Sick of Constant C***-blocking - How to Deal with C***-blocks

[spinaroonie]

So I hit up the local campus bar/club/watering hole at the university.

Recap from last night -

I open two girls. Run my game. One's hooked. About 5 minutes in, her friend asks "hey do you want to go find Lisa?" Pulls my girl away.

I open another two girls. Run my game. One's hooked. About 5 minutes in, her friend pulls her away to go dance.

With both sets of girls, I barely had 5 minutes to spit my game before I got c-blocked. And both times, the girl I was targetting was interested and was engaged in what I had to say, but the friend either got bored or jealous from a lack of attention, and pulled my girl away. Neither even acknowledged me as they left.

This happens every night I go out.

WTF? Why do we let girls get away with this sh*t? How does a playa deal with this?

Conventional wisdom dictates that one should win over the friend first, and then ask the friend for "permission" to isolate your target. But in an overstimulated environment like a club - with the constant interrupts, cell phones, texting, loud music, dancing, "all guys are creepers", "girls night out","we're lesbian" etc. - this is pretty ****ing hard.

Keeping the attention of even ONE 20 year old girl with the attention span of a fruitfly is a monumental struggle; engaging 2-3+ ADD club girls and keeping them hooked when you can barely be heard is a damn near Herculean epic.

So for the DJs here, how do you deal with c*ckblocks?

 

[zekko]

I open two girls. Run my game. One's hooked. About 5 minutes in, her friend asks "hey do you want to go find Lisa?" Pulls my girl away.

I open another two girls. Run my game. One's hooked. About 5 minutes in, her friend pulls her away to go dance.

Look at this from the girl's perspective. She's out, her friend meets this guy and it's apparent there's some attraction. All of a sudden she's the fifth wheel, which is no fun. She's probably bored, and perhaps a little irritated. If she's the lesser attractive of the two she's probably been in this situation more times than she cares to be. So she wants to end this interaction as soon as possible. That's why it helps to have a wingman to pacify the girl's friend.

 

[spinaroonie]

Look at this from the girl's perspective. She's out, her friend meets this guy and it's apparent there's some attraction. All of a sudden she's the fifth wheel, which is no fun. She's probably bored, and perhaps a little irritated. If she's the lesser attractive of the two she's probably been in this situation more times than she cares to be. So she wants to end this interaction as soon as possible. That's why it helps to have a wingman to pacify the girl's friend.

Or look at it from another perspective. Cindy is a good friend of Susan. Susan's been single for a long time. She's starting to wonder if there are any good men out there. A man approaches them at the bar. He seems warm, friendly, interesting, handsome. Susan seems to really have hit it off with him. They're laughing and seem to have a good connection. As her good friend, Cindy is genuinely happy for Susan. She lets them chat.

 

[PapiChulo]

You need a good wingman- thats a given.
Also you might have to be a bit more assertive, like isolating her away from all the ****-blocks, i.e. grab her hand and lead her away and work hard and fast with it, because they will text her and find her.

 

[lifeislearning]

Or look at it from another perspective. Cindy is a good friend of Susan. Susan's been single for a long time. She's starting to wonder if there are any good men out there. A man approaches them at the bar. He seems warm, friendly, interesting, handsome. Susan seems to really have hit it off with him. They're laughing and seem to have a good connection. As her good friend, Cindy is genuinely happy for Susan. She lets them chat.

Have you ever met a woman? This will never, ever go through their mind. The only time this might occur could be with an older and very mature woman, and there would still be many more neuroses like, "Does he think she's prettier than me," "This guy looks like my creeper ex," "Of course he talks to her, her boobs are bigger" etc, etc going through her mind and directing her to grab her friend and ditch you.

Imagine you are out with a friend who is having a good time and you're not. What do you do? You don't say, "Oh well, he's having fun, I'll leave him alone." Hopefully you walk over and try to join the good time right? Women will do the same time and again regardless of how close you and her friend are getting.

It is not difficult to make a conversation interesting for a number of women, however short their attention span may be. Set the tone early that you are the focus of attention and if all the girls are not paying direct attention to you they should atleast be ready for the next hilarious comment/story/action from you. Just because its time to dance doesn't mean you can't join. If you don't want to dance, invite the friend to hear the crazy story you were about to tell. Do not forget you do not have to lead every moment of interaction to be the leader of the night. You don't always have to be talking and be interesting, allow the girls to get involved too. Roll with the direction of the night.

One night I let drunk ass girlfriend of my interest rip on me for a good ten minutes while I laughed and gave her tips on what to criticize next. Eventually she realized she couldn't piss me off and I became part of the group. Many other guys would have had their pride hurt and left, but it only cemented the fact that I was going home with their friend and nothing they could do would change that.

