Sick of all these chicks pushing for dinner

[asa_don]

Starting to think I might not even been dating anyone in this year. All these fvcking chicks I ask out always tried to push for dinner over text after I told them drinks...Needless to say I broke it off since I refuse to be a free meal ticket. 5 confirmed dates, all tried to push for dinner and I told them to take a hike. Wtf?

sounds like they don't have much interest in you other than to get a free meal, first dates should be cheap, don't spend more money than you have to.

Dude... the reason they're turning down your request for drinks is because the date idea itself makes them think you're just trying to get them drunk to have sex with them. It's also because the date itself doesn't show much effort. You're mad at the idea of having to spend, what, possibly $40 on a meal (half of which is paying for your portion of the meal)? Meanwhile, she's thinking that she's going to spend at least $100 to start on getting her hair done, plus another $75 to $100 on a new outfit, $50 on new shoes (that's being generous), $50 on perfume (also being generous) and hour getting her make up just right... and you can't spend $40 taking her out to dinner?

Good grief. Find some cheap-yet-nice-looking places around town and take her to a friggin' meal already.

this crap response from you harry makes you sound like you don't know what the fvck you're talkng about.

so a chick is going to spend over $300 on each date she goes on? :crackup:

if a chick goes on 4 dates a month she is going to buy a new outfit, buy some new perfume, new shoes, get her hair done for each new date? over $1200 on dates harry?

i thought you were an online dating expert harry, chicks specifically say on their profiles they prefer drinks for their first date, it's quick and simple, if either person isn't interested it's easy to end the date early.

Harry just lost all credibility with that reply...I've never had a woman push me for dinner...I'd take it as a sign they aren't interested and just trying to get a free meal...FWIW

i never thought much of harry wilimington, he lost his credibility a long time ago.

I'm beginning to think you might be a woman.

i've always thought that since his posts always lean towards a female point of view.

 

[Harry Wilmington]

Hadn't checked out this post since I first posted on it. Now that I've lost all credibility, lol...

For starters, the response I posted was not pushing for him to do a dinner date as a first date. What I did was give a reasoning to what women are thinking in their head when a guy offers "drinks" as a first date. Allow me to quote myself:

Dude... the reason they're turning down your request for drinks is because the date idea itself makes them think you're just trying to get them drunk to have sex with them. It's also because the date itself doesn't show much effort. You're mad at the idea of having to spend, what, possibly $40 on a meal (half of which is paying for your portion of the meal)? Meanwhile, she's thinking that she's going to spend at least $100 to start on getting her hair done, plus another $75 to $100 on a new outfit, $50 on new shoes (that's being generous), $50 on perfume (also being generous) and hour getting her make up just right... and you can't spend $40 taking her out to dinner?

Now, as someone stated on here before, most of the dating I've done was online dating; when presenting date ideas to women online, the majority of the time it would be to meet at a coffee shop. The only time I'd offer dinner is if I was hungry and already going to get food but wanted to continue the convo (thus, not coming off as a "white knight" trying to serve her, but as a confident guy who... well... just happen to be hungry in the moment, lol).

And so, that's what I continue to recommend as a first "get to know you" date. This barely counts as a date, but is necessary to build up rapport with someone you haven't met in person yet. Now, for women that you HAVE already met up with, I recommend doing a plethora of other activities outside of a sit-down-and-chat-with-food date...

However, that's not what the OP's post was about.

What he was proposing was a meet up that only involved alcohol, which the majority of girls are going to turn down. Why? The first thought that pops in their head when you present this kind of date is "Oh, he just wants to get me drunk and have sex... and that's it?? Is that ALL he's about?? I need to see if that's the case - let me see what happens if I ask him to take me out on a REAL date with food. If he turns it down, it WAS just about sex for him and not about getting to know me." (Also, her wanting to have food in her system makes sense if you think about it - a woman that's not trying to get drunk and show out on a first date probably wants something else in her stomach to soak the alcohol up.)

So, for the record, I'm not SAYING that you HAVE to take a girl out to dinner on a first date. What I AM saying, though, is that if you're not going to offer coffee (as a first for girls you're meeting online ONLY) or an activity (as part of the "real" first date), and are instead just offering drinks, understand she's going to feel some way about it and will probably ask for an upgrade. Whether or not you choose to do so is up to you, but if you're trying to go the drinks route, at least go someplace that has a happy hour with cheap appetizers or low-priced food. (I also hear tapas is a pretty good option.)

