So i am thinking of buying another car

[Livinlifehard]

I have always loved cars, and i hate to say it (always against it) but i am going to get a fast car as my primary car... I have had all types of cars ranging from a H22 integra to a BUILT 400 sbc 86 rx7 (i do have pics if no one belives me). so i know what fast is... no not drag fast but i do have the correct sence if something is as fast as it should be. so i am thinking of 3-4 cars so far. BTW i am going for looks also. i am just wanting opinions

1. 350z (new) i dont know if the HP changed over time or what the 1/4 time is. looks are ok
2. 06 GTO (LS2) i LOVE the way they look with inteior, just real slow on bottom end... i heard there good highway cars
3. 03 trans am (LS1) i like the way they look, and there real quick... and cheaper. I dont know how quick they still are because i havent been in one for a while....
4. 03 cobra.. i am not going to get a new one, and i know for a fact that they are ****ing fast (not a ford fan... but i love cobras).

My mom drives a evo 8 and i like them but i dont want one or a sti as my main car, i want something with Rear wheel drive because i think those are more fun... and if i want to drive a AWD car i will just take my moms out.

Do you guys have any other car suggestions? I was looking at GNs but i dont like the body style that much... and i DONT want a ****ing rotory... break to much. anyways hit me back.

 

[organizedconfusion]

trans ams are bad azz,get the LS1 or don't get one at all!
the cobras are pretty sick as well. my next car is going to be an 05 STI or an Evo MR.

 

[Bible_Belt]

The 350z is almost as fast as the 90's twin turbo 300zx, but Nissan did it by increasing the internal compression at the factory. That means that there is less room to improve the car with modifications, at least compared to the Z32 300ZXs. I just bought a 91 300zx, I'm having an LT1 V8 from a 94 Camaro z28 put into it. I've been shopping for upgrades on that engine, and with just some premium aluminum ported heads and the hotcam I have now, as well as a throttle body intake and some other minor stuff, the car should put down over 400 hp at the wheel, and almost 500 at the crank. The low-end torque on that chevy engine is impressive as well.

Other go-fast mods besides a better cam and head would include Nitrous, Turbochargers, and Superchargers. Nitrous is cheap to install, but you have to keep filling the stupid bottle. The rule of thumb for nitrous is that is burns about a pound to make 100hp for one second. Stock engines can usually take a 100hp shot without problems. I think it is only suited for the drag strip, though, too expensive to refill. That Cobra you like is supercharged from the factory. A supercharger is also known as a blower. It forces air into the motor like a turbo, but a supercharger runs off a pulley and belt. The power is there to use right off the line, unlike turbos which lag. But apart from the $3-5k cost of superchargers, the other disadvantage is that their efficiency is less than perfect. They might use 10-15% of the hp they generate to turn the pulley to run the aftercharger itself. Turbochargers are a recycling of waste gases out of the engine. This is very efficient, but they tend to not kick in until higher rpms, creating a 'turbo lag' off the line. There is usually more power available through turbocharging, but most people are not building 800-1000 hp cars, so that is rarely an issue. Turbos are expensive like superchargers; they often involve complex plumbing; and they run very hot and tend to burn out often.

Here are a few links I have been looking at for my LT1 engine:

http://www.eportworks.com/Products.htm

http://www.turbo-kits.com/lt1_camaro_turbo_kits.html

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/products/systems/

http://www.bankspower.com/twin-turbo-products.cfm

 

[Livinlifehard]

The 350z is almost as fast as the 90's twin turbo 300zx, but Nissan did it by increasing the internal compression at the factory. That means that there is less room to improve the car with modifications, at least compared to the Z32 300ZXs. I just bought a 91 300zx, I'm having an LT1 V8 from a 94 Camaro z28 put into it. I've been shopping for upgrades on that engine, and with just some premium aluminum ported heads and the hotcam I have now, as well as a throttle body intake and some other minor stuff, the car should put down over 400 hp at the wheel, and almost 500 at the crank. The low-end torque on that chevy engine is impressive as well.

