Slovak girl, 9

[pipeman84]

Dubious? You don't know them, you have never met them so you're in no position to say something like that about them. I feel that you are envious, not the first time I tell you this.

So you prefer to pay and have sex with a prostitute than with a grad student who is a solid 9, who, from what I've seen, is a good little girl.
You talk about dubious women and you're willing to pay 150 euros to **** a piece a trash.

You're envious and it pisses you off that I got laid without all the RP, that's whats up.

Man, I never met Kim Kardashian yet I have no doubt in saying she's of dubious quality. You've offered enough info about them that I can safely draw that conclusion. Oh, grad student, let me lie down and recover. As if firstly that has any bearing on her quality and secondly as if there aren't plenty grad students and graduates doing OF.
Last time I checked a fvck with a good looking young woman in Amsterdam was 50 euros, the same price in brothels in Germany, but maybe the inflation really bumped it up.
I'm not envious or pissed, you even thinking that says something about you. I merely offered a different perspective on cost/benefit and a different definition of what success means.

 

[Bigpapa]

'Red-pilled' principles are about being a masculine man, screening for a quality woman who has high interest level and then getting into a relationship with her. That's what counts as success.
In the 2 cases you mentioned, we're dealing with women of dubious quality (I'm not referring to physical attractiveness) and the OP isn't in a relationship with either of them. He just fvcked them.
Orbiting a woman for months to get access to pvssy, particularly considering that OP is based in an area where sex workers are legal and easily available ... sounds to me like he grossly overpaid in time and energy, but hey, to each their own.

He has a point though, a lot of women will monkey branch when the relationship is over long time before she actually cheats


How many women have you met that put an end to the relationship and then went hoeing or not ?

Even men more or less kinda behave the same, no guy will end a relationship unless it is very toxic or he already has a side piece or the woman breakups up with him

Actually, the funny thing is that whoever does the breaking up will make the other person emotionally damaged, no matter if the relationship was good or bad or at the end

From my experience, women who are single when you meet them were dumped before, and you have to go through all the drama that comes after the guy breaks up with them

I think that overall we should not have unrealistic expectations from men or women, sure some things are not ethical, but at the end of the day one thing is to say that something is unethical and totally a different thing is to bash up someone solely based on some unrealistic expectations that no one almost ever adheres to them

Overall, yeah he is unethical because he smashed a girl that has a bf, but he played the game quite well ( mainly due to self awareness )

Also, quality escorts are like minimum 300 euros per hour. Gets quite expensive if you want to have a good time at the high end spectrum

Paying for a meh escorts( which btw is like 200 euros) does not worth it

From my end, it is only worth going to really high end escorts ( but they are really expensive- for most men at least), otherwise better to put the effort short or long on scoring girls from cold approaches/ social circle/tinder. You have a way better ROI than paying for meh girls for sex