so epstein hung himself are you surprised

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Fake suicide and running away?

Weird af for sure, lots of ppl predicted his death
 

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I actually doubt it was a murder, it's too complicated. He could have been made gone missing while out of jail, or waked the first time around.

Apparently there was no people he could rat out, so no reason to get rid of him.

I guess he realized at age 69 the time he will be given is a life sentence.
 

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Someone definitely facilitated his suicide.

But I do agree it's looks more of a suicide rather then outright murder that's having the conspiracy theorists tongues wagging.
Similar to the Godfather movie trilogy, where the captain who turned was encouraged to kill himself while under FBI protection. Someone convinced Epstein that he had a lot to lose by staying alive. There's a lot of high-level people involved in this.
 

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Seeing as one of Trump's earliest Executive Orders was that human traffickers would forfeit ALL assets, then Epstein knew for sure his money would not go to any heirs.

It seems far more likely he was silenced, permanently.
Fake news. The order had nothing to do with Epstein. Executive orders dont change the law.

Furthermore, Trump promoting baseless conspiracy theories is just a sad attempt to distract from the fact that he was Epstein's sidekick and they were raping little girls together.
 

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Fake news. The order had nothing to do with Epstein. Executive orders dont change the law.

Furthermore, Trump promoting baseless conspiracy theories is just a sad attempt to distract from the fact that he was Epstein's sidekick and they were raping little girls together.
I'm against forced sexual assault, especially when it's targeted at minors.

But let's get it right, those girls were in it for the money, not conned into being in love nor forced.
 

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I'm against forced sexual assault, especially when it's targeted at minors.

But let's get it right, those girls were in it for the money, not conned into being in love nor forced.
What is your cut off age for being able to make that decision as an adult? 14? 12?
 

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But let's get it right, those girls were in it for the money, not conned into being in love nor forced.
Yes, it was always about the money. The main question though is, at what age does a young girl have the maturity to value her future feelings and self worth over the ability to make hundreds of dollars within 24-48 hours as well as other various freebies like trips to an island or mansion…
 

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What is your cut off age for being able to make that decision as an adult? 14? 12?
I can’t speak for spaz obviously. If they are sex slaves against their will then obviously they didn’t make that decision. I’m against breaking the law. The whole thing is degenerate activity. But they made the call to do it for money. I didn’t read where they were made addicted to drugs. That would be forced as well.

But I don’t think the girls should get a pass. I guess mommy didn’t do so well after all.
 

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I guess mommy didn’t do so well after all.
Yes, likely prime young female candidates to be procured are those that have not had ingrained morals, a good sense of right vs.wrong, and good motherly role modeling by proper parenting instilled at a young age…
 

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suicide all the way no conspiracy maybe a firing do to the fact the watchmen went off somewhere
 

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I can’t speak for spaz obviously. If they are sex slaves against their will then obviously they didn’t make that decision. I’m against breaking the law. The whole thing is degenerate activity. But they made the call to do it for money. I didn’t read where they were made addicted to drugs. That would be forced as well.

But I don’t think the girls should get a pass. I guess mommy didn’t do so well after all.
so the fact that their parenting sucked and left them in a vulnerable position means that they get what they deserve in terms of an extremely mature man paying them for sexual Services when they are underage?

In fact, the 18-year cutoff is exactly intended to protect these type of people, the vulnerable ones, the ones who had sucky childhoods and don't know to steer clear of this

Seriously
 

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so the fact that their parenting sucked and left them in a vulnerable position means that they get what they deserve in terms of an extremely mature man paying them for sexual Services when they are underage?
That was pretty ridiculous and a typical gas light.
Only a demented mind would come up with something so silly.

If that’s what you got from that then that’s what you got. What kind of person are you to think that somebody else thinks they deserved it. Was there even a single person in this thread that thinks that? Who? Point me in their direction so I can thrash them.

A 15 year old kills someone. Nope not responsible. 15 year old girl sells herself for money and the lure of status increase. Nope not responsible.

I despise nearly all politicians. Go ahead. Wack’m. I’m good with it. But don’t even pretend that those girls didn’t know what they were doing.
 

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These are your contradictory statements. Unless I'm mistaken and one was sarcasm.
I was being sarcastic. Lol
Of course she’s responsible for her actions
 

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This is how degraded we are socially. Politicians not going to prison for obvious crimes. Not alleged but certain.

You take a young woman/girl, who made a bad choice of her own volition.
Then society and the media is giving her/them the “it’s not your fault” irresponsible out.
Not only does this trap the woman and degrades her mind, but she will not face her decision and learn from it.
Socially induced irresponsibility that seals her fate and destroys her mind.
That’s just how disgraceful this is. Denying a human being the right to face their decisions and grow.

Then some of you socially programmed men jump on this as just. How supportive you are. Destroy in the name of help and you bought into it. Holy crap.

Go ahead and shoot the politicians but you sit that woman down and tell her or get her to admit the destructive nature of her decision. Allow no “if and’s or but’s. She did it. Blaming another’s or her situation is nothing more than a justification. All those psycho-babble nut jobs want to seal her fate in this.
 

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Yes, it was always about the money. The main question though is, at what age does a young girl have the maturity to value her future feelings and self worth over the ability to make hundreds of dollars within 24-48 hours as well as other various freebies like trips to an island or mansion…
A very good question.

I trust we can agree those girls did it out of greed.

When does a female mature away from her greed ? Will it be 16? Or 18? Or 40? Or never ?

The better question everyone should ask, would she put her fingers in a fire at the age of 12 or even at 10 ?

And you guys will exclaim "Of course not, she's not that dumb!".

But here you all are thinking she's dumb to not know what she was getting into at 14 ?

Phulease.
 

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