Should we have a Newbies section for MM and DJ forums?

[AAAgent]

There's been discussion amongst a few of us who are generally interested in separating the MM forums and DJ forums with a Newbie section for each. They're currently only sectioned off by age, but AFC's flock to SoSuave at all ages. Teens under 18 join on a daily basis, I came as a 21 year old, and others arrived at 25+. Age may differentiate our life experiences but not in regards to our education of women/game. Most of us who come are all newbies and as the volume of users/posters has increased significantly, its been a lot easier to spot trends in the same types of stories/scenarios being posted about over and over again.

These stories are mostly posted by newbies, who have not read the DJ Bible or had a chance to apply the Bible's preaching's. I don't mind guiding the newbies to where to go, what to read, or sometimes with their repetitive issues as its part of giving back to the community, but its hard to find those diamonds in the rough when your searching for that needle in a haystack.

One newbie section might even do it as a way to separate some more experienced posters.

 

[betheman]

A newbie forum for sure but I dont think we need 2. most forums have newby forums and it would help de clutter the afore mentioned forums, save a lot of repetition.
there is loads of good advice in the archived and tips threads as well as the stickies. somtimes though Guys come here and need feedback and a newbie forum would help fill that function

 

[Prodigious1]

Being a newbie myself I think it would be really helpful

 

[Who Dares Win]

Agree, different level of ability lead to different problems.

A guy totally new to the concepts here has different necessities than a guy whos already enough successful that needs feedback to calibrate.

Threads asking how to work on that particular girl or how to leave the friendzone are stuff for newbies compared to threads from guys who are successful but wants to improve the quality of girls they get.

Btw the bible should be updated to 2012 and a faq directory should be added for the frequently asked questions.

 

[SgtSplacker]

It should be mandatory for people to show their age on their profiles. It only helps people give the right advice. I can't imagine any down side to this. Maybe i'm overlooking something...

 

[Iceberg]

Isn't this the newbie section? What does this section become if we add a newbie section? The Intermediate section? Does a newbie know that their question is a newbie question? Are they going to post there?

My point is, the board was already sectioned off pretty wisely. High school forum. DJ Discussion forum. Mature Man forum.

Even the Married Section seems excessive because there's not enough marriage questions to justify its existence. Marriage threads pop up like once a month.

Repetitive newbie questions are annoying, but that's life. It's not ruining my enjoyment of the site THAT much.

 

[AAAgent]

This isn't the newbie section.

This section is for anyone that isn't classified as 25+ or a mature man.

 

[Iceberg]

This isn't the newbie section.

This section is for anyone that isn't classified as 25+ or a mature man.

Right. But my point is...why wouldn't newbies post here? Who should be posting here?

We already have the forum broken up by ages. Now we'd break it up by "DJ levels??" It just seems like segmenting the board for the sake of segmenting the board. We do it too much, and you'll have 5 people posting per forum (ex, The Married Man).

 

[bigneil]

Maybe we can have some DJ test that people have to pass before they can post?

 

[ezio]

! absolutely agree, plus i suggest we sticky some of the best posts in the forums was was done with Judge Nismos(probably got the spelling wrong). the book of pook and Dj bible must be mandatory reading.guys come in here acting like its an online version of oprah

 

[AAAgent]

Right. But my point is...why wouldn't newbies post here? Who should be posting here?

We already have the forum broken up by ages. Now we'd break it up by "DJ levels??" It just seems like segmenting the board for the sake of segmenting the board. We do it too much, and you'll have 5 people posting per forum (ex, The Married Man).

Do you play your walk on players and start them with the varsity team or the jv team? No, they sit on the bench until they're ready to move up. They learn the basics and practice until they're experienced and skilled enough to make jv or varsity.

I'm not saying we have to get technical with creating forums just to have extra forums, but it would make things less cluttered by having newbie sections. Instead of having questions like "what's AFc mean?" etc.

