Should you lie?

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I have never lied to a girl by - for instance - saying that I had sex with an ukrainian girl whereas in reality all that happened was that I met this ukrainian girl in the city, touched her, talked to her and then never saw her again.

I believe that I am an open book when it comes to lying, I believe women would always sense it if I lied.

Is that a limiting belief

Is it generally better to allude that you had sex with a girl than saying that you were talking to her and she was saying "nice-to-meet-you" and left?

Serious Question.
 
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I would lie for a random vacation ONS. I have about my age many times.

But in general, in real life, I'm very honest.

But let's get to your specific situation...

Should you lie and say you had sex with a girl or even allude to it? I don't think it's a lie or truth issue. The more important thing is to never come across as a "kiss and tell bragger type."

The guys I know that get laid the most don't say jack shyte about it. Women prefer to F a guy that won't say a word about it to anyone.

Now, I understand your dilemma. You don't want to look like a LJBF beta either. So keep it ambiguous. If she asked if you met someone, say yes. But don't get into any details about what you did with this girl. Make her wonder if anything happened.
 
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Mike32ct said:
Now, I understand your dilemma. You don't want to look like a LJBF beta either. So keep it ambiguous. If she asked if you met someone, say yes. But don't get into any details about what you did with this girl. Make her wonder if anything happened.
Yes, you understand the problem. Do you have a strategy for people like me who are not subtle by nature? I am similar to quentin tarantino in that aspect.
 

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Keeping some mystery doesn't feel natural to a lot of guys. If I'm truly being myself 100%, I'm an open book. For years, I openly discussed my AFC LJBF dating horror stories because I find them funny. Even to this day, I have to FORCE myself to keep my mouth shut about these "demonstrations of lower v a lue."

I'm very open on here because I'm proud of my struggles and want to help guys. But in person, these days, I don't say much.

But back to you....

Just keep in mind the consequences of openly discussing hookups. Sure, on one hand, it is "alpha" to an extent to say "Yeah I met this girl. We hit it off. She was such a screamer (in bed)."

But you won the battle but possibly lost the war. In the short term, you're a confident "tell it like it is" guy who got laid (or claimed he got laid if lying lol). But now, this girl will have second thoughts about hooking up wit you in the future because she knows you share these details with others. That's where you could potentially lose the war.

Your reputation shouldn't come from what YOU say or brag about. It should be from other girls gossiping about you in a favorable way such as...

"He met this girl on vacation/holiday. I'm not sure if they hooked up. He wouldn't tell me."

"OMG I heard he is such a player. My friend's friend's sister said he left with a different girl each week."

"I can't believe I'm telling you this, but him and I kinda sorta hooked up. He is so big. I never came so hard before. My knees were shaking."
 

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Not lying caused a huge mess in my situation. It depends on the circumstances. I firmly believe you have to think about the truth and the lie you want to set up and then see if the pros out weigh the cons. Choose the superior choice.
 

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Mike32ct said:
Keeping some mystery doesn't feel natural to a lot of guys. If I'm truly being myself 100%, I'm an open book. For years, I openly discussed my AFC LJBF dating horror stories because I find them funny. Even to this day, I have to FORCE myself to keep my mouth shut about these "demonstrations of lower v a lue."
I enjoy talking about my failures way more than talking about my successes because I fear envy or jealousy.
 

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Didn't your parents ever tell you not to lie? To a lot of people this is just common sense.

I swear...
 

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Hey Mike this is a little off topic but I am curious to hear about the situations you lied about your age in...

I am in my mid 30s also and I have posted about age being a liability when gaming younger girls...
 

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i was taught to never discuss a woman you have laid, or a man that you have killed. Always made sense to me.
 

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I've been forced to lie about my current dating situation. Dating 4-5 girls a week. When a chick asks me how many girls I am dating, there is no way to tell them the truth without it coming off the wrong way.

I tried telling the truth to two women, who promptly ended the date early. These same women have no problem dating a bunch of dudes at the same time. However, shame on you if your a guy and do the same thing...

Women complain about men being liars, but their behavior helps us become the azzholes that we are today.
 
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