So, how does it actualy work

[slitherjef]

You know, you run into some chick you don't know, talk to her, perhaps 2 minutes and ask her for her number. Sometimes you get it or sometimes you don't. How the hell does a basic introductory conversation yield a phone number

You: Hi
Her: Hi
you: bla bla bla bla
Her: giggles (or something)
you: bla bla?
Her: bla
You: hey, I got to bale, but let us futher our chat over coffee, let me get your number:
Her: okay (or, I got a boyfriend/eff off or what not)

Okay, well not quite 2 minutes worth of dialog there, but you get the point, but what gets me is, how the do you get enough rapport to get a number out of some one you don't even know with very little dialog?

I mean I have had mini conversations with women when I am at work, that last a minute or two and never once have I though I could get a number out of her, but maybe thats because I don't think I should tring to get numbers from a customer while I am on the job ???

 

[jdawgmcb]

You need to read the bible, mystery method, etc...then youll know

 

[the_absolute]

Personally I have changed my MO from getting numbers to arranging a meeting in a couple days right then and there. Always arrange it for a place where there are loads of other women so they all see you meeting the one hb if she turns up (normally they do) and if she doesn't turn up, tons of other targets all around.

Another thing is if you ARE going to use the number thing, get the number, THEN take her to another place, somewhere quieter. Get close etc, spend time after you got the number, make out some, then make a date.

Phone #s are overrated. Some chicks will give theirs out to anyone.

I don't like having phone conversations with women I'm not already 'intimate' with.

 

[thirdtimescharm]

I have to agree with the_absolute here. about phone conversations Between telephones, text messaging, online dating, and email, we could get so lost in these impersonal forms of communication that we can forget how to act when the sh** is on the line...when you are looking that woman in the eye and you need to SAY something to close the deal.

 

[The Deacon]

Phone #s are overrated. Some chicks will give theirs out to anyone.

Yup, once you get more experienced you realize that numbers are not even 20% of the entire game. I've done a lot of number closes though, so I'll try to explain the process best way that I possibly can, or at least what works for me the best.

1. Be genuine and up front.

If you approach a lone, attractive girl at a party or in public, she's probably going to assume that you're hitting on her. So, what I like doing is putting this thing out in the open. Keep in mind, this is direct game as opposed to indirect game.

Me: Hey, I saw you from across the room and I knew I just had to hit on you like some love-struck teenager.

(pause here, see if she laughs. Make sure you're keeping eye contact with her and DO NOT FIDGET AT THIS POINT. If she doesn't laugh, then extend your hand out and say the following. Make sure your hand stays in the same spot so she'll HAVE to shake it. This is called kino vacuum.)

Me: My name's ____, what's yours?
She: _____


To get a better idea of what I mean by genuine and up front, watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvbib04tD6s

2. Banter

This is where a decent set of conversational skills comes in real handy. All you gotta do here is just talk talk, occupy her conscious mind, make her laugh, blah blah. Make sure you give the occasional eye contact and watch for IOIs like hair touches and reinitiation of conversation after a pregnant pause. Just find some random stupid thing to talk about, like the class you were just at. It's not really what you talk about as much as your body language as you talk to her. If you talk slowly and confidently, she'll pick up on it. You never hear a girl that says "I want my boyfriend to NOT have confidence," so this only work for your good.

3. Number close

When you reach the point where you two are about to part ways (like, if you're walking together and get to a crossroads or the school bell rings), you come up with some blatantly stupid excuse to get her number. It sounds dumb, but it's not really a bad idea. I just say, jokingly, "we should continue our uhh, riveting conversation about cardboard boxes" and pull out my phone. She may give resistance at this point to sh*t test you.

Sometimes, they say "what is that, like, some cheap line?"

If they say something of this nature, you're still in the game. She hasn't walked away. All you gotta do is tease her and say "wow, you have a great grasp of the obvious, congratulations." If she still gives you the deadpan just give a sly smile and say "it's a yes or no question, if you say no it's not like I'm gonna cry at night." Usually, at this point, they give me the number because this demonstrated balls.

Hope that helps.

 

[Effington]

Last good approach I had we found a common interest in music. I told her I was going to a venue in a week or two (a place she mentioned earlier she went to a lot), and I would get in touch with her later if the plan was on--she volunteered her number.

 

[MooseGod]

It's all about finding common ground and getting out of the customer/employee frame. Comment on the weather, her clothing, what she's buying, anything to start the dialogue and make both of you more comfortable. If she's open and receptive, and doesn't say "my boyfriend" anywhere in the convo, get her number.

 

[Snow Plowman]

Before I talk about this there is no reason to be trying to go for the # in 2mins unless a REAL time constraint is in effect that really causes you to not stay longer.

Girl's not flaking comes from solid game, cover all bases. You should NEVER be trying to go for the # unless its a MUST. A lot of guys think of #s as success because back in there AFC days they'd be in awe if they got a #. The thing about #s is that it just means...

You can continue the interaction some other time by meeting up another day. If that is the case why can't you continue the interaction RIGHT NOW? If you have time why don't you try to venue change to someplace or even sit down somewhere and interact.

Now if there is a real time constraint such as you late for work, girl is about to get off the train in 2 stops, etc. Then you'd have to go for the quick #.

In this case you'd start conversation, offer value to her, then mix qualification into the request for the #. If you do a bit of qualification there is a better chance she won't flake.

If you just go right into qualification and she isn't even attracted she won't give her # and if you just offer value and go for the # then you'll get it but she most likely will flake. So if you do both then there is a better chance.