sitting here watching oprah (don't start)

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this burns me up so bad I had to come type this crap. woman was in the military, gets home from iraq, becomes a *****, has a baby, dad splits, becuase no one else can take care of the kid, she got released from the military. no job, so now she is homeless living in the car with a baby.
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so of course she's on oprah and you know she's about to get laced mtv crib style, becudase she is a war vet. since when does that excuse you fo;r being a slutbucket?

that is my big rant. it's okay to do whatever you want, as long as you are in the mitary. no one questions anhything. I have a 24 year old cousin who has 3 babies by 3 men. she doesn't even keep them, her mom does here in little rock while she goes off and plays/gets knocked up again by someone else, and no one every says a thing beucase she's "a vet".

There are certain benefits that come from being a vet and I wo;uld be the first, to say, they deserve them. But, this woman's slutty behavior ruined her life and everything is okay beccause she's a vet. being a vet doesn't excuse you to be ignorant.
 

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I was just reading about women in the military who will suddenly become pregnant when it's time to ship out to dangerous assignments. And about boat and camp sluts who have sex with hire ups and then use that as leverage to get promotions. The military is rife with that sort of behavior and is unwilling due to political correctness, to properly address it. Such is life. Just don't get involved with those type of women. That's the lesson I took from it.
 

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I hear what you're saying, BB.

And I've seen it, too. People will make excuses for veterans for all kinds of horrible behaviors (fighting, drug addiction, wanton childbearing, etc.).

I'm a vet, and war is hell. I still sometimes wake up in the middle of the night, absolutely soaked in sweat and convinced that I am back in the ****. It usually takes awhile before I realize that I'm home and it's in the past. But it would be dishonorable as hell for me to use my service as an excuse for weak and undisciplined behavior, because I'm a US Marine for the rest of my life, I have to live up to that and set an example.

People who make excuses for vets have their hearts in the right place, but their minds are too prejudiced towards perhaps giving vets too much slack.
 

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amoka said:
Stop watching Oprah
not my choice lol. per the bb h ousehold agreement on december 24th, 2010, becuase there is no horse racing today, I have to watch oprah/whatever else she wants to watch today, if she is to watch the basketball games with me tomororw. figured it couldn't be that bad, hell tom cruise might go ape**** again. I don't know what it is about oprah that women just HAVE to watch it.


JS don't even get me started on drug addiction.
 

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Yo BACKBREAKER,


WARRIOR is right - women do USE the dumb-assed, horny-assed C.O.s to get them "knocked up" to "bail out" of the military duty and to get promotions.

And AMOKA is right too - STOP watching "Oprah" (Dude...it'll only make you MAD...isn't that evident now????) :crackup:




Sorry bro'. Had to mess with you about Oprah "just a little bit". But BACK ON POINT----I think this issue is MUCH larger than one woman-----even OPRAH (pun intended).

I think what we're witnessing here is simply the result of a society that applauds a worldview that frowns on the adoption of ANY KIND of codes of ethics or standards by which people should live by. Both my personal experience and my views into the lives of others has convinced me beyond a shadow of a doubt that MEN must have standards.

Because if MEN have standards------and stick to them, women, children, and society as a whole WILL be forced to live up to those standards as well. It's only as a result of the ground that we've given up in regards to honor, self-respect, and culturally ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR that we are witnessing this seismic shift in what society approves or disapproves of.

It's always been true that one of the first things necessary to usher in a surefire decline in societal standards is for people who HAVE standards to sit back and say and do NOTHING about it. With but a cursory bit of recon in virtual reality (the Internet) and in true reality itself, you will see men, women, and even children under attack all the time--------trying to withstand an onslaught of ridicule and vicious "shaming tactics" designed to shake their resolve or to even make them abandon WHATEVER those things are that they believe in.

And when these tactics work, what is accomplished is that those people's voices are silenced and the voices of the lovers of Political Correctness------fueled by self-interest or perhaps some hidden "profit-driven" motive rises up and takes over the cultural conversation. Which in turn, eliminates dissenting arguments------silencing any true PUBLIC discourse on just how best people can conduct their lives.

In this warped, twisted age of Political Correctness gone WILD, it is now no longer safe to call bullshyt "BULLSHYT"------just like it's also no longer safe to call good shyt "GOOD SHYT".

People are afraid these days-----running scared. GUTLESS.

They're afraid to take ANY hits-----for being "for or against" ANYTHING.

I would argue that SOME have even become SO openminded that their brains have slipped out. We're seeing right before our eyes how people are co-signing, accepting, and FALLING for all kinds of shyt simply because they consistently REFUSE to take a stand for any damn thing.

Why?

Because taking a stand is NOT sexy to everyone.

Taking a stand is, in and of itself, POLARIZING.

And in our part of the world, which is mostly consumer driven, taking a stand can cost you MONEY.

And anybody who subscribes to the above stated belief will most certainly bow their heads and keep their mouths SHUT out of fear, and to avoid WHATEVER they think the negative effects of "taking a stand" might bring their way.

Again, what you're seeing is a kind of "Radioactive Fallout" of a specially designed and crafted "ANYTHING GOES" Bomb that was detonated long ago---------probably sometime around the latter parts of the Sixties decade. Or some other arbitrary era where the "me FIRST" mentality began to eclipse all other considerations and mutated into the "me ONLY" mentality.



A Victory Unlimited SIDE NOTE:

I remember years ago before she died, my 85-year old Grandmother expressed to me how bewildered she was at some of the present-day behavior of women (and men too-----let's be fair here) that she found reprehensible.

About the women of this era, she would make exclamations from time to time about many different subjects. Here, I'll list a few:

About some women's "slutty" behavior:

"Why are they acting like this? Aren't they ashamed?"

About some women's "entitlement" behavior:

"Why do they believe they deserve all that? Do they think a man is going to marry them just because they look good? Do they think that's all they need to be?"

About some women's "out-of-wedlock" pregnancy:

"They're giving her a baby shower? What? She's not married??? Her and the baby's father aren't even dating anymore? I don't understand...what are they celebrating then?"

About the "myth of the strong, independent woman":

"If all they keep saying is that they don't NEED a man, what makes them think a man will even WANT them???"


And the list could go on and on. You get the picture.

I MISS that little old lady, who was drop dead gorgeous in her prime---------yet and still, "she" couldn't quite wrap her brain around the concept of the sliding scale of standards of behavior for women (AND MEN) right before she passed away.

But the purpose of my post is NOT to bash one gender over another, but rather to point out that many times the true state of the health of a society can be measured by examining the current character of the woman.

Why?

Because, as men, LIKE IT OR NOT, oftentimes the character and behavior of our women are a direct result of our letting TOO MUCH shyt slide for TOO GODDAMN long.

But now that we're AT this point, the first step in restoration of our society MUST begin by "us" having standards for what is acceptable and UNACCEPTABLE within our own sphere of influence. And when we TAKE that stand, we MUST be willing to KEEP standing STRONG for those things-------in the face of WHATEVER opposition may come.



Soldier on.


VU
 
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VU said it all.
 
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