So I meet this girl Fridy night - Part 2.........

[Zunder]

Ok - she doesn't ring last night, she texts:
"Im not the kind of girl to be controlled or manipulated. I never do it to others either. Sorry but your texts came across as exactly that esp from someone I barely know. Im independent and like guys who respect that.
It made me wonder what you would be like when you are with someone. Im not angry at all but bemused at the turn of events. Its a shame but no hard feelings".

So I text back:
"Just give me a crack to put it right. this is no excuse but id gone 3 days without smokes, & had a sh!t day at work so was cranky. Im not perfect but im not an a$$ either. I wont beg but ill aske one more time - have a beer w/me tomrrow night, nothing more nothing less".

Awaiting her reply.

Thinking about it, I really dont give a sh!t now. I suspect she still has gina tingels for me...but is on this "independent woman" crusade cr@p. Judging a woman by her deeds not words - what she needs is for me to bend her over and fock the living sh!t out of her - thats what I think whenever I hear a woman come on with this "independent woman" waffle.
She is cute, but not close to a stunning vogue cover model.

Yes I did c0ck up a bit by getting sh!tty that she would put her friend before a date with me, but stuff her - I am the prize and she misses out. Thats is going to be my mentality anyway. There are three billion other chicks in the world.

I have learnt a bit - but sounds like she might be more trouble than she is worth anyway.

Any devolpments and I will keep you all posted.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

Dude, you met her LAST week and your making DEMANDS that she change her previous lifestyle FOR YOU. And you haven't even had sex with her yet.

I could totally understand if you banged her and made her *** in multiples of 10 (at least she would seriously consider doing things your way) but you're not in deep enough to be saying that sh!t. Demanding like that when you don't even know her makes you look like a d1ck. Not even a c0cky d1ck with redeemable qualities. Who wants to be around that?

Give your prospect some room to breath next time.

 

[Zunder]

Dude, you met her LAST week and your making DEMANDS that she change her previous lifestyle FOR YOU. And you haven't even had sex with her yet.

I could totally understand if you banged her and made her *** in multiples of 10 (at least she would seriously consider doing things your way) but you're not in deep enough to be saying that sh!t. Demanding like that when you don't even know her makes you look like a d1ck. Not even a c0cky d1ck with redeemable qualities. Who wants to be around that?

Give your prospect some room to breath next time.

Well she text back saying "No, Sorry" for my request to take her out and make it right.

So that the end of that.

Lesson learnt. One mistake is all it takes. Mind you if she cant accept an apology....

 

[cordoncordon]

Well she text back saying "No, Sorry" for my request to take her out and make it right.

So that the end of that.

Lesson learnt. One mistake is all it takes. Mind you if she cant accept an apology....

Consider it a lesson learned. To be honest, I really can't blame her for turning you down. I probably would have done the same, thinking you were some controlling whacko.

Plenty of others out there though.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

Well to be fair you set the precedent for being demanding and controlling. It's hard to get past that even with an apology present. Would you be so forgiving if the roles were reversed?

Just be a little easier going next time around. Who knows? You probably dodged a bullet.

 

[Bluntmaster]

Text her back

"You MUST go out with me you have no choice!"

It would be funny as hell.

 

[Warrior74]

So I text back:
"Just give me a crack to put it right. this is no excuse but id gone 3 days without smokes, & had a sh!t day at work so was cranky. Im not perfect but im not an a$$ either. I wont beg but ill aske one more time - have a beer w/me tomrrow night, nothing more nothing less".

This is why texting sucks. I read this in a pleading whiny voice. I don't know your tone, your demeanor, anything. Just as text on the screen it has not emotional context. If I already think you are a weak person or I'm angry at you, how would I read this? In a strong upbeat happy voice?


Btw her response was less than stellar. I wouldnt have even replied to it. I think you came off as begging.

