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single moms roster was unreal.

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guys, our threads seem to go off on tangents?

Im not advocating doing anything with single moms, neither did I say they were aiming for the top 20%.

The point of my thread is: unless you are the local bruce wayne, you are nothing to a mediocre woman, NOTHING.
They are over drunk on male validation and presence of all styles and shapes.

shes been given 4 versions of you this last 3 months. for purely being behind in life. Hence why the word Submit is Laughed at.
 

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guys, our threads seem to go off on tangents?

Im not advocating doing anything with single moms, neither did I say they were aiming for the top 20%.

The point of my thread is: unless you are the local bruce wayne, you are nothing to a mediocre woman, NOTHING.
They are over drunk on male validation and presence of all styles and shapes.

shes been given 4 versions of you this last 3 months. for purely being behind in life. Hence why the word Submit is Laughed at.
Bro, sorry if I went off on a rant, I understood your OP, I'm actually on the same page as you: we're both trying to drive the point home that single mothers are inherently toxic....
 

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And the biggest cope: "Single moms play less games"........ what a load of BS..... single moms are notorious for playing games and qualifying the men in their circle with idiotic sh/t tests..... Because the female imperative is to find a sucker that will subsidize her and her children's living expenses....
Absolutely, they are the very worst gamers imaginable IME, admittedly my experiences with them are only with 3-4 over the years so YMMV, but all of them were gamey. I have had them try to bring their children around the very next day after first sex, run hot and cold trying to bring you in, every kind of hard to get ruse imaginable, and if you ever get a glimpse of the baby daddies or the dudes they keep in rotation, it is almost never the Chads or Tyrones you think, usually very low class and not particularly attractive or quality men.

EDIT, yes, sorry for the derail OP.
 

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Must be mentioned that OP also made a mistake which is hanging out with women. Even if invited to free food by female neighbors I am saying no. I do not place myself in situations where I’m hanging out with women.

I have no female friends and never will.
Youre choice, I have mine and my daughters best interest at heart, Also after withdrawing from alcohol 1 year ago, no one invites me anywhere, so I was grateful of the offer.
 

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A woman in my street invited me round to her BBQ today, with my daughter.

Upon arriving there was 3 other single moms there. Our Children all know each other, and that suited me as they could hang out.

The moms and I were all chatting throughout the afternoon, I know them all quite well, and they were quite open with things.

Just for observation reasons: Each woman is no more than a 4/10 at most. They arent sexy, drink heavy, no hobbies.
HOWEVER the disheartening part to me, (for all of us men). is the following , guys with half decent lives, mean nothing to them, guys with muscles means nothing to them.

I liked the fact they admitted better guys only want to smash, but its the fact that male self improvement means nothing to them, they have 4 other guys C*ck, the same as you even at 40!

my point of this is,
All those hours in the gym,disciplined food, hobbies, passions, pursuits, + working 10 hours, and a 3/10 wont appreciate you as her guy one bit.

We should be GOD to these women, but it was another day at work to them

They would probably be a bit submissive for the local Bruce wayne.

Good luck Lads lol
Derby mate, this is nothing new.

Single mom's are delusional as ****kkk. Coop is somewhere making another dunk on single mom vids.

Your only mistake is listening to the insanity coming out of their mouth.
 

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True but with more rp aware men in the world at least we can keep women on their toes a little bit. They’re running wild now and totally out of control.
Rp is a lot of nonsensical pedaling rubbish programs and no receipts. Keeping it real. for all the red pill hypergamy rants, these guys are married. not putting in work but got some new ebook to pedal. I saw someone here post roast videos. A lot have no place talking about getting girls. real talk. Most aren't competing today (married). Don't approach. don't pull. Got some 3week YouTube tangent.

Not seeing guys get better game or pull more. But they want to red pill frank lulz.
 

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my point of this is,
All those hours in the gym,disciplined food, hobbies, passions, pursuits, + working 10 hours, and a 3/10 wont appreciate you as her guy one bit.

We should be GOD to these women, but it was another day at work to them
First, a man's hobbies that don't involve traveling or something else that generally requires a decent amount of wealth are generally not regarded as worthy of adding points. Being a cook, though, is generally regarded as being a positive.

Next, hypergamy has made it so that low-quality women like this - moreso since they don't have a biological clock ticking - don't have to settle, and indeed, can get pen!s literally at a moment's notice.

I find this situation similar to learning a foreign language, especially one of the harder ones like Russian. There is a certain low level of competence that can be garnered rather easily, but it is a lot harder to take the next step of really being good in it; being in middle of these levels more or less keeps the speaker in the range of the lower ability. Similarly, unless a man can ascend to true Chad-level (and of course, this requires having Chad's jawline, etc. .. and height :mad: ), he will simply be a striving upper-tier normie that will be stuck only having access to low-level women.
 

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Rp is a lot of nonsensical pedaling rubbish programs and no receipts. Keeping it real. for all the red pill hypergamy rants, these guys are married. not putting in work but got some new ebook to pedal. I saw someone here post roast videos. A lot have no place talking about getting girls. real talk. Most aren't competing today (married). Don't approach. don't pull. Got some 3week YouTube tangent.

