting. Even the hippiest girl I ever dated wanted me to show her how to use the shotgun. I'm gonna assume that knowing how to use weapons makes them feel more secure.

Really though, everyone knows the map pocket is the place for your strap. :woo:

That's been my experience. I've only met one girl who didn't want to shoot it. She said she didn't like them but had no problem with me having it. Every time a chick finds out I carry a gun you can literally see their eyes light up....humorous really.

Anyway, I always make sure to tell people that get into my that I've got a gun in the glove compartment. I've found it puts them at ease.

 

[Quiksilver]

Leave the gun in your gun cabinet back home. Having it in the glove compartment is a little weird...

If she was really into you she would have rationalized it and tried to move past it, but since she didn't know you too well, seeing a .45 in front of her is a little too much(its a buzzkill!).

Did you at least have the trigger lock on?

Remember some people live sheltered "care-free" lives and don't know about the harsh realities of the real world, and thus can't understand why any law abiding "normal" person would need a gun.

And, until you move in with a girl or something, I wouldn't feel the need to bring it up every time you get a girl back to your place. Keep it a "secret" until they ask or you can tell them with a good notion that they won't run for the hills as soon as you do.

 

[user43770]

Remember some people live sheltered "care-free" lives and don't know about the harsh realities of the real world, and thus can't understand why any law abiding "normal" person would need a gun.

Exactly. People that hate guns are one violent crime away from becoming full-fledged NRA members.

 

[Huffman]

Seriously guys. Perhaps the girl grew up outside of the USA? Because everywhere else in the world, you DO NOT WANT TO BE near people with guns. In a civilized country!

You need guns in your car? To fend off an attack? Where do you live, in a third world ghetto? Or perhaps the mafia is out to get you? Get real. I think you people have seen to many B-Movies.
Why don't you take your guns to bed with you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsV50T5uEyw
Seriously, I'll never get you Americans. The "greatest nation on earth", where life is so dangerous that you need a gun. Talk about hypocrisy.

 

[Luthor Rex]

first of all.. you keep the gun under your seat.. not in the glove compartment.

How do you keep it from sliding around?

 

[user43770]

How do you keep it from sliding around?

Holster.

 

[user43770]

Seriously guys. Perhaps the girl grew up outside of the USA? Because everywhere else in the world, you DO NOT WANT TO BE near people with guns. In a civilized country!

You need guns in your car? To fend off an attack? Where do you live, in a third world ghetto? Or perhaps the mafia is out to get you? Get real. I think you people have seen to many B-Movies.
Why don't you take your guns to bed with you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsV50T5uEyw
Seriously, I'll never get you Americans. The "greatest nation on earth", where life is so dangerous that you need a gun. Talk about hypocrisy.

America: where we have the right to protect ours. What are you gonna do if a couple of burglars break into your house? I'm sure you're going to enjoy waiting five minutes for the police to arrive and save the day.