Smooth or stupid?

[D97]

So I wanted this girl's number today:

*10 mins of relaxed smalltalk; both of us sat down
D97: What's your mobile number? (calm expression, looking directly at her)
*She smiles, picks up her mobile phone in an uneasy manner
*I pick up on that instantly, and say:
D97: Can you not remember it?
*She gives me a sly smile
Her: No, not a clue
*She puts her phone back on the table

I look indifferent, walk off to one of my friends. I felt annoyed and a bit hurt for a few seconds. I was pissed at myself for giving her a way out. Despite how uncomfortable she looked in that split second when she picked up her phone, I did give her a way out with my words. She would have given me the number had I kept quiet (though with that reaction, what it would have led to would have probably been nothing).

Then, I thought of something. I wasn't going to let her get away with that.

15 minutes later, I walk over:

*She is reading a text message
D97: Can I have your phone a sec?
*She hands it over unwillingly

Whilst she sat there in awe (or confusion, couldn't really tell) I dialed my own mobile number, and called my mobile.

*She moves her hand to take it from me but stops it mid-air, then receeds it
D97: I just need to test something

I took it out, watched the call connect and my phone vibrate.

Her number magically appeared on my phone. As you know, all cell phones have automatic caller ID and store whatever phone's number they recieve.

She saw it happen.

I was ecstatic, hardly controlling my smile, said "thanks", gave her a wink, and walked off, out of the library (in college) and to my friends.

It felt very smooth at the time, though to reflect on it, I more or less took her number by force. Earlier in the conversation she was either a) playing with me (hence the sly smile), or b) just not interested and took the exit when I gave it to her.

Next time I see her I'm going to make some sort of joke about it.

Anyway, good move? Or just stupid?

 

[Slickster]

You definately took what you wanted didn't you?

The question of whether it was a good move or not depends on whether you use the #. Or when you use it.

I say you should initiate more contact with her in person.
You shouldn't use the number until her IL is high enough that she'd obviously give her # to you if you asked again. Then just sit on it for a while. She'll be wondering why you haven't called.

Sounds like she was on the fence about giving you her # so I'd say you have more work to do.

 

[honeyshark]

Umm, your chances aren't good if she wasn't even willing to give you her number the first time. If fact, they are really poor. Stealing it wont help, it's a symbolic gesture when she gives it to you because it socially sets the groudwork for you to call her later.

Personal opinion; giving her an out the first time was smooth. Walking away in acceptance and then coming back and stealing the number was not. But who knows, call her and find out how she reacted.

Peace.

 

[D97]

Okay, so that's 1 for smooth and 1 for stupid. 1:1 so far then.

Anymore?

 

[seulaxplaya]

u messed up right away by reaching for your phone right when she did. makes you look desperate. That may have been a test to see if u are a scrub and u passed with flying colors. Next time just play it cool let her grab it for whatever retarded reason she wants. Just think about it why would she reach for it anyways. Who besides little kids doesnt know their phone number.

 

[wheelin&dealin]

Call her up and then force her to have sex with you... just like you forced her to give you her number.

 

[D97]

Ouch.

Put it this way. I had two options:

a) Stay depressed for most of the morning in resentment;

b) Pull a trick to get what I wanted in the first place; leave with the last laugh;

If I hadn't gone back for the number, she would have been NEXTed: as in, I would have never spoken to her again. At least my actions leave the door open for future contact - I did something different to what I usually do; instead of running away, I showed I had some balls for once.

And that was what I did.

If she's going to pull such a lame excuse as "not remembering", without having the decency to at least say something mildly convincing she deserves to have her number taken.

Besides, I actually don't think she has caught on that I have it. From what I saw, she really believed I just wanted to "test" my phone.

Anyway, I'm not going to use it, and never planned to in the first place, even if she had given it to me willingly - I hate the phone in the early stages. Any contact after that would have been in person. Like someone mentioned in a reply, it's just a formality - social groundwork if you will.

Next time I see her I have something to talk about that's put me on a higher plane rather than grovelling in smalltalk hoping to peak at a point where I can beg for her number again, and look pathetic considering she had already denied beforehand.

I was ****y (took what I wanted), funny (she laughed) and now have the opportunity to tease her next time I see her. I see no wrong in it.

 

[Golden Arms]

I don't know about your chances with her, but what you did was definitely funny.
But since you have the #, you might as well use it - in a couple of weeks or so....

 

[NewMike]

Um, that was stupid. If she's not into you, shes not into you. You stealing her phone number from her is not going to make her like you, and now u look like a pushy ass.

The DJ process is all about reading people, and then upping your chances with the girls that have high IL using the techniques listed here. Its not about being pushy with Low IL girls.

She definately didnt have high IL, and (despite reading her right) you pushed the issue.

Shoulda left it as is when u left the first time and moved on. Why would you want to waste time on a girl that's not into you?

Now u look like u sat around and thought about it and then took the number anyway.

You sholdnt waste time with a hb that's not interested in you. There's plenty of women out there who are. Don't waste your time with this one.

my .02

 

[D97]

I think you pretty much summed it up there Mike.

All I wanted to argue was that I'd rather go out with humour, if I have to go out at all.

But yeah, the whole DJ thing is about improving your chances with high IL girls, not working on the ones that give you a redlight straight away showing no interest. That's pointless.

I think she was sitting on the fence with this one though. I only went for the number for the sake of it. I have a feeling if'd waited and asked another time after I'd built up much more of a connection I would have had better results. A mistake, then.

We'll see what happens. I won't see her for about two weeks (breaking up from college this weekend; she's away on a trip) so I'll have probably forgotten about her by then.

Like you lot said: move on. I'm glad I did what I did - it's all about gaining experience, after all.

 

[icepick]

I think you should always leave girls an easy way out. That way, they will not hang out with you unless they are actually interested, and you will not have to put up with strange change of plans and wierd excuses.

When girls don't like you, they usually won't come out and say it. They may even go along with you if you are even the least bit persistent, even though they still don't like you. (This causes MUCH confusion down the line.)

As long as you don't play yourself, I think you should always leave chicks an 'escape clause'. How can you be sure if she wants you if you never gave her a chance to leave?