So much of 'success' is down to complete chance?

[SteR]

I'm sitting around, hungover atm, just pondering on how everything to do with meeting women is so completely down to chance. Does anyone else notice it?

I mean even if you learn the game inside out and become a technical wizard, whether or not you have any success depends on so many external factors such as being in a good mood, having the woman you're talking to being in a good mood, being somewhere at the right time/place (say you miss a bus/train or something by 2 seconds, it could affect whether you meet that 10/10 an hour or so later..). I mean when you really think about it, it's so ridiculously down to chance.

Obviously learning all the material taught on boards like this adjusts your mindset to improve your odds when you do get the chance to talk to girls but an entire relationship opportunity could go down the toilet in a blink of an eye - even if the two people in question were extremely compatible.

Say for instance you were at a bar, saw a cute girl and went up and spoke to her, only for her to tell you to leave her alone because she's not in the mood (because she got a call a few minutes before to let her know her relative died or something). Even if those two people were perfectly compatible, heck, even ideal for eachother, that relationship will never come to fruition due to those particular circumstances.

I realise this is a very odd post to make but it just struck me as weird.. realising how little control I actually have of anything.. :crazy:

Thoughts?

 

[Young Juan]

If you wanna take this route, not dying every time you wake up is an odds games as well. People are always dying from drunk drivers, bad food and medicine epidemics aren't uncommon, there's a militant racist or reverse racist in every ethnic group, etc. You can make your odds better by learning self defense, eating safe foods, etc. but really, you can always get a case of terminal cancer and be dead in a month or so.

Everything is chance. There's a chance that you can go 0/1,000,000 on your pickup approaches. It's unlikely, but not impossible in the same way that someone can go 1,000,000/1,000,000 in pickup approaches. Once again, unlikely, but not impossible.

Only death is certain. Everything else is chance.

 

[Die Hard]

Young Juan,

First, look up the term "Locus of control", find out everything there is to know about it.
Secondly, look up how "Locus of control" relates to "Clinical depression".

After all that, read your own post again.

 

[SPEAK]

I don't know what the hell a locus of control is... but Young Juan hit the nail on the head here. LIFE IS CHANCE dawg... if it wasn't we'd all be millionaires!

 

[Iceberg]

From woman to woman, yeah it's chance. But overall, it's about how hard you work. You don't have total control of any outside factors, but what you can control is how much work you put into accomplishing your goals.

"Chance" seems to accompany hard work.

 

[SteR]

From woman to woman, yeah it's chance. But overall, it's about how hard you work. You don't have total control of any outside factors, but what you can control is how much work you put into accomplishing your goals.

"Chance" seems to accompany hard work.

Well this reminds me of a quote I heard somewhere:

"Success is where preparation meets opportunity".

Ultimately I realise that by reading all this material on the forums/putting it to work etc we increase our chances of success but it still makes me wonder how many good women I may have missed out on just because of random external factors that are out of my control..

(I realise it's pointless dwelling on these things.. just seemed like an interesting point to raise)

 

[nismo-4]

I don't know what the hell a locus of control is... but Young Juan hit the nail on the head here. LIFE IS CHANCE dawg... if it wasn't we'd all be millionaires!

And this board would probably not even exist!

It is luck most of the time. Men chase and women choose. You gotta meet all these damn standards and pass the tests and sh*t. A lot of guys rely on pure luck because they aren't desirable from the get go or just don't know what to do. I spoke to this DAMN SEXY California girl in my Junior year of High School who was 3 years older than me. I was undeniably basic and I was dressed like a British Game Show Host. I got her to go to prom with me AND I f**ked her! I had no idea what the hell I was doing in the convo at all.

10% of the guys do 90% of the f**king. Some guys have all the luck. Some guys have no luck. George Sohini, anyone?

 

[the305]

"Men chase and women choose." this is wrong.

 

[nismo-4]

"Men chase and women choose." this is wrong.

Post # 1,250!

You hardly see women running game on men first. Most men will make moves on women and the woman decides whether or not you qualify. That's because women got so many options of men and men for different things:

1. The basic or ugly mechanic/repairman
2. The best friend
3. The handsome hunk who she sleeps with often
4. The one who beats her and f**ks her
5. The emotional tampon
6. The rich AFC (provider)
7. The chauffeur
8. The attention giver
9. And so on and so forth.

 

[sodbuster]

The harder I work and the more risks I take[within reason]-the luckier I am. Seems to work with anything.Women just arent a high priority right now,so I'm not working hard on them. Growing the office,my income,raising my sons,etc. are ALL more important than women.

That said, IF I didn't know when a woman was giving me the eye,"accidentally brushing against me",etc. I'd never date.

 

[Young Juan]

Young Juan,

First, look up the term "Locus of control", find out everything there is to know about it.
Secondly, look up how "Locus of control" relates to "Clinical depression".

After all that, read your own post again.

I took Psych in high school, I understand "Locus of Control." My post was meant to demonstrate the flaws in the OP's line of thinking. Thanks for thinking of me though

Luck helps those that try to help themselves. You come here and do your best to help yourself/self improvement. Nonetheless, being enlightened is useless if you don't apply. Still, there's still a chance you won't be successful. But honestly? If your really focused on the work you're putting in and your TRULY puting your all into then you don't really have time to think about this type of B.S. as it solely serves as a distraction

ALL YOU CAN DO IS ALL YOU CAN DO, BUT ALL YOU CAN DO IS ENOUGH!!!

Literally, All You Can Do, your best.

 

[JerryFl08]

yea in a way everything does come down to chance...but AFC's don't know how to improve the percentage which is why most of us came here to understand and try an improve the percentage on that chance. Confidence and approaching increases that chance.. because doing nothing at all and just thinking of possibillites well that obviously puts the percentage at 0.