 

[marmel75]

Hadn't checked out this post since I first posted on it. Now that I've lost all credibility, lol...

For starters, the response I posted was not pushing for him to do a dinner date as a first date. What I did was give a reasoning to what women are thinking in their head when a guy offers "drinks" as a first date. Allow me to quote myself:




Now, as someone stated on here before, most of the dating I've done was online dating; when presenting date ideas to women online, the majority of the time it would be to meet at a coffee shop. The only time I'd offer dinner is if I was hungry and already going to get food but wanted to continue the convo (thus, not coming off as a "white knight" trying to serve her, but as a confident guy who... well... just happen to be hungry in the moment, lol).

And so, that's what I continue to recommend as a first "get to know you" date. This barely counts as a date, but is necessary to build up rapport with someone you haven't met in person yet. Now, for women that you HAVE already met up with, I recommend doing a plethora of other activities outside of a sit-down-and-chat-with-food date...

However, that's not what the OP's post was about.

What he was proposing was a meet up that only involved alcohol, which the majority of girls are going to turn down. Why? The first thought that pops in their head when you present this kind of date is "Oh, he just wants to get me drunk and have sex... and that's it?? Is that ALL he's about?? I need to see if that's the case - let me see what happens if I ask him to take me out on a REAL date with food. If he turns it down, it WAS just about sex for him and not about getting to know me." (Also, her wanting to have food in her system makes sense if you think about it - a woman that's not trying to get drunk and show out on a first date probably wants something else in her stomach to soak the alcohol up.)

So, for the record, I'm not SAYING that you HAVE to take a girl out to dinner on a first date. What I AM saying, though, is that if you're not going to offer coffee (as a first for girls you're meeting online ONLY) or an activity (as part of the "real" first date), and are instead just offering drinks, understand she's going to feel some way about it and will probably ask for an upgrade. Whether or not you choose to do so is up to you, but if you're trying to go the drinks route, at least go someplace that has a happy hour with cheap appetizers or low-priced food. (I also hear tapas is a pretty good option.)

Again that's just simply false. ALMOST EVERY OLD I went on, and there were many(over 50), involved meeting for drinks. Never once did I have a woman suggest something else, and definitely not dinner. Like a poster above referenced, most profiles say "something simple like coffee or drinks" for a first date, so what sense does it make they would then not want that???

C'mon bro, do better than that.

 

[asa_don]

if a chick digs you she should be happy doing anything with you, not pushing for free dinners trying to get something more out of you.

Hadn't checked out this post since I first posted on it. Now that I've lost all credibility, lol...

For starters, the response I posted was not pushing for him to do a dinner date as a first date. What I did was give a reasoning to what women are thinking in their head when a guy offers "drinks" as a first date. Allow me to quote myself:

Dude... the reason they're turning down your request for drinks is because the date idea itself makes them think you're just trying to get them drunk to have sex with them. It's also because the date itself doesn't show much effort. You're mad at the idea of having to spend, what, possibly $40 on a meal (half of which is paying for your portion of the meal)? Meanwhile, she's thinking that she's going to spend at least $100 to start on getting her hair done, plus another $75 to $100 on a new outfit, $50 on new shoes (that's being generous), $50 on perfume (also being generous) and hour getting her make up just right... and you can't spend $40 taking her out to dinner?

Now, as someone stated on here before, most of the dating I've done was online dating; when presenting date ideas to women online, the majority of the time it would be to meet at a coffee shop. The only time I'd offer dinner is if I was hungry and already going to get food but wanted to continue the convo (thus, not coming off as a "white knight" trying to serve her, but as a confident guy who... well... just happen to be hungry in the moment, lol).

that's not what you said harry, you wanted the op to buy these chicks free dinners because they wanted it.

cut the crap harry, you were trying to make the op sound cheap for not taking these chicks out for the free dinners they're pushing for, insinuating they're spending over $300 on themselves on new oufits, shoes, perfume etc. for each new date they go on.

And so, that's what I continue to recommend as a first "get to know you" date. This barely counts as a date, but is necessary to build up rapport with someone you haven't met in person yet. Now, for women that you HAVE already met up with, I recommend doing a plethora of other activities outside of a sit-down-and-chat-with-food date...

However, that's not what the OP's post was about.