Other go-fast mods besides a better cam and head would include Nitrous, Turbochargers, and Superchargers. Nitrous is cheap to install, but you have to keep filling the stupid bottle. The rule of thumb for nitrous is that is burns about a pound to make 100hp for one second. Stock engines can usually take a 100hp shot without problems. I think it is only suited for the drag strip, though, too expensive to refill. That Cobra you like is supercharged from the factory. A supercharger is also known as a blower. It forces air into the motor like a turbo, but a supercharger runs off a pulley and belt. The power is there to use right off the line, unlike turbos which lag. But apart from the $3-5k cost of superchargers, the other disadvantage is that their efficiency is less than perfect. They might use 10-15% of the hp they generate to turn the pulley to run the aftercharger itself. Turbochargers are a recycling of waste gases out of the engine. This is very efficient, but they tend to not kick in until higher rpms, creating a 'turbo lag' off the line. There is usually more power available through turbocharging, but most people are not building 800-1000 hp cars, so that is rarely an issue. Turbos are expensive like superchargers; they often involve complex plumbing; and they run very hot and tend to burn out often.

Here are a few links I have been looking at for my LT1 engine:

http://www.eportworks.com/Products.htm

http://www.turbo-kits.com/lt1_camaro_turbo_kits.html

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/products/systems/

http://www.bankspower.com/twin-turbo-products.cfm

I appreciate the info... i am not being mean but i do know a little about cars though . anyways i know you can increase the boost and i think the 03 cobra is the easyest to make faster. i wouldnt get a trans am without a ls1 in it eaither, that would be nuts if i did. You should take a look at ls1's now that the ls2s came out because they might have gone down in price a bit. MAN i wish i didnt have to sell my old rx7 to come down here to vegas, that ride was so fun, and it reved HIGH for a 400... i put it up to 6k a lot and now problems (but minor carb problems). anyways i am going to check prices and such... i think the 350 might be funner car because of the size is smaller and might be fun on curves... just like the gto i think is a 50 50 ratio on weight distrabuition.

 

[Bible_Belt]

OK, I am just learning, as you can tell.

I have heard the GTO is a fun daily driver. Nissan has created a concept car 450z, and I think many Z enthusiasts are waiting to see if they will bring to production either a 350 twin turbo or the rumored 450z supercharged Infiniti V8 with possible all-wheel drive.

I bought the wrecked Camaro with the LT1 for only two grand, and I will probably make more than that selling the other Camaro parts and old twin turbo engine out of the Nissan, so the engine and transmission cost me next to nothing. The LS1 is a superior engine, I agree, but they are still out of my price range.

 

[Skilla_Staz]

Wanna buy me one while you're at it?

 

[Livinlifehard]

i test drove a gto and i loved the back seat space, it has racing seats back there too.... there just big... i like smaller cars for traffic and getting around easyer.

 

[organizedconfusion]

the 350Zs are slugs.my friend has a stage 3 SRT-4 with bolt ons with 350ish to the wheels and he eats those alive for fun.The only real way the 350Z can be fast is either with a supercharger or twin turbo set up.The LS1s and the cobra are your best bet if you want aggressive looks and massive building potential.they just look friggin menacing,the cobras are sick as well..all black & stealthed out.the new GTOs are pretty sick as well,with some bolt ons they can run pretty decent times (mid 12s in the 1/4); thats actually the new GT500 numbers just FYI..but have fun trying to catch him on the freeway.

what did your RX-7 run in the 1/4?

 

[organizedconfusion]

i am going to regret it but i always wanted another third gen RX-7,the other one i had was used and had soo many problems.During restoration, i came across soo many problems that i had to scrap the entire plan.Fun car and looks beautyfull but boy did it have problems! i should've kept it and stuffed a big V-8 in there,maybe an LS1?! that would be sweeet!! but then i'd have to reinforce the rear end,the suspension and everything else to support all the torque ripping through the chassis like that.too bad the RX-8s are such waiffers though,they look pretty decent and all..but man talk about lack of any real grunt.

