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But no one has commented on the PHOTO of the woman in question! Is the girl in the OP's first message too fat...or acceptable?
Are you talking about the 20 year old model with the belly roll? I think it's pretty obvious she's an attractive woman, but that's not a very flattering picture of her. Lay her on her back and I bet you wouldn't see the rollWaterTiger said:But no one has commented on the PHOTO of the woman in question! Is the girl in the OP's first message too fat...or acceptable?
She looks weird, not because of her belly, but because her legs are fat and the upper part of her body is slimmed lined, still I wouldn't say no.WaterTiger said:But no one has commented on the PHOTO of the woman in question! Is the girl in the OP's first message too fat...or acceptable?
http://caloriecount.about.com/truth-starvation-mode-ft28742I'm sorry, but no. Absolutely not. This one, you're completely wrong. I don't know why you said this, but you're completely wrong. Let me explain. Firstly, what makes a person gain weight? Your answer should be: when the calories intanken are more than the calories used. And to do so, you normally have to eat a fair amount of food (as in the 3k+ range). And what does eating 3k calories require? A larger appetite. And if there is a food shortage, food will be rationed evenly between all people. This means that less food will be given to each person. So if we can only eat 1.8k worth of a calories a day, then who will it impact the most? The guy eating 2k calories, or the guy eating 3k calories? Your body will have two choices- reduce appetite and weight to survive, or suffer. Fat people will the ones hit the HARDEST by a food shortage, not vice versa.
Alright, that quote is from the article above. Now lets examine this. An average person who eats 3k calories a day will have around 20 pounds of fat on them at least when starvation strikes. Each pound of fat is 3,500 calories. Giving them 70,000 calories to play with. (20*3500=70000). Now when starvation hits their bodies will actually shut down for the most part to preserve energy. UP TO 50%. Which puts their daily needs from 3k to 1,500 calories. Lets say their body will take 200-300 calories of fat to help it survive. (Understand that your body still wants to keep the fat because it is an advantage to have it on). You could live on 1800 calories that way for 233.33333333333 days (70,000/300 = 233.333333333).A starvation diet does not mean the absence of food. It means cutting the total caloric intake to less than 50% of what the body requires.
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Once again, misunderstood. During a food crisis, everyone is not going to get food amounts proportional to how much their daily intake was before the food crisis. They will get a certain amount of food, and that's all. I think an example is appropriate here.Pathgen said:http://caloriecount.about.com/truth-starvation-mode-ft28742
Alright, that quote is from the article above. Now lets examine this. An average person who eats 3k calories a day will have around 20 pounds of fat on them at least when starvation strikes. Each pound of fat is 3,500 calories. Giving them 70,000 calories to play with. (20*3500=70000). Now when starvation hits their bodies will actually shut down for the most part to preserve energy. UP TO 50%. Which puts their daily needs from 3k to 1,500 calories. Lets say their body will take 200-300 calories of fat to help it survive. (Understand that your body still wants to keep the fat because it is an advantage to have it on). You could live on 1800 calories that way for 233.33333333333 days (70,000/300 = 233.333333333).
Now lets take the skinny person. They are eating probably a healthy 1,500 calories a day. When their starvation hits they reduce down to 750. However, if in their day they need to do physical exertion to survive or at all they are going to need to have more energy. However, their isn't any lying around. Instead of having those 233 days as the fat person does, their bodies will start to break apart their muscle for energy.
Your right the fat person spends more energy breathing than a skinny person. However, in times of food crisis fat is an advantage. Otherwise, what is keeping the body from just discarding extra calories as waste and storing it in the first place?
It will take longer for the fat guy to need to break his own body down, which will slow down the process of starvation.
Yes, your metabolism can change over time. Mine pretty much doubled over the course of my middle school years. But you've got it backwards. A high metabolism means that more food is converted into energy, less is stored as fat or exited as waste.Pathgen said:See what i think you misunderstand is that metabolic rates are dynamic. When food becomes scarce peoples metabolic rates will drop. So the 3k person will lower close to the 2k person. However, the 3k person will use more energy because he weighs more and it takes more energy for his body to function.
For a couple of days though you are right the 3k person will lose a larger amount. The metabolic rate will have to have time to lower itself naturally in the absence of food.
There's always this solution.In a real starvation, the skinny guys will eat the fat bastards.
Yeah that's what I was going to say. It isn't some bull**** written by an obese chick trying to convince herself that she is beautiful just how she is. It even says that when the fat crosses over into being a sign of poor health, it is unattractive. I expected the article to be much worse, giving obese people an excuse not to work on their health or image.horaholic said:The article is also giving wight l;oss tips and straight up saying that men dont find fat attractive. Its not as pro-fat chick as it seems.
I don't find Monique attractive by any means, but I've seen her on TV and she seems pretty cool. Anyway, the point is, if being comfortable with her body helped her, a woman, how much more is it going to help a guy?Ganondorf! said:And for men who don't think a female being comfortable with her body make a difference, look at Monique. She's a fat woman and proud of it and has had boyfriends all her life. So it must make some difference
Now THAT'S more cushin for pushin!Ganondorf! said:I think all the brain wiring doesn't play a huge part at all
sure, some men like skinny, some like bigger women, but I think the brain only goes as far as being wired to like women
I like any woman that's sexy, and yes some chicks with a little fat on their bodies can still be sexy. it depends on the fat. Liz Miller too me is by no means fat at all. the stomach roll doesn't mean sh1t to me, I think she's still hot.
And for men who don't think a female being comfortable with her body make a difference, look at Monique. She's a fat woman and proud of it and has had boyfriends all her life. So it must make some difference
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