Six Month Progress Report

[NorPacWolf]

Inspired by a recent progress report post on masf, I am posting my own progress report. I have been actively involved in studying and practicing seduction techniques since April 2005. I started night game in July 2005. I am not completely satisfied with my results so far.

Here is a summary of my activity in the past six months (since mid-February 2006). I typically go out two nights a week, usually Friday/Saturday:

1. I have received at least one IOI from 350 girls.

2. I have received 135 approach invitations from girls.

3. I have been approached by 65 chicks (i.e. chicks open me with conversation, kino or walk up and stand squarely in front of me; this is different from proximity alerts).

4. I have been groped by at least 25 chicks (girls grabbing my ass, rubbing my crotch, rubbing my nipples, fondling my chest and/or stomach, rubbing my legs within a minute of me meeting a girl).

5. I have only dated or gone on day 2's with three girls.

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Therefore:

1. I am approached by about a dozen chicks a month.

2. I am given approach invitations by about two dozen chicks a month.

3. I can get to the start of A3 maybe 50 times a month (girls rarely stop by giving me just one IOI).

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My goals in the next three months:

1. Try not to eject so soon. I tend to leave immediately if there is a dull spot in the conversation, or if there is any awkward silence or lull.

2. continue to work on A3. I rarely qualified girls in the past, and am now focusing on doing just that.

3. focus on getting kiss closes once A3 is completed, or whenever I think the time is appropriate.

4. isolate girls by moving them within a venue.

5. practice bouncing girls to a different venue.

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My goals within the next six months:

1. full close with a girl '7' or above. A '6' would be acceptable.


I know this is not terribly ambitious but I want to have definite expectations without overloading myself with a bunch of goals that create undue stress.


Wolfie

 

[Vulpine]

Abdul says you've got a 32.33, that's repeating of course, chance of getting some tail in the next 6 months.

Dude, pull a "Leroy Jenkins" on the women!

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=995821&posted=1#post995821

Study long, study wrong.

 

[realsmoothie]

Norpac, you must be pretty attractive to get all those IOI's and assorted groping out of nowhere.

You should be closing more, considering the girls are so hot for you! What do you think is your problem?

 

[Bourne]

I think his problem is keeping track of all this stuff and thinking too much about it.

 

[Archaxis]

1. I am approached by about a dozen chicks a month.

Holy sh1t!!! I'd say that I only get approched by women once or twice a YEAR! WTF am I doing wrong? I go out at least as often as you say you do. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure my getting past date #2 ratio is better than yours.

 

[KennyVendetta]

Wow...that's analytical!!! Based on your other long thread of posts I am assuming that you are not a bad looking guy based on the attention you are recieving.

Really...it's time to full close. All you have to do is to get a girl back to your house...has this happened yet?

 

[NorPacWolf]

Just about everyone has better end game/closing game than I do at this point.
Don't worry about not getting approached by chicks. I've heard of guys who get approached 10 times a night if they go to a club.

Just approach whoever you want. And close them regardless of who approached who.

Wolf

Holy sh1t!!! I'd say that I only get approched by women once or twice a YEAR! WTF am I doing wrong? I go out at least as often as you say you do. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure my getting past date #2 ratio is better than yours.

 

[white sox bill]

Nor, how do you handle those nights when you just plain strike out? How many do you have? My last night was 0 for 5...
*Went to wedding reception which was lame,boring and dry. Lots of over-religious (nothing wrong w/that) people there.
*Next went to sporting event where I wanted to get the phone number of this bar maid that shows strong interest in me. She wasn't working that night
*Next went to bar where people mostly 30's and 40's hang out. Last night it was much more older than that, and the what few women were there were nothing to look at.
*Next went to bar where average age was like 24. I'm 46, although most people guess me much younger. Nothing close to my age there.
*Ended up going to party where everyone there was coupled w/others. Time to cash it in.

Was sorta down when I went to bed w/ no new phone numbers, no leasds, nothing. Did you get down on yourself?

 

[NorPacWolf]

Funny that you ask. I just had a very slow weekend which involved auditioning some new wings. As usual, they suck. I actually ditched them on Sat and flew solo. I was WAAAAY out of state because the new guys had such weak game and were getting me down. I just sat at the bar doing nothing. Finally, I said fvck this, I might as well chat with people instead of sitting like a bump on a log.

I talked to like 7 or 8 people in the last half hour, guys and gals alike. Some guy I befriended had just bought me a shot, and I was flying high. The last girl I approached started to heat up. We chatted very briefly and then the kino started up really fast. She pulled me in, put her arm around my lower waist. She put her face next to my lips and I kissed her a few times on her cheeks and ear. I accuse her of grabbing my ass (not true, her hand was on the small of my back). She then grabs my ass and I grab hers back.