 

[Zunder]

This is why texting sucks. I read this in a pleading whiny voice. I don't know your tone, your demeanor, anything. Just as text on the screen it has not emotional context. If I already think you are a weak person or I'm angry at you, how would I read this? In a strong upbeat happy voice?


Btw her response was less than stellar. I wouldnt have even replied to it. I think you came off as begging.

Yes point taken about texting - but wasnt begging.

I WOULD accept someones apology and give them a 2nd chance.
It is not like I ran over her cat or p!ssed on her carpet.

And blows to hoes I would cancel some meeting with a mate to see a chick if I fancied her.

But yeah - I am a thinking like a bloke. Not that alien species called women. Fuk them and their yenta frineds. When they are fat, 40 and have no one, they can remember all the blokes the rejected because of some slight fvckup he may have made.

I still know I did wrong - but fvck it, I am moving on.

 

[cordoncordon]

Text her back

"You MUST go out with me you have no choice!"

It would be funny as hell.

I admit, I chuckled at this. Would be really funny. MNIN with a joke I actually liked! Actually Zunder, if you sent that and then sent a smiley face right after? She actually might think it was cute/funny and she might actually go out with you. Worth a shot....if you are still interested.

Could it be? Could the seemingly impossible actually be happening??? MNIN actually is becoming.....sane? And not a hopeless afc??? Are cats and dogs living together???

 

[yuppaz]

Think it boils down to you building your social life and inner game. If you had more experience with scheduling, knowing whats socially ok and what's not based on some experience yourself (aka maybe you have plans to hang with a good bud and have 4 plates, one tries to setup a time w/ u on a day your hanging with your good friend, you would respond the same way she did, by simply unemotionally finding a better day). I will come with time, resign yourself to the fact that people have busy lives, (soon you will too with all the girls your hanging with) so scheduling is sometimes an issue. You shouldn't have to give up what you have planned for her and she shouldn't have to either. Know that it isn't a reflection on you or your relationship with the girl in any way if she can't make a certain date. Also your only sweating this one because you don't have enough options, options are easy to get.... Get yourself feeling great, looking great and start having conversations with women you find attractive. Get the number and call them, spin spin spin & keep it positive, assume she's into you.

 

[jophil28]

I still know I did wrong - but fvck it, I am moving on.

Zunder, what you said in your original "demanding " text was probably appropriate if she had been in an LTR with you for several months and was planning a GNO to replace a date night which you had arranged with her.... even then it might have been damaging because the 'tone' of your text was overbearing, and revealed a short tempered, needy element to your personality.

However in your present circumstances it was way out of context with the connection that you had built (or not built) so far. You had known her LESS than a week .

YOU might have felt a strong attraction to her but believe me, to her you were still a "suspect" after one date. Her cutesy reactions towards you on the date did not guarantee that her vagina switch was flipped to HIGH yet.
Women take way longer to ALLOW themselves to relax with a new guy before they will drop their guard. IN the meantime, many women actively seek reasons NOT to continue seeing a new guy - they are looking for a scorpion under the rock - you gave her exactly that.

Women's attraction knob likes so be "dialled up " SLOWLY..thats why DocLove writes about going VERY slow.

IN the end, she cut you off because she had very little invested in you and therefore little to lose by ejecting.

I swear, the first six weeks of dating a new woman can be nerve wracking- thay have all those friends and previously arranged 'plans' that keep getting in the way.

The trick is to go slow and plow through it all - if she is still giggling and getting naked with you after a few weeks of these G/f dramas then you WIN because she wants to be with you.

Now head out Friday night and get some #'s .

Good luck, Kiwi.

 

[Joe Stud]

Text her back

"You MUST go out with me you have no choice!"

It would be funny as hell.

I like this! <rep>


tell her: "i'm not askin you... i'm TELLIN you"!

 

[Zunder]

Zunder, what you said in your original "demanding " text was probably appropriate if she had been in an LTR with you for several months and was planning a GNO to replace a date night which you had arranged with her.... even then it might have been damaging because the 'tone' of your text was overbearing, and revealed a short tempered, needy element to your personality.