Not seeing guys get better game or pull more. But they want to red pill frank lulz.
People "hate" what they dont understand.

Guys like you have no clue about RP because you obviously never had the need for it. Neither would i if i had stick all my life to spinning plates and ONS.

Get into a LTR or marriage, have a kid or two and then we talk about how far you get with your little PUA cheat-sheet.

Getting the girl is for beginners, surviving what comes after is for the pro´s.
 

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They sound somewhat repulsive... odds are they are not getting interest from any guys with their sh@t together and jacked. Kind of like the fat gamers chatting with a hot girl and talking a veiled shot at her “ we don’t go for attractive girls” I’ve encountered this myself and it’s usually the girls that have nothing going for them.. I hear you must be high maintenance, guys like you are too into yourself... on and on... and I usually realize at some point in the conversation I have no interest in these girls...why am I even entertaining them.

any girl can have multiple c0cks waiting for her... there is always a gaggle of simps waiting!
100%

If they are 4/10 then there is not a chance in hell they are getting any attention from any males that are worth having , i know i wouldn't even entertain a 4/10 let alone show interest / value to her and i can't imagine many other guys would either

They are bitter and are projecting their bitterness onto you
 

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You guys are some players and you're worried about what some 4s think at a backyard BBQ?
, I am a 38 year old father,who is concerned for masculinity. I stick up for what I believe in. I would like to set a good example for the daughter and still enter an LTR.

I still dont think people have got the point of my post, if you ever enter an LTR with a woman 3 points lower SMV than you, dont think for one second shes going to be over the moon, at this self improved catch, shes got.

This thoroughly disappoints me for good men. I think its disgusting, I believe a woman 3 points lower than you should be doing back flips at the deal she would get if you ever considered her. so on this basis that means a mediocre 6 would probably get a little dopamine hit if a blue tick instagram guy messaged her, but nothing else.
 

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, I am a 38 year old father,who is concerned for masculinity. I stick up for what I believe in. I would like to set a good example for the daughter and still enter an LTR.

I still dont think people have got the point of my post, if you ever enter an LTR with a woman 3 points lower SMV than you, dont think for one second shes going to be over the moon, at this self improved catch, shes got.

This thoroughly disappoints me for good men. I think its disgusting, I believe a woman 3 points lower than you should be doing back flips at the deal she would get if you ever considered her. so on this basis that means a mediocre 6 would probably get a little dopamine hit if a blue tick instagram guy messaged her, but nothing else.

Let that inbound world economy crisis hit home and watch women lose their shiat left and right over the government not being able to suport their hoe-lifestile anymore. They will be all over the "good men" again, looking for provision and safety for them and their kids.

Just wait for it, the tide will turn.
 

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Like I've said before... I think this will change when prostitution becomes legal. You can't have a vast majority of guys not having sex without a major movement as a result. When this happens, it will lower the value of all women. They will now be getting less and less attention from guys who'd rather say "I've got more money than time for these low class stuck up broads." Then they will start going to brothels instead of entertaining these women. Hopefully this happens relatively quick as the coming back to reality for all females should make it easier for DJs.
another thing.

realistically, what is going through business now is the end game of woke. Multiple promotions, gender mix, allowing women part time work on huge money.

what will come next is men will en masse question the deal they get: family courts, health services, workplace risk etc.

The thing which will change the game is shared parental leave. If they allow men that, it is acknowledging that males have a role in parenthood. At the moment, the system will have to acknowledge that a man has a role.

They will try, but won’t be able to defend the privilege women get with marriage and children. They can’t, it’s demonstrably sexist.

that will then change everything.

plus, men in the west are now seeing those promotions, all this leg up stuff happening and for once “male feminists” will have to pay the price of their views and not just shovel the cost on someone else. They will change. They will start to question it.

I recently saw a comment, made with no irony from a woman writing an article on how career breaks for women are so unfair (when having children).

she said “a woman has all the cost to her wealth and career as a result of having children. Men have little to no risk”

the absolute cheek of this women, the mind numbing self centredness. Your wife can screw the neighbour and regardless it’s you giving up most of your wealth, child support slavery for 20 years....you don’t think that’s a risk? Even if you’re happily married - you think that men do no childcare and just work and sit in the chair? The arrogance of these people.
 

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I still dont think people have got the point of my post, if you ever enter an LTR with a woman 3 points lower SMV than you, dont think for one second shes going to be over the moon, at this self improved catch, shes got.
True. This is why I don't do relationships.

Look I'm not preaching against getting into LTR relationships with chicks, ALL I'm saying is that if you do, does not mean you are done working to keep it going.

I am selfish and a bit too busy to maintain a relationship... I honestly do not have the time or energy for it.

You can make it work with one of these chicks... but you have to work for it. It is the art of putting in JUST ENOUGH effort to keep her happy without over doing it. The best way to do this is to always insist on some reciprocity. While she is operating to see just how much she can get from you: the man should be seeing just how much effort she is willing to put in to keep you.

The concept is simple... no 'partnership' works unless both parties see the situation as a 'win-win', but just like in business deals maintaining this takes effort.
 
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