What he was proposing was a meet up that only involved alcohol, which the majority of girls are going to turn down. Why? The first thought that pops in their head when you present this kind of date is "Oh, he just wants to get me drunk and have sex... and that's it?? Is that ALL he's about?? I need to see if that's the case - let me see what happens if I ask him to take me out on a REAL date with food. If he turns it down, it WAS just about sex for him and not about getting to know me." (Also, her wanting to have food in her system makes sense if you think about it - a woman that's not trying to get drunk and show out on a first date probably wants something else in her stomach to soak the alcohol up.)

harry is still thinking about what's best for the woman again lol.

one drink isn't going to make a chick drunk harry, women on their online dating profiles all say "let's grab drinks", looks like harry hasn't done much online dating or hasn't bothered to read many profiles to know what the chicks prefer.

So, for the record, I'm not SAYING that you HAVE to take a girl out to dinner on a first date. What I AM saying, though, is that if you're not going to offer coffee (as a first for girls you're meeting online ONLY) or an activity (as part of the "real" first date), and are instead just offering drinks, understand she's going to feel some way about it and will probably ask for an upgrade. Whether or not you choose to do so is up to you, but if you're trying to go the drinks route, at least go someplace that has a happy hour with cheap appetizers or low-priced food. (I also hear tapas is a pretty good option.)

why is it so important to you to buy chicks food on the first date?

the date should be about you and the girl, not worrying about giving her an "upgrade" she doesn't need.

harry still continues to post with a female attitude wanting what is best for the woman, a white knight who's purpose is to serve the woman.

 

[amazingswayze]

Hadn't checked out this post since I first posted on it. Now that I've lost all credibility, lol...

Seems like it...

 

[Harry Wilmington]

Again that's just simply false. ALMOST EVERY OLD I went on, and there were many(over 50), involved meeting for drinks. Never once did I have a woman suggest something else, and definitely not dinner. Like a poster above referenced, most profiles say "something simple like coffee or drinks" for a first date, so what sense does it make they would then not want that???

That's great! And if that's your experience, kudos to you for getting it to work. However, my response is based on the OP's situation, which is girls not agreeing to getting drinks and the mindset they may have for turning said offer down. All my first dates (and again, by "first date" i mean "first getting-to-know-you meet up - the 2nd date is the "real" first date) involved either a coffee shop, bookstore or, if I was hungry, dinner at an inexpensive place (like a pizza or taco place, $20 or less for the whole meal).

Also - for those that read post regularly, I do things for dates with the intent of hoping it works out for a relationship. Therefore, i don't feel the probability of having a situation workout long term with a woman is that high when only doing alcohol on a first date. You said you had over 50 first dates where you took women out for drinks; I'd be curious as to how many of those ended up being relationships that lasted 6 months or longer. Me, I stuck to what I do for first dates, and thus far the last few girls I took out on the dates mentioned ended up being in relationships with me for at least a year (with the current relationship just having passed the 3 year mark) before I broke it off.

And to asa_don's point: I get at this point he doesn't like my advice or believe in what I'm talking about, and that's cool. But again - thus far it's gotten me results I've been pretty happy with, so that's what I share with people. If it's not for you, there are plenty of other people you could be spending time agreeing with, instead of focusing your typing and energy on putting down my stuff. I'm just trying to help guys get the long-term win; if people are focusing more on the short-term win, then do me a favor people and DON'T LISTEN TO A SINGLE THING I SAY. I don't want to block anyone's short-term happiness :crackup:

 

[marmel75]

That's great! And if that's your experience, kudos to you for getting it to work. However, my response is based on the OP's situation, which is girls not agreeing to getting drinks and the mindset they may have for turning said offer down. All my first dates (and again, by "first date" i mean "first getting-to-know-you meet up - the 2nd date is the "real" first date) involved either a coffee shop, bookstore or, if I was hungry, dinner at an inexpensive place (like a pizza or taco place, $20 or less for the whole meal).

Also - for those that read post regularly, I do things for dates with the intent of hoping it works out for a relationship. Therefore, i don't feel the probability of having a situation workout long term with a woman is that high when only doing alcohol on a first date. You said you had over 50 first dates where you took women out for drinks; I'd be curious as to how many of those ended up being relationships that lasted 6 months or longer. Me, I stuck to what I do for first dates, and thus far the last few girls I took out on the dates mentioned ended up being in relationships with me for at least a year (with the current relationship just having passed the 3 year mark) before I broke it off.

And to asa_don's point: I get at this point he doesn't like my advice or believe in what I'm talking about, and that's cool. But again - thus far it's gotten me results I've been pretty happy with, so that's what I share with people. If it's not for you, there are plenty of other people you could be spending time agreeing with, instead of focusing your typing and energy on putting down my stuff. I'm just trying to help guys get the long-term win; if people are focusing more on the short-term win, then do me a favor people and DON'T LISTEN TO A SINGLE THING I SAY. I don't want to block anyone's short-term happiness :crackup:

None cause I was married, lmao!