However in your present circumstances it was way out of context with the connection that you had built (or not built) so far. You had known her LESS than a week .

YOU might have felt a strong attraction to her but believe me, to her you were still a "suspect" after one date. Her cutesy reactions towards you on the date did not guarantee that her vagina switch was flipped to HIGH yet.
Women take way longer to ALLOW themselves to relax with a new guy before they will drop their guard. IN the meantime, many women actively seek reasons NOT to continue seeing a new guy - they are looking for a scorpion under the rock - you gave her exactly that.

Women's attraction knob likes so be "dialled up " SLOWLY..thats why DocLove writes about going VERY slow.

IN the end, she cut you off because she had very little invested in you and therefore little to lose by ejecting.

I swear, the first six weeks of dating a new woman can be nerve wracking- thay have all those friends and previously arranged 'plans' that keep getting in the way.

The trick is to go slow and plow through it all - if she is still giggling and getting naked with you after a few weeks of these G/f dramas then you WIN because she wants to be with you.

Now head out Friday night and get some #'s .

Good luck, Kiwi.

Actually Im out tonight for a couple with a mate.
Downtown Auckland waterfront.
Got to watch it. Missed a few Fridays at work lately and boss not too happy.

I note what you say about the slow sh!t, and you are right jope.
My cok thinks otherwise, but my mind knows you are right.

 

[Kailex]

I WOULD accept someones apology and give them a 2nd chance.
It is not like I ran over her cat or p!ssed on her carpet.

But WOULD you? Would you REALLY give her a second chance?

Let's see you met her last week and you already bought tickets to hit up a sports game with your best friend. Let's say she wants to go out with you THAT same night, even though it's been planned for and paid for and all set.

If she had texted you the VERY same thing you did... having only met for a few days... wouldn't you think that she's setting a very unfair precedent for a future relationship? Wouldn't you think she's being demanding, or are you REALLY telling me that you'd cancel this previous engagement for a new person in your life?

And blows to hoes I would cancel some meeting with a mate to see a chick if I fancied her.

Just rethink this.
You set a very unfortunate tone in that "relationship" with just ONE text. To you, it was a simple text. To her, it was an utter display of massive insecurity. Specially if she is one of those "independent women" types.

It just seems here like for the space of a few texts, she was the male and you were the female.

I still know I did wrong - but fvck it, I am moving on.

Good deal, my friend.

I swear, the first six weeks of dating a new woman can be nerve wracking- thay have all those friends and previously arranged 'plans' that keep getting in the way.

The trick is to go slow and plow through it all - if she is still giggling and getting naked with you after a few weeks of these G/f dramas then you WIN because she wants to be with you

Funny you say this.
Ever notice that after that first two months, all of a sudden they REALLY aren't as busy as they said they were? All of those activities that they were supposedly doing were just nights they really spent at home watching TV or washing their hair.

I've caught quite a few women on this.
Where'd the friends go?

 

[K-man]

Funny you say this.
Ever notice that after that first two months, all of a sudden they REALLY aren't as busy as they said they were? All of those activities that they were supposedly doing were just nights they really spent at home watching TV or washing their hair.

I've caught quite a few women on this.
Where'd the friends go?

Oh man that's so true!
They all turn out to be couch potatoes who you have to drag out of the house!

 

[amoka]

Text her back

"You MUST go out with me you have no choice!"

It would be funny as hell.

Do this for the goodness of the forum. You have nothing to loose anyway.

 

[Captain]

Read THIS:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=176859
It explains exactly what you've done wrong; you're calling this girl out on her behaviour when she is not invested enough in you to care what you think, add to that there was nothing wrong with her behaviour.

 

[Zunder]

Read THIS:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=176859
It explains exactly what you've done wrong; you're calling this girl out on her behaviour when she is not invested enough in you to care what you think, add to that there was nothing wrong with her behaviour.

Some GOOD SH!T in that thread, Captain.
Thankyou.