 

[ArcBound]

I think its excessive.

A lot of woman problems are actually the same for newbies and experienced people just to a slightly different degree.

DJism isn't something you just fvckin lvl up in like a video game. Sometimes people relapse, forget about fundamental things or straight up didn't learn about one aspect of game even though they might be advanced in others. How would you classify that person? Which forum would he frequent?

I'm going to tell you what would happen if we made a newbie forum. A lot of newbies would pretend they know sh!t about game and all flock to the "advanced" forum. Newbie forum would have like no one in it. It'd just be creating another empty forum as Iceberg mentioned.

I like the main Don Juan forum because when I knew nothing at all about women a lot of older people would give me a lot of advice and criticism.

I want all of you to look at the High School Forum. Yes its populated by highschoolers but a lot of the experienced posters on this site don't even go there and give advice to them. That's why when I came to this site I just posted mainly in the Don Juan Discussion section. In creating another newbie section you are just creating another forum where people will be ignored by those that could give the best advice.

 

[Brighty]

Yes.

A thousand times yes.

Seriously, I know a lot of experienced DJs out there that may be de-sensitized to this whole thing but there is such a huge discrepancy between a beginner DJ and even an intermediate DJ, never-mind an expert DJ, and we need to acknowledge this. That's all I'm going to touch upon this subject, but I hope you all follow through.

 

[AAAgent]

I know for a fact that a few of experienced posters already ignore the DJ forum. Do you see Colossus posting here anymore? I rarely post here anymore because of the same reasons. I mainly stick to AE and H&F.

 

[PDubb75]

Personally, it wouldn't matter much to me. I usually look at "New Posts". That simply gives me a list of all threads that have been updated since my last visit, no matter what section they are in.

I think the idea is good, in theory. But in practice, it will be exactly how ArcBound described. And the problem is, how can you blame people for posting in the "wrong forum" when there are no measurable guidelines? Who decides when someone graduates from Newbie, to Intermediate, to Advanced?

I feel that the best way to guard against these petty questions is to somehow force reading the DJ Bible before being allowed to post. So many answers are in there. However, I don't see how that can be enforced.

I think this may be an issue we just need to deal with, and hopefully quality responses by experienced members will help some newbies learn faster.

 

[Eternal_water]

Being a newbie I think it would be a good idea

(as would a field report forum for succesful field reports only)

I could see no downside to either of these.

edit: I have put my age on my profile but for some reason it doesn't appear on my posts

 

[AlexLefty]

Make a college forum.

 

[Mantis Toboggan]

Make a college forum.

So....

A high school forum for 14-18 year olds.

A College forum for 18-22 year olds.

Mature Man for 25+

And I guess the Don Juan Discussion forum is for 23 and 24 year olds?

The forum is fine how it is, people. The annoyances you're dealing with aren't because there isn't enough forums here. It's because we're on the internet and it's full of annoying f**kers.

 

[Chamber36]

I think it's a good idea, if there's a good FAQ, like Judge Nismo's posts on common issues. That way, hopefully most newbs won't have to post questions to get answers. Secondly, I wouldn't call it a newbie forum. That might keep people out of there. Maybe the "Recovering AFC forum" or the "Beginner's Circle". Maybe even as low-key as a "Common Question" forum. I just hope that the noobs will get the attention they need in there and won't be forced to post in the general Discussion board.

If that were to work I think the content on the general Discussion board will rise in value. When you look at the posts from 2003, you can see those guys were pretty serious about their Don Juanism.

The good content on the Discussion board is getting diluted as is right now.

So like I said: I think you could filter the noobs from the general Discussion forum, but I'd change the name and make sure they get the attention they need. That way I think it would work out well. AFAIK we need it more than the Married Man's forum. If the noobs were to get the support they needed, I think most of the questions would be posted there and then hopefully most of the revelations would be posted here.

 

[Eternal_water]

while I think its a good idea I think a succesful field report section would be even better.