So how does the whole "lay" process go?

[TheBaconator]

Getting laid isn't comparable to being a Gold Medal swimmer, if you can pick up any girl that you want at any time and get laid with her, then that's Gold Medal material (assuming your looks is accounting for 30% or less of your game, I think people like stand who have a 95% looks game disqualified) However, getting laid with any skank because you are desperate to stick it into something hardly qualifies for Bronze or even a prize, you are just getting your feet wet. So before you compare apples to oranges, this is what we are talking about is getting the feet wet.

However, I'm not interested in getting my feet wet because my religious (moral standard was tested before and was not breached) standards, I may as well be a religious asexual, but that doesn't make me stupid on a few very basic facts.

You know what, this is the bottom line truth here. Unless you are like stand, who brags that random women throws themselve on to him since he has killer looks and gets instant fvcks, I don't think it's possible to get an instant attraction like that. But if you ask girls directly for sex, that saves time, because you cut all the BS out, they either say yes, or they say no and whatever reaction they may have and you go your marry way. No worrying about numbers, dates, what she is thinking. But you ask in a diplomatic way --- you dont ask a girl if she wants to fvck, you may say to someone you have rapport with "Would you like to have some fun?"

LMFAO, dude I read some of your old posts and you are a funny case. You are 30 something, live with your folks and still a virgin, and you use your dad as your wing. Yet all of a sudden your this big stud who can get laid but just "chooses not to". It's rather hilarious. However, the main point is you have no clue about what your talking about and you are the last person anyone on here should take advice on about how to get laid.

 

[snowdog]

That last post was f*cking funny.

 

[MooseGod]

Don't expect an outcome. This will put you above at least 90% of the competition.

You've got to seduce a chick slowly--most have this mental rule about not giving it up on the first "date." Make her forget this is the first "date" or whatever. If you establish a good connection, have fun with her, tease her, basically act like you've known her forever and are completely comfortable around her, then it's easy. Slowly work your way up to kissing her (gotta have the right kind of opening, unless you just feel like grabbing her and kissing her, but usually the first one just has to "happen."

I don't really know how to explain it, but she can't feel like she's being pressured into anything. It's your job to make her feel like she simply CAN'T resist your charms. She won't feel like a slut if she is with the most charming dude she ever met. You've got to make her feel this, and usually it just depends on who you "click" with.

Maybe that's the problem with this forum--a lot of you fellas are trying to figure out how to bed every girl you come across, when in fact you should just be yourself and get involved with girls that like you for YOU. Then, you can just be yourself, do what you do, and it's waaaay easier all around.


...and Skywalker: never straight up ask a girl for sex. Even if she liked you before, chances are she's going to avoid you like the plague from then on. You've got to tell her you're going to sex her up with your actions. Actual spoken words are just superficial and give her an ostensible reason for hanging out with you.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

. Yet all of a sudden your this big stud who can get laid but just "chooses not to".

Who said you have to be a big stud in order to get laid? You look for something hard enough, then you find it. Simple as that. But I'm not going to waste time to test boundaries again. They were tested in the past. I choose not to get laid on a given test-date zone (i.e. Nov/06) when there was an opportunity to do so multiplied by potentially four or five, no need to re-test.
There was allot of work involved in finding a connection and motivation to do so (i.e. negative energies towards an unrequited limerance object, thought of getting even with her by losing my virginity). I always make symbolic references to Nov/06 when referring to my choice of not getting laid since I'm not officially pursuing it as of Nov 29/06.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

...and Skywalker: never straight up ask a girl for sex. Even if she liked you before, chances are she's going to avoid you like the plague from then on. You've got to tell her you're going to sex her up with your actions. Actual spoken words are just superficial and give her an ostensible reason for hanging out with you.

Asking someone if they want to have fun is ambigious and really can mean anything. Heard it in the movies, and a female friend also questioned the fact that I didn't ask her if she wanted to have 'fun' -- that's where I first heard this term used for that context and think it's a cool way of expressing sexual interest.

