Skinnyguy or Body for Life?
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elvis aint dead yet
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Body for life is Bill Phillips way of thinking. While it was extremely popular a couple of years ago and it can work for you, I'd recommend staying away from people like that who come out with new concepts and books every year just to make a few more extra dollars by taking advantage of some people's weaknesses.
Read up on many different training methods. It's easy to research things on the net these days. Then decide for yourself what you want to do.
Go join a gym that offers free personal training for at least a week or more. Get some ideas. Research training methods and nutrition. Research what you should eat, what you should not eat and then go out and do it for yourself.
While there are common exercises and foods everybody eats, everybody is different. Go figure out what works best for you.
Only way you can really learn is to study things and then go out an do them for yourself.
Don't waste time and money on some "system" because usually, if your doing that, you'll quit in a few weeks anyway when you aren't getting fast enough results.
Read up on many different training methods. It's easy to research things on the net these days. Then decide for yourself what you want to do.
Go join a gym that offers free personal training for at least a week or more. Get some ideas. Research training methods and nutrition. Research what you should eat, what you should not eat and then go out and do it for yourself.
While there are common exercises and foods everybody eats, everybody is different. Go figure out what works best for you.
Only way you can really learn is to study things and then go out an do them for yourself.
Don't waste time and money on some "system" because usually, if your doing that, you'll quit in a few weeks anyway when you aren't getting fast enough results.
Body for Life is not a bulking program. It's more of a way of life. Just a healthy life style. If you follow/live the program, you'll gain muscle and decrease your fat. You'll never become huge like Arnold. (Unless you're seriously genitically gifted).
Alexis Zorba
Don Juan
Check this out
If you truly want to manipulate your body at your will check this: http://www.abcbodybuilding.com
This site is FULL of scientifically supported information about any aspect of bodysculpting. However you must be warned. This site is not for lazy people. It advocates hard work and extensive reading is required in order to grasp the basics of body sculpting.
However there are also pretty good guides to bulking or cutting up in there.
Just give the site a look.
Alexis Zorba
If you truly want to manipulate your body at your will check this: http://www.abcbodybuilding.com
This site is FULL of scientifically supported information about any aspect of bodysculpting. However you must be warned. This site is not for lazy people. It advocates hard work and extensive reading is required in order to grasp the basics of body sculpting.
However there are also pretty good guides to bulking or cutting up in there.
Just give the site a look.
Alexis Zorba
What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
donny osmond
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Silverwex, DO NOT BUY INTO THESE PROGRAMS.
I was thinking just like you about 9 months ago when i was 155lbs 6.3(!),
- i wonder if the skinnyguy.net program is for me
- i'm not from USA, will it be harder to get all the food/things Ellis asks
etc....
Basically, i thought, fudge it - i'm not paying 60-odd quid on top of all the other things i had to buy.
I opted to take it in stages, basically eating lots more (bout 5meals a day with 1 shake) then doing a 3-day split, and then taking it up to a 4-day split for a few months.
I got ALL my information on
-split workouts/exercise/nutrition/weights etc.
from www.bodybuilding.com and the health and fitness section in sosuave.com.
The skinnyguy.net shizzle is good for inspiration, but personally I didn't waste my hard-earned money for someone to tell me something i knew already. Now, with a hell of a lot of hard work i'm a lean 196.5lbs.
It's your choice but i did it and i have school 8 hrs a day and a job on top of that.
I was thinking just like you about 9 months ago when i was 155lbs 6.3(!),
- i wonder if the skinnyguy.net program is for me
- i'm not from USA, will it be harder to get all the food/things Ellis asks
etc....
Basically, i thought, fudge it - i'm not paying 60-odd quid on top of all the other things i had to buy.
I opted to take it in stages, basically eating lots more (bout 5meals a day with 1 shake) then doing a 3-day split, and then taking it up to a 4-day split for a few months.
I got ALL my information on
-split workouts/exercise/nutrition/weights etc.
from www.bodybuilding.com and the health and fitness section in sosuave.com.
The skinnyguy.net shizzle is good for inspiration, but personally I didn't waste my hard-earned money for someone to tell me something i knew already. Now, with a hell of a lot of hard work i'm a lean 196.5lbs.
It's your choice but i did it and i have school 8 hrs a day and a job on top of that.
No matter what you do, what is more important is your drive and consistancy.
The challenge is not to go to the gym, but to go to the gym and do the diet on a regular basis, to make it habit.
Without that, no program or information will work.
If you're not sure you can handle it on a regular basis, don't get any program. Get into a routine of fitness first, do anything. Once you know you will do something and stick to it, then look into more information or a program.
Even if you are skinny or fat, simply running around is a BIG IMPROVEMENT than just sitting there doing nothing like most people do. A body molded by action is more attractive than a body that just sits around.