Banged them for a few weeks to a month until they started getting clingy and wanting more of time and more info, then bounced to the next one. Probably 10-12 chicks total, so I banged about 1 out of every 4 I met relatively quickly(by the 2nd date most, think I had one on the 3rd date) using this method, which was all I was looking for. And probably 10 of those 50 something I didn't even try to bang because of one reason or another(overweight more than pics, attitude, boring, etc).

The OP isn't having an issue because he is offering drinks, the OP is having an issue because they see him as a dude they can manipulate into a free meal while having no actual interest in any type of sexual relationship BEFORE they even go on the date. Its one thing if HE offers to take them to dinner, a whole different thing when THEY expect a dinner. That to me signals ZERO sexual interest and its something he is doing that is causing it.

 

[Poonani Maker]

Because $10 - 20 is nothing to me, I can easily buy a woman a dinner together, and quite a few feel obligated to make out because of it, when I expect nothing in return, because I GIVE like $2 or more (in snacks, coffee, an electrolite drink, whatever) to "lower paid" co-workers and customers I see daily whenever I feel like it. I'm generous to others I come into contact with daily, and Yes, like Pavlov's dogs, they come to Expect a bone or a treat everytime I come around. It's funny seeing how "Dogish" people (Americans) really ARE. I can even tell the Whimper when I Don't give them anything when they see me. It's so bizarre that HUMANS can be so trained Exactly like fvcking Dogs. I mean, I do not believe that it used to be this way back when people (today, Americans mostly) were less animalistic. Kinda sad, but it's been my experience of late, honest to God. I understand Real Dogs going crazy spinning and turning and rolling, but Humans are starting to become dogs more and more.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Because $10 - 20 is nothing to me, I can easily buy a woman a dinner together, and quite a few feel obligated to make out because of it, when I expect nothing in return, because I GIVE like $2 or more (in snacks, coffee, an electrolite drink, whatever) to "lower paid" co-workers and customers I see daily whenever I feel like it. I'm generous to others I come into contact with daily, and Yes, like Pavlov's dogs, they come to Expect a bone or a treat everytime I come around. It's funny seeing how "Dogish" people (Americans) really ARE. I can even tell the Whimper when I Don't give them anything when they see me. It's so bizarre that HUMANS can be so trained Exactly like fvcking Dogs. I mean, I do not believe that it used to be this way back when people (today, Americans mostly) were less animalistic. Kinda sad, but it's been my experience of late, honest to God. I understand Real Dogs going crazy spinning and turning and rolling, but Humans are starting to become dogs more and more.

Were men "less" or "more" animalistic during slavery than today or not?

We can go back in time and there are some very barbaric practices in various societies that were normal.

 

[asa_don]

That's great! And if that's your experience, kudos to you for getting it to work. However, my response is based on the OP's situation, which is girls not agreeing to getting drinks and the mindset they may have for turning said offer down. All my first dates (and again, by "first date" i mean "first getting-to-know-you meet up - the 2nd date is the "real" first date) involved either a coffee shop, bookstore or, if I was hungry, dinner at an inexpensive place (like a pizza or taco place, $20 or less for the whole meal).

harry still insists on buying women food for the first "date", i've never seen anything like it.

food isn't a requirement when you go out with a chick harry, the women are turning him down for drinks because they expect more from him, only wanting a free meal out of him, the women are trying to use him, if you had experience you would pick up on that.

Also - for those that read post regularly, I do things for dates with the intent of hoping it works out for a relationship. Therefore, i don't feel the probability of having a situation workout long term with a woman is that high when only doing alcohol on a first date.

women who are pushing to get a free meal is not good relationship material.

that's your opinion harry, just sitting and talking on the first "date" can have a good probability of a long term relationship, it's not the date or the food you buy, it's the chemistry and attraction that makes a relationship happen.

Me, I stuck to what I do for first dates, and thus far the last few girls I took out on the dates mentioned ended up being in relationships with me for at least a year (with the current relationship just having passed the 3 year mark) before I broke it off.

you should stick to what you do instead of pushing your methods on others like you do with your products you try to sell in the forum.

obviously she wasn't that great if you broke it off, why didn't you use your relationship "methods" to make it work?