 

[Livinlifehard]

i am going to regret it but i always wanted another third gen RX-7,the other one i had was used and had soo many problems.During restoration, i came across soo many problems that i had to scrap the entire plan.Fun car and looks beautyfull but boy did it have problems! i should've kept it and stuffed a big V-8 in there,maybe an LS1?! that would be sweeet!! but then i'd have to reinforce the rear end,the suspension and everything else to support all the torque ripping through the chassis like that.too bad the RX-8s are such waiffers though,they look pretty decent and all..but man talk about lack of any real grunt.

Actually my old rx7 held up REAL nice, and the weight distrabution thing is a big misconseption about it... see the thing it... Yes your puting in a biger volume motor, BUT the cylinders are so large to where it almost weighs the same because the rotory IS smaller, but its such a small liter engine. I dont know if you disagree with me, but i have had one and it didnt effect the handling or anything. I did buy a T2 rear end which most people used in them (LSD and high duriblity without going to a 9' rear end). i never had a problem with it..... they are EXTRAMLY ****ing fun cars hear is the reason why. Those cars are built light, and they dont expect you to actually have the tq of a v8 back there because turbos give you boost after your done burning out. so when you put that much power at 2k rpms its NUTS, i have actually started pealing out when i hit 3rd (i had a 3speed tranny with OD); that was SOOOO ****ing scary because you were going fast and then sideways fast... almost hit a ditch. I would buy one already built though, you will never get out what you put into it, AND i would buy a 86 rx7, because you will probley wreak it lol.

P.S i forgot to add that i never took it to the track, because i had NO trailer and it was a race car and would over heat fast (i had a HUGE radiator on it too)... and had normal race car problems. but i did race it on the street (like take my tibberon out, then see if people wanted to race, if so go back and get my car and meet up with them). i seriously beat a car that ran mid 11s... but it was a close race... for some reason i got AWSOME launches if i did it right, that lsd worked like a champ.... but if i did it to had then i was looking at the curb lol.

anyways 350s seemed fun for taking corners and small so i could handle them threw traffic... i am not looking for the fastest of the fast, i am looking for fun to drive. but really its down to the GTO or 350z. i dont know, we will see... i am giving it time.

 

[rrrrr]

You may want to check out the new dodge challenger they are going to be available in 2008.

http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger.html
it is expected to have the hemi, and make 425 horsepower.

They are also going to make the Camaro in 2008.

If it were between a GTO and Nissan 350, i'd probably get a 350 if it had better quality ratings in consumer reports. i know i sound like an old man, but who cares if your car goes 0-60 in 5.1 seconds instead of 5.6 seconds or whatever it is. you need it to get you to work and not have bills for broken parts. The good thing about the GTO is it is bigger and can fit more stuff in it. Every time I see a GTO, it looks kinda funny to me, because the wheels and tires are tiny compared to the size of the car, it looks disproportionate. I don't like them for that reason.

I don't know if i would get a GN. Are you talking about the Buick GN? Those things are like 20 years old. you could get one with low mileage but it's still an old car.

I would definitely get a new car if i could afford it, compared to an older car that may be faster. I know the 350 chevy camaro and pontiac firebird ws6 they were making a few years back, were just as fast as mustang cobras even though they cost less, but i don't feel like buying cars that will need repairs that much sooner.

The new Mustang GTs are nice to me as well.

 

[organizedconfusion]

i don't know if you are a fan of the new turbo charged sedans,but have you test driven the new WRX STIs or EVO IX MRs? they are extremly fast and fun cars for their pricerange and with little money into mods they become real quick(like mid-low 12s quick) four doors,turbo charged,variable valve timing,All wheel drive ,supercar handling and specs (0-60 4.3 sec)six speed close gear ratio and 13s right out of the box. don't know if you are a fan of the boy racer look though,because both come with extreme size wings and aggressive facias...but then again they are the fastest cars out there right now you can get without having to spend $100k.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Those two cars are sweet. AF has a plain Lancer, and he dreams about the evo.

Do new cars with turbo come with a built-in turbo timer? The old 300zx twin turbo needs an aftermarket timer or at least to be idled for a few minutes before shutting it off after the turbos have been used, or else the turbos need replacement much more quickly. Did new cars find a way to fix this problem?