Her friends were watching and start to loudly mention that she was about to go home to her man. The girl herself said the same thing to me. I start losing interest and let her go. Not a wise move in retrospect.

You can always get out of a funk, regardless of how sh1tty you feel. Just start talking to everyone in your vicinity and I bet you'll snap out of it.

Wolf

Nor, how do you handle those nights when you just plain strike out? How many do you have? My last night was 0 for 5...
*Went to wedding reception which was lame,boring and dry. Lots of over-religious (nothing wrong w/that) people there.
*Next went to sporting event where I wanted to get the phone number of this bar maid that shows strong interest in me. She wasn't working that night
*Next went to bar where people mostly 30's and 40's hang out. Last night it was much more older than that, and the what few women were there were nothing to look at.
*Next went to bar where average age was like 24. I'm 46, although most people guess me much younger. Nothing close to my age there.
*Ended up going to party where everyone there was coupled w/others. Time to cash it in.

Was sorta down when I went to bed w/ no new phone numbers, no leasds, nothing. Did you get down on yourself?

 

[white sox bill]

Funny that you ask. I just had a very slow weekend which involved auditioning some new wings. As usual, they suck. I actually ditched them on Sat and flew solo. I was WAAAAY out of state because the new guys had such weak game and were getting me down. I just sat at the bar doing nothing. Finally, I said fvck this, I might as well chat with people instead of sitting like a bump on a log.

I talked to like 7 or 8 people in the last half hour, guys and gals alike. Some guy I befriended had just bought me a shot, and I was flying high. The last girl I approached started to heat up. We chatted very briefly and then the kino started up really fast. She pulled me in, put her arm around my lower waist. She put her face next to my lips and I kissed her a few times on her cheeks and ear. I accuse her of grabbing my ass (not true, her hand was on the small of my back). She then grabs my ass and I grab hers back.

Her friends were watching and start to loudly mention that she was about to go home to her man. The girl herself said the same thing to me. I start losing interest and let her go. Not a wise move in retrospect.

You can always get out of a funk, regardless of how sh1tty you feel. Just start talking to everyone in your vicinity and I bet you'll snap out of it.

Wolf

Wolf do you frequent bars that are mellow? The two bars I went to were very hard to carry on conversations with due to very loud music.

 

[NorPacWolf]

The hottest chicks always gravitate to the loudest, most popular, most crowded bars and clubs. That way, they're seen by the most guys. They have more prospects to choose from. Think about it, where's a hot assed chick going to be on a weekend night: sitting all alone in her living room, or out in a HUGE throng of people, with dozens or hundreds of guys ogling her and with a bunch of her female competitors checking her out? As a thought experiment, if you were a hot chick, where would you go on a Friday night? Would you stay at home, or sit in a quiet cafe? Don't think so...

Learn to kino escalate rapidly in loud bars and clubs. Verbal game is overrated. Learn to dance, kino escalate, and lead sexually.

Wolf do you frequent bars that are mellow? The two bars I went to were very hard to carry on conversations with due to very loud music.

 

[NorPacWolf]

Again, I respectfully disagree. I think analysis can become an issue IF you stop working on your game. But IF you keep working on your game then try to break it down afterwards, that's different. Let me offer a more subjective sense of my experiences so far nonetheless...

I stated this in my journal I believe; I talked with a natural friend of mine recently (he is a 10 year vet of club sarging). I compared notes and asked him if he's been approached in the same way/s that I've been approached. His answer? Never. This guy's count is nearly 300, so clearly women find him attractive. But he's never seen or experienced situations in which attraction spikes as quickly or sharply as has happened to me in a number of cases.

I've been reading some of Tyler Durden's posts on girls who just break down crying, sh1t testing, just basically losing it in the face of Mystery's larger than life personality, and in response to Durden. I'm seeing some interesting reactions in the field myself. Not quite that extreme, but when I read his post, the experiences sounded familiar. Girls have chased me down the street, run away from me, frozen in their tracks, rolled their ankle performing a favor for me, been on the verge of crying, started slapping and screaming uncontrollably (this is after mino kino and some brief chit chat), fondled my private parts repeatedly; one bartender chick just started jumping up and down and started shrieking with a big smile when she saw me coming to the bar. I didn't say anything to her. All I did was walk! These are just some highly unusual reactions. I think many men, even very experienced men, might find such experiences to be a bit unusual. And there are many many more similar experiences I could list here. I think it's only natural to want to figure out why these things are happening.

Aside from Tyler Durden's anecdotal observations, a lot of theories are not really designed to account for/explain such strong reactions. So I'm playing this all by ear...


Wolf

Abdul says you've got a 32.33, that's repeating of course, chance of getting some tail in the next 6 months.

Dude, pull a "Leroy Jenkins" on the women!

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=995821&posted=1#post995821

Study long, study wrong.