And to asa_don's point: I get at this point he doesn't like my advice or believe in what I'm talking about, and that's cool. But again - thus far it's gotten me results I've been pretty happy with, so that's what I share with people. If it's not for you, there are plenty of other people you could be spending time agreeing with, instead of focusing your typing and energy on putting down my stuff. I'm just trying to help guys get the long-term win; if people are focusing more on the short-term win, then do me a favor people and DON'T LISTEN TO A SINGLE THING I SAY. I don't want to block anyone's short-term happiness :crackup:

harry always feigns indignation when someone disagrees with his bad advice believing his advice is the only way it can be done.

when you claim chicks are spending over $300 on each new date they go on i'm gonna say you're full of sh!t and you are.

i can agree with others and point out when you are wrong harry, that's what this forum is for, sounds like you don't want anyone to criticize your bad advice.

you aren't helping guys with any "long term wins" wanting them to cave into women's demands of only wanting a free meal, no long term relationships are gonna happen since the women are using them for their own gain.

going out for drinks on the first date harry doesn't mean you won't have a long term relationship only looking for short term results.

 

[Poonani Maker]

Were men "less" or "more" animalistic during slavery than today or not?

We can go back in time and there are some very barbaric practices in various societies that were normal.

There is still slavery today. What are you talking about?? There are Many things you can not say, as a matter of opinion and honest observation of facts. "The Truth is no defense" is being enacted in a slew of countries, including the US, today. Slavery is not being able to express an honest opinion.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

There is still slavery today. What are you talking about?? There are Many things you can not say, as a matter of opinion and honest observation of facts. "The Truth is no defense" is being enacted in a slew of countries, including the US, today. Slavery is not being able to express an honest opinion.

Part of slavery was torture and mutilation of slaves and rape of female slaves. It wasn't an antiseptically clean operation. There was tons of blood lust and evil. It was not just the masters, but the slave drivers and those who enacted lynchings.

A large part of the populous, cold, stone hearted and wanting to see blood and human pain and sufferage. It was allowed to occur.

It's well documented, you have to choose to look at the facts.

 

[Harry Wilmington]

My personal opinion is, they already think that guys want to fvuck them--even before they even get invited out for a drink.

Just think about it: a woman can walk down the street, and she can get ego boosts thinking that the men who pass by and look at her want to fvuck her. This is not a bad thing by the way. I don't think a man should ever hide behind or mitigate his sexual intentions.

I agree - I don't think men should hide it either. I think the problem most guys have is that's the ONLY thing they're trying to show a woman.

With that said: what most guys fail to remember is that even if women WANT to have sex on a first/second date as much as men do, it's harder for them to later justify to her peers/family why she would sleep with a guy on a first date. So, part of turning down the drinks as a first date could be because they don't want to be viewed by others as a slvt, like "Oh right, you agreed to drinks and DIDN'T think sex was going to happen? GTFOH!"

As Jack Sparrow would say: "A gentlemen allows a lady to maintain her fiction." In other words, whatever story she needs to have in order to justify her actions, you must let her have. So, she might very well need the story of how she met up with you and were just meeting up for dinner, and you had some light drinks, and the convo was just SO great, and then as the night was ending YOU made the move to kiss her, and the next thing she knew, you two were hooking up.

That's not a bad story to have, and most other women who hear that would be like, "Oh, I get it - the mood was set, he was smooth, and your emotions just got the best of you." As opposed to the other story: "We went out for drinks, I got sloshed, and I went back to his place." THAT story has "slvt" written all over it, lol

To your point, though: the majority of women I slept with didn't require much in the way of spending excessive money. Heck, I went on a first date one time where the GIRL paid for the movie we saw, and I ended up hooking up with her BEFORE we had a proper second date. So, none of what I was trying to tell this guy was saying he HAD to spend money. My thought was just, if he's going to spend the money anyway, drinks isn't the best suggestion. Most drinks costs a minimum $10 (that's being generous), so if both people only got 2 drinks he's still be spending $40. Which means, the issue for him isn't actually the money being spent - and that's the girls' rationale: if you're already going to spend the money, why not take 'em someplace where they can get food AND drink, and have it be the same price, AND have it be someplace where the two of them can sit across from each other and have a convo, vs. a noisy bar where they're probably sitting next to a bunch of other people and it's not as intimate?

Makes sense to me!

 

[Poonani Maker]

Part of slavery was torture and mutilation of slaves and rape of female slaves. It wasn't an antiseptically clean operation. There was tons of blood lust and evil. It was not just the masters, but the slave drivers and those who enacted lynchings.