This is better than buying a program or reading countless articles and expecting miracles. Once you know you have the DRIVE and the CONSISTANCY, only then would I reccomend paying for any program.
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The Body for Life is a very generalized book whose market is a mass audience. Meaning, the book is meant for old people, young people, fat people, poofy people, people who look like walruses, people who waddle about, ape-like people, and so on. After all, Wal-Mart features Body for Life throughout their stores.
From what I've read from Body of Life, the information is not bad, it's just that the author gives no solid details, just more prose. The reason why is because the book is targeted at a generalized audience.
Body for Life is something you'd give your parents.
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The Skinnyguy.net progam is designed for and targeted for (no surprise) skinny guys who have trouble gaining. Though I've noticed the information is so well presented and applicable that even older people and people not of the 'ectomorph' (skinny) body type benefit as well.
Donny Osmond is correct that you can get results if you go and look up the information (for free) over the Internet. Go ahead and try that, as you won't be losing any money from it.
But there is a problem with this argument. I could also gain the same information (and probably superior information) through the Internet than going to college. After all, all the classics are up on the Internet. All the medical journals, scientific journals, literary classics, and even commentary on them. But if I did this, I would lack a solid foundation.
The reason why I bought the skinnyguy.net program, when everyone told me I shouldn't because I can 'get the information for free over the Net', is because of TIME.
To me, it wasn't an issue of money but an issue of time. Time, to me, if more valuable than money as I can always make more money, I cannot make more time.
There is a lot of hype in the fitness realm and a lot of 'this NEW program works WONDERS' mentality. Do you want to go sorting yourself through that junk?
I wanted solid information that would let me gain mass. Anthony Ellis's program gives you all that, even describes the scientific reactions behind your metabolism, the supplements, your diet, the work-out, and such.
I actually do the program lazily. But I'm consistant in my diet and work-outs, and the results follow from that. When I want to 'upgrade' my routine, I just apply more and more of the details. In fitness, the devil is in the details.
Go ahead and try all the websites and articles on the Internet. But if you find yourself going in circles, not getting SOLID information, consider a program.
Your time is worth more than your money. If I can spend a little bit of money to gain extra chunks of time in my life, I'll do it in a heartbeat.
The challenge is not to go to the gym, but to go to the gym and do the diet on a regular basis, to make it habit.
Without that, no program or information will work.
If you're not sure you can handle it on a regular basis, don't get any program. Get into a routine of fitness first, do anything. Once you know you will do something and stick to it, then look into more information or a program.
Even if you are skinny or fat, simply running around is a BIG IMPROVEMENT than just sitting there doing nothing like most people do. A body molded by action is more attractive than a body that just sits around.
This is better than buying a program or reading countless articles and expecting miracles. Once you know you have the DRIVE and the CONSISTANCY, only then would I reccomend paying for any program.
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The Body for Life is a very generalized book whose market is a mass audience. Meaning, the book is meant for old people, young people, fat people, poofy people, people who look like walruses, people who waddle about, ape-like people, and so on. After all, Wal-Mart features Body for Life throughout their stores.
From what I've read from Body of Life, the information is not bad, it's just that the author gives no solid details, just more prose. The reason why is because the book is targeted at a generalized audience.
Body for Life is something you'd give your parents.
--------------------------------------------------
The Skinnyguy.net progam is designed for and targeted for (no surprise) skinny guys who have trouble gaining. Though I've noticed the information is so well presented and applicable that even older people and people not of the 'ectomorph' (skinny) body type benefit as well.
Donny Osmond is correct that you can get results if you go and look up the information (for free) over the Internet. Go ahead and try that, as you won't be losing any money from it.
But there is a problem with this argument. I could also gain the same information (and probably superior information) through the Internet than going to college. After all, all the classics are up on the Internet. All the medical journals, scientific journals, literary classics, and even commentary on them. But if I did this, I would lack a solid foundation.
The reason why I bought the skinnyguy.net program, when everyone told me I shouldn't because I can 'get the information for free over the Net', is because of TIME.
To me, it wasn't an issue of money but an issue of time. Time, to me, if more valuable than money as I can always make more money, I cannot make more time.
There is a lot of hype in the fitness realm and a lot of 'this NEW program works WONDERS' mentality. Do you want to go sorting yourself through that junk?
I wanted solid information that would let me gain mass. Anthony Ellis's program gives you all that, even describes the scientific reactions behind your metabolism, the supplements, your diet, the work-out, and such.
I actually do the program lazily. But I'm consistant in my diet and work-outs, and the results follow from that. When I want to 'upgrade' my routine, I just apply more and more of the details. In fitness, the devil is in the details.
Go ahead and try all the websites and articles on the Internet. But if you find yourself going in circles, not getting SOLID information, consider a program.
Your time is worth more than your money. If I can spend a little bit of money to gain extra chunks of time in my life, I'll do it in a heartbeat.