 

[organizedconfusion]

Those two cars are sweet. AF has a plain Lancer, and he dreams about the evo.

Do new cars with turbo come with a built-in turbo timer? The old 300zx twin turbo needs an aftermarket timer or at least to be idled for a few minutes before shutting it off after the turbos have been used, or else the turbos need replacement much more quickly. Did new cars find a way to fix this problem?

ironicly not,but they are only like $100 or so for them.For some reason some turboed cars still don't come with boost gauges either .

those EVOs can be made really nasty fast,
here a vid of it's potential..note,not the average run of the mill evo..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os7eKSAq-Y8

 

[Bible_Belt]

Damn, 30 psi of boost? I wonder if he is using water injection to cool it? Most engines can't handle that much boost. I would imagine that his engine life is drastically reduced due to the high boost?

Here is a 1000whp evo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL-htvHuITk&mode=related&search=

 

[organizedconfusion]

Damn, 30 psi of boost? I wonder if he is using water injection to cool it? Most engines can't handle that much boost. I would imagine that his engine life is drastically reduced due to the high boost?

Here is a 1000whp evo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL-htvHuITk&mode=related&search=

lol
drasticly is an understatement,but than again..they aren't really your average everyday drivers that car is built to say the least :yes:
for me personally, 350-400 awdhp and i am set :woo:

 

[Livinlifehard]

like i said above my mom owns a evo 8... some rally stuff done to it because thats what she does. there nice, but feel like a mercadyes... unconforatble as hell, plus i want something more sleek...

If i want to drive a rally car i will just take mine out, its a thrill though beause the turbo is big (twin scroll too) so it takes a bit for the boost to kick in, but when it does of **** you notice.... i want something i can fishtail a bit, and a non turbo car, turbo cars are kinda annoying to me... i dont have anything against them but i hate waiting for them to warm up or cool down. i am not looking for the fastest car out there, just funnest to drive... i wish rx7s had normal motors in them, my old 86 was so ****ing small.

 

[blinkwatt]

those EVOs can be made really nasty fast,
here a vid of it's potential..note,not the average run of the mill evo..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os7eKSAq-Y8

Holy smokes.....Let's be realistic though,at 30PSI that thing is sure to blow something soon. I had a friend who ran his M3 at 22PSI and blew the engine in a month racing like that. That's basically like runing it on NOS none-stop.

 

[Livinlifehard]

acctually i belive that the stock psi is up there like 28psi.... something real high. thats what it is on a evo 08 i belive.... but it sucks after 3rd gear

 

[Derek Flint]

I have always loved cars, and i hate to say it (always against it) but i am going to get a fast car as my primary car... I have had all types of cars ranging from a H22 integra to a BUILT 400 sbc 86 rx7 (i do have pics if no one belives me). so i know what fast is... no not drag fast but i do have the correct sence if something is as fast as it should be. so i am thinking of 3-4 cars so far. BTW i am going for looks also. i am just wanting opinions

1. 350z (new) i dont know if the HP changed over time or what the 1/4 time is. looks are ok
2. 06 GTO (LS2) i LOVE the way they look with inteior, just real slow on bottom end... i heard there good highway cars
3. 03 trans am (LS1) i like the way they look, and there real quick... and cheaper. I dont know how quick they still are because i havent been in one for a while....
4. 03 cobra.. i am not going to get a new one, and i know for a fact that they are ****ing fast (not a ford fan... but i love cobras).

My mom drives a evo 8 and i like them but i dont want one or a sti as my main car, i want something with Rear wheel drive because i think those are more fun... and if i want to drive a AWD car i will just take my moms out.

Do you guys have any other car suggestions? I was looking at GNs but i dont like the body style that much... and i DONT want a ****ing rotory... break to much. anyways hit me back.

Option 1: Not much performance bang for the buck compared to other like-priced cars.

Option 2: Good bang for the buck car.

Option 3: Probably your best all-around choice.

Option 4: Fast, but heavy and sloppy handling. Are they still using solid-rear axles?