A large part of the populous, cold, stone hearted and wanting to see blood and human pain and sufferage. It was allowed to occur.

It's well documented, you have to choose to look at the facts.

1% owned slaves, and Slaves, after they were "freed," quite a few, especially during the Great Depression, preferred the luxury of the plantation life. That would have made them in their 70s during the Great Depression, but they remembered, and it is documented as FACT.

 

[zekko]

Most drinks costs a minimum $10 (that's being generous), so if both people only got 2 drinks he's still be spending $40

That's what I was saying - I don't see where going out for drinks is necessarily cheaper than going out to eat. In fact, when you go out to eat, the most expensive thing is usually the alcohol (except I don't drink anymore). I don't think this argument is really about money. Your coffee idea, which is your true recommendation, is probably the cheapest date.

Now if you both go and just have a beer, I guess that's cheaper. But I don't know too many people who stop at one beer.

I think what you're missing, Harry, is that most OLD chicks are just out for sex anyway, from what I understand, so they're not going to object to drinks. Shoot, most alcoholic girls I know would insist on it. They're low hanging fruit for sex, IMO.

But I get your point. They say here "Food = sleep, drinks = sex". I'm sure women are aware of that. If they're DTF, like I imagine most OLD women are, they're probably cool with the drinks. But if they're not, the "I will only meet you for drinks" idea will set off some alarm bells in their head.

But most guys here on SoSuave aren't interested in a woman who wouldn't put out on the first meetup anyway. Then they complain about all women being low quality slvts, lol.

 

[marmel75]

That's what I was saying - I don't see where going out for drinks is necessarily cheaper than going out to eat. In fact, when you go out to eat, the most expensive thing is usually the alcohol (except I don't drink anymore). I don't think this argument is really about money. Your coffee idea, which is your true recommendation, is probably the cheapest date.

Now if you both go and just have a beer, I guess that's cheaper. But I don't know too many people who stop at one beer.

I think what you're missing, Harry, is that most OLD chicks are just out for sex anyway, from what I understand, so they're not going to object to drinks. Shoot, most alcoholic girls I know would insist on it. They're low hanging fruit for sex, IMO.

But I get your point. They say here "Food = sleep, drinks = sex". I'm sure women are aware of that. If they're DTF, like I imagine most OLD women are, they're probably cool with the drinks. But if they're not, the "I will only meet you for drinks" idea will set off some alarm bells in their head.

But most guys here on SoSuave aren't interested in a woman who wouldn't put out on the first meetup anyway. Then they complain about all women being low quality slvts, lol.

Where the fvck do you live where a drink costs $10???

And that's why you challenge them to a game of darts and make a bet that loser buys the next round, lol

 

[zekko]

Where the fvck do you live where a drink costs $10???

First off, I didn't say they were ten bucks, that was someone else. I'd say a mixed drink is around $7. Then there are shots. But the nicer the place, the higher the drinks. Some places they will cost more than ten dollars, quite a bit more. Doesn't matter to me though, I don't drink.

But you can take her to a dive bar for dollar beer night, fer sure. Be warned, though, the place is going to be packed.

 

[bigneil]

Needless to say I broke.

You said it.

A woman seeks a man to pay for her every deliberation, never mind 1/3 of 1 day's sustenance Get a job.

Where the fvck do you live where a drink costs $10???

And that's why you challenge them to a game of darts and make a bet that loser buys the next round, lol

In Boston the average drink (we had 11 each over 3 days) cost $13.70 including tip (or about $11 each before tip). Even at $7, it's about $10 per drink including tips. Get a job.

But great idea. Get her to buy you a drink, meaning she has to go to work (for a real man who pays her). 51% of women who cheat do so with men they met at work.

 

[marmel75]

You said it.

A woman seeks a man to pay for her every deliberation, never mind 1/3 of 1 day's sustenance Get a job.


In Boston the average drink (we had 11 each over 3 days) cost $13.70 including tip (or about $11 each before tip). Even at $7, it's about $10 per drink including tips. Get a job.

But great idea. Get her to buy you a drink, meaning she has to go to work (for a real man who pays her). 51% of women who cheat do so with men they met at work.

I do have a job. Actually most women cheat with jacked ass dudes like me.

She buys me a drink because I'm worth buying a drink for.

Go spend your beta bux bro, I don't need to throw money around to get women.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I drink bottles of Sam Adams or rum and coke if I know the bartender mixes them strong. Last night, I had a couple of each...$2.50 per drink. I was generous, and tipped 50 cents with each one.