 

[PapiChulo]

good stuff above

 

[Masculinity]

This is an interesting question. I hate being c*ck blocked by the DFF (Designated Fat Friend,) who always takes away the babe you're gaming. What makes it even worse, is that they take the cutie away when she is INTO what your game and giving you IOI's.

I met an ex-girlfriend at a club about two years ago. She and her friend were siting down and came over and immediately started talking to hb8 (friend was hb8, but not my type). After building some rapport for 1-2 minutes I pulled both of them to come dance. Her friend was like 6ft and I'm 6ft too, so I managed to pull it off, but some other guys were chickening out haha. I sandwiched myself in between them and danced with both while pretending as if they were trying to seduce me. It was amazing, these girls were having alooot of fun, not to mention the guys standing around were looking at me with the "Bastard!" look, haha.

2-3 guys tried to steal my hb8 as I danced with the tall girl and I just came next to the girl and told them she was my girl and to stay away and they'd say "Ohhh..my bad bro" while the girls cracked up. Also, if you "save" them from creepy guys, you automatically become the cool guy. Each time I scared another guy away, my hb8 game the "daaam you're the man" looks. You have to SHOW you're a dominating male and that you stand for what's yours. When you take care of her, she also feels protected.

Long story short, that girl and I dated for 2 years after she asked me to be her boyfriend. I moved out of state, stayed with her and 2 months later she said she wasn't strong enough; I dumper her that same day and did NC. Three days later she calls me saying sorry and that she made a wrong choice. :yes: She is currently awaiting for my return to see me and stays loyal to me =]

Try out my technique, it works veeery well! Looking forward to your success! =]

A note to all c*ck blocks! ---->:moon: :moon: :moon: :moon: :moon:

 

[HeyPachuco!]

You escalate. If you have to walk across the street, with them, you do it.

Tonality is your bestfriend here. I was getting ****blocked by several girls over the girl I wanted, I just broke down all their shields, by following, still talking, loudly and showing that I wasn't giving up, the next thing I know, I was making out with the chick I wanted, keep pushing. Even if you hear F*ck Off. It's all funny.

 

[loveshogun]

You could just ask the girl to dance. Doesn't take 5 minutes, either.

Ask her in the following way: "Dance with me."

 

[spinaroonie]

I suppose my frustration lies in losing* girls immediately at the "icebreaker" step, before I can even start running my attraction game" about 5 minutes in. It ticks me off when I get c*ck-blocked before I can even make my pitch.

I understand the "win over the friends first" premise on priciple. Usually I make an honest effort to address ALL the girls in the group, but I'm finding that factors out of my control - loud music, texting, constant interrupts, ADD & short attention spans - constantly get in the way. And there's the obligatory Debbie downer/mother hen of the group who'll simply refuse to engage and make things unnecessarily difficult.

I usually game with a wingman. Usually these sets last longer, but they tend to fizzle after 10-15 minutes - at which point my wingman loses the interest of his girl and she'll leave the set, pulling my girl away with her. This tends to happen before I can get to the point of isolation. Maybe I need a competent wingman that can hold his own in set and keep the obstacles occupied.

 

[GoodButNotGreat]

where are u from spinaroonie?

 

[spinaroonie]

Ontario.

 

[Tovansky]

I like what Robyn923b said. I would say different thing, but his response might be the best and very worth trying. I bet it's gonna go well.

As for me, it's a club right? it's big. If you get a wingman to keep the other woman busy, use that time to take your girl somewhere farther where you won't be found out easily. You can prolong the time you dealing with your girl to seal the deal (at least get a number).

 

[slaog]

I suppose my frustration lies in losing* girls immediately at the "icebreaker" step, before I can even start running my attraction game" about 5 minutes in. It ticks me off when I get c*ck-blocked before I can even make my pitch.

I understand the "win over the friends first" premise on priciple. Usually I make an honest effort to address ALL the girls in the group, but I'm finding that factors out of my control - loud music, texting, constant interrupts, ADD & short attention spans - constantly get in the way. And there's the obligatory Debbie downer/mother hen of the group who'll simply refuse to engage and make things unnecessarily difficult.

I usually game with a wingman. Usually these sets last longer, but they tend to fizzle after 10-15 minutes - at which point my wingman loses the interest of his girl and she'll leave the set, pulling my girl away with her. This tends to happen before I can get to the point of isolation. Maybe I need a competent wingman that can hold his own in set and keep the obstacles occupied.

Win the mother hen over and you'll have easy access to the group. Find out something she likes and talk about it. Or give her a nice comment. On a night out all sorts of guys are approaching women looking for sex mainly so their friends would also be aware of that. And alot of men who chat up the attractive girl just ignore all the other girls so its obvious those men are pretending to be nice.


Theres lots of ways of winning over the friends and some good advice has already been given so good luck with it!