I didn't say ask anyone straight up for sex...you ask someone if they want to have some fun that you have a bit of rapport or connection with, and they can interpret that to mean anything they want it to mean.

 

[ezily]

OK, Luke clearly has no idea how to get laid. I mean this is getting funny. Asking a girl if she wants to have fun? :crackup: Are you kidding me? She'll look at you, laugh, and then walk away telling all her friends how much of a creep you are. If you want to get laid, go to a bar and pick up someone there. You'll find a girl eventually.

Luke, having morals is good (I have them too), but you're going to have to face up to reality some day. You need to move out of your house and try and get into a relationship with some girl. Most women in today's world will think you're not interested if you don't try for sex eventually. They'll get bored and move on. Stop putting girls on some pedestal. Sure there are plenty of virgins out there, but most are girls no one wants. Having sex won't make you a bad person and God won't damn you automatically. I've talked to many religious leaders and they think people today put too much emphasis on sexual sins. Some things are bad, yes. But sex with a girl is not as bad as you think (mainly because you could do far far worse things). From what I've learned, it's best to be a good person. If you want a girl with no sex involved, you better start going to Christian dating sites or something. I assume a girl had had sex unless I find out otherwise.

 

[TheBaconator]

Luke, just stop man. You are pathetic and like eazily said one day you will need to face reality. You chose not to get laid in Nov 06? LMFAO, what was holding you back for the rest of your life? Also, you seem to have selective memory, cuz looking at your threads I found this little doozie:

Quest to get laid by Feb 3rd, 2009, dated 5/3/07.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=122967

In another thread you go off on how your parents got mad at you and tried to help you out because you told them you like to wack it all the time. You might as well trade your c*ck in because that sh*t is worthless.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=139601

 

[Luke Skywalker]

OK, Luke clearly has no idea how to get laid. I mean this is getting funny. Asking a girl if she wants to have fun? :crackup: Are you kidding me? She'll look at you, laugh, and then walk away telling all her friends how much of a creep you are. If you want to get laid, go to a bar and pick up someone there. You'll find a girl eventually.

But that still doesn't address two points:

1) Why would a girl do that if she if there is a rapport or there is some connection already? (one of the preconditions I stated)

2) The concept of fun is too ambigious to be interpreted to mean sex. Hooking-up and hanging-out is also ambigious. It could just mean enjoying each other's company at an amusement park, or walking around a mall, etc....

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Luke, just stop man. You are pathetic and like eazily said one day you will need to face reality. You chose not to get laid in Nov 06? LMFAO, what was holding you back for the rest of your life?

Just not interested in that type of scene. I'm looking for a born-again Christian girl, if I am looking for anything at all.

Also, you seem to have selective memory, cuz looking at your threads I found this little doozie:

Quest to get laid by Feb 3rd, 2009, dated 5/3/07.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=122967

When I wrote that thread I was dating a Christian girl but wasn't sure where it was going, and felt I didn't have any other options. Ironically, I have nobody right now and I'm not writing any pity-party threads like that.

That thread was a very half-hearted thread that didn't mean anything. If you read a thread where there was an actual mission to get laid before the end of the month, then you can read the "Adult internet ad" thread. If you go on that one, the tone is allot different. That thread is a blog of the November/06 direct mission to get laid.

There are also follow up threads on that where I put up a Santa Clause ad and could have gotten into a relationship with an 18 y/o girl (with a child) if I really pursued it and she seemed to have a high sex drive.

Again, the tone on those threads are allot different than the one you have put there.

In another thread you go off on how your parents got mad at you and tried to help you out because you told them you like to wack it all the time. You might as well trade your c*ck in because that sh*t is worthless.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=139601

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Again, there is no effort of getting laid there too. The main thrust of that time was to try out a Fleshlight. It was the thinking that buying a Fleshlight would be better than masturbating, minus the STDs, etc... and plus you have a concept about actual sex.

The last real official effort to get laid was on that time period...but it really ended up as a boundaries test to see how far I would go. I'm not interested in testing my boundaries at this time.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

Seriously though, I want to know this. How does the whole lay process go? Alright, so you got her number, NOW WHAT? Wait let's go even BEFORE the number. When you approach a girl, how can you have INSTANT value to her and make her attracted? Because value is all that seems to matter when it comes to girls. If a girls uninterested in you, it's probably because you have no value to her. Anyway, I'd like to know that. Back to the number thing, you got her number, so now what do you do to move things on?

Become a value giver, not a taker.

But Gangster, how do I do that?

Well, put yourself in her shoes? Would you want ElStud to approach and would you be convinced without a doubt, that he would add value and make your life better than it was before you met him?

If you answered yes, and KNOW why, and are convinced of that fact (as in listing all the reasons/evidence),then you are set to go. If not, get to work now.

 

[stand]

Getting laid isn't comparable to being a Gold Medal swimmer, if you can pick up any girl that you want at any time and get laid with her, then that's Gold Medal material (assuming your looks is accounting for 30% or less of your game, I think people like stand who have a 95% looks game disqualified) However, getting laid with any skank because you are desperate to stick it into something hardly qualifies for Bronze or even a prize, you are just getting your feet wet. So before you compare apples to oranges, this is what we are talking about is getting the feet wet.

However, I'm not interested in getting my feet wet because my religious (moral standard was tested before and was not breached) standards, I may as well be a religious asexual, but that doesn't make me stupid on a few very basic facts.

You know what, this is the bottom line truth here. Unless you are like stand, who brags that random women throws themselve on to him since he has killer looks and gets instant fvcks, I don't think it's possible to get an instant attraction like that. But if you ask girls directly for sex, that saves time, because you cut all the BS out, they either say yes, or they say no and whatever reaction they may have and you go your marry way. No worrying about numbers, dates, what she is thinking. But you ask in a diplomatic way --- you dont ask a girl if she wants to fvck, you may say to someone you have rapport with "Would you like to have some fun?"

Keep my name out of your f.ucking virgin mouth.

You have never met me in real life so you have absolutely no idea how much I depend on my looks for my game you clown.

I post the best LR's here to give losers like you some hope. But you think of it as bragging, because you're clueless and are going to most likely spend the rest of your life looking for something that isn't real. Don't worry though, I'm sure mommy and daddy are proud of there virgin son. 40 years from now when you're on your death bed you are going to regret wasting away quality years of your life at church functions and sitting around.

Do us all a favor and log out and just browse this forum. You really can't add anything at all, because you're not even out in the real world. You're living in some delusional fantasy that you're going to somehow meet some nice virgin religious girl when you're already into your 30s.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

But you think of it as bragging, because you're clueless and s.

Looks like I touched a raw nerve.

No, I see plenty of reports on here, but your looks too easy and goes too perfectly all the time.

You see, if ElStud had your looks he would have women throwing themselves at him too and his problem would be to choose which few because he'd be inundated with attention, unless there is something about your game you are not telling us.

 

[stand]

Looks like I touched a raw nerve.

No, I see plenty of reports on here, but your looks too easy and goes too perfectly all the time.

You see, if ElStud had your looks he would have women throwing themselves at him too and his problem would be to choose which few because he'd be inundated with attention, unless there is something about your game you are not telling us.

Not really. It just pisses me off when idiots spout off advice when they really have no clue.

What would I be "hiding" about my game? I know when a girl wants it and I'm smart enough not to f.uck it up. Thats why I am perfect and so is my game.

You're reaching here bro.. You're speculating about me just like how you are speculating when you give advice. You have no clue, because you're not out there.

 

[MooseGod]

Luke, did you even read the main part of my post? The part about not expecting an outcome?

Relationships between men and women are natural. This isn't rocket science, it's an evolutionary animal instinct that has been around since the dawn of man. Now if you believe all this religious crap about Adam and Eve, you'd realize that Eve was put there because Adam was tired of jerking it.

The "lay process" is different every time in subtle ways, but essentially that doesn't matter. You just have to let it play out.

If you're dating a chick, chances are you're going to have sex with her sooner or later. Have you even kissed a girl? That's really all it takes to have sex with her. If you can make it to that stage, the rest is in the bag. Unless of course you start reading her bible verses or pull out a bag of her toenail clippings that you've been saving or something.

 

[DonJuan11]

Relationships between men and women are natural. This isn't rocket science, it's an evolutionary animal instinct that has been around since the dawn of man. Now if you believe all this religious crap about Adam and Eve, you'd realize that Eve was put there because Adam was tired of jerking it.

The "lay process" is different every time in subtle ways, but essentially that doesn't matter. You just have to let it play out.

If you're dating a chick, chances are you're going to have sex with her sooner or later. Have you even kissed a girl? That's really all it takes to have sex with her. If you can make it to that stage, the rest is in the bag.

Rock on!! I'm probably the last person to be able to give advice, but I don't think its that hard either. Like one of my friends said "If you are alone with her at your house, you can get bored and what else is there to do?"

You both have reproductive organs that should be put to use and IMHO she's not at your house to watch Gilmore Girls with you or to eat with you, so work it!!

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Never enough dough, I need more!

 

[DonJuan11]

There was allot of work involved in finding a connection and motivation to do so (i.e. negative energies towards an unrequited limerance object, thought of getting even with her by losing my virginity). I always make symbolic references to Nov/06 when referring to my choice of not getting laid since I'm not officially pursuing it as of Nov 29/06.

Come again?

 

[ezily]

But that still doesn't address two points:

1) Why would a girl do that if she if there is a rapport or there is some connection already? (one of the preconditions I stated)

2) The concept of fun is too ambigious to be interpreted to mean sex. Hooking-up and hanging-out is also ambigious. It could just mean enjoying each other's company at an amusement park, or walking around a mall, etc....

no it would not work because it is not smooth. It is also lame and AFC sounding. And because 'fun' is ambiguous it won't work. You need to be more direct with women and lead the way. Now that doesn't mean asking if she wants to have sex. Say something along the lines of 'let's go back to my place.' or if she denies then offer her place. Asking to 'have fun' is really stupid.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

What would I be "hiding" about my game? I know when a girl wants it and I'm smart enough not to f.uck it up. Thats why I am perfect and so is my game.

But you are finding girls that want it. That's ElSud's problem, that's Maxtro's problem and allot of other guys problem, they are not getting that experience, they are getting the cold shoulder and I think it has to do with looks.

If ElStud knew someone who wanted it with him, then it's allot more simple isn't it?

 

[Mad Manic]

Give it a rest Luke. You take a victim mentality then you get exactly what you deserve.

I think all he's saying is that stand apparently finds girls that throw themselves at him and want it bad, whereas most others here don't ever experience that, so it's 10 times harder. I think what you posted has more use and merit since you had to go through a process and she didn't throw herself at you.

MM

 

[ezily]

I think all he's saying is that stand apparently finds girls that throw themselves at him and want it bad, whereas most others here don't ever experience that, so it's 10 times harder.

Well if that is actually happening to stand then Luke is making a valid point IMO. BUT the problem is that Luke is just assuming it is all stand's look and his game does not matter. However, Luke does not know what stand looks like. So that judgment is not a fair one. Plus some people don't like saying that the only reason they succeed is because of their looks. It can actually demean a person and make them feel as if they are stupid. So saying it is because of stand's looks only could be taken as offensive. I don't think stand is offended by Luke's statement but by his jumping to conclusions and giving advice with little to no experience.