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Should I Pursue This...?

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How Persistent are you?

I met this chick at a club...older MILF but in Great Shape with Hot Bod. She had a few drinks in her..and gave me a decent kiss at the bar. I'm not a bad looking dude but...quite frankly i think it was more booze than my charm.

I'm 45 (but look and Act like 35)...avid fitness freak and do all the thing necessary to make me look good!

Shes' a ..former model, 40's, go getter, biz chick, but recently divorced (1yr) and "got the short end of the stick." Her X (unfortunately) is wacked out on Anti depressants and going through a midlife change (which i totally understand...it happens to a lot of men when they reach there 40's).

I've only met her for one date but...i'm not sure if i want to pursue it or not....might be a lot of work and cost a lot of money.

How do you gauge if a women is worth pursuing?

1) First of all...i want to get laid.
2) If she qualifies...i want a commitment....as in Girlfriend.

Just looking for some input from some older dudes on "where they draw the line" for pursuing (or not) a Girl...

thanks man....;)
 

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Hey Don,

First date was a meet for a drink. One thing i did notice was "this girl can drink." She slammed down 2 grey gooses in 1 hr.

I let her talk to find out a little about her....overall no fireworks or anything. Quite Frankly, she caught me off guard with the negative BS about the X and some other BS...gave me a creapy "deja vu" feeling that i had with my X and her problems (it seems that MILFS has a lot of issues and baggage).

It ended with a kiss on the cheek and some texting after. Now that i look back...it wasn't anything to write home about.

Even though she's a "9"....Not sure if its worth a second date or not.

Maybe i can keep her as a meetup party buddy.
 

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acw said:
Quite Frankly, she caught me off guard with the negative BS about the X and some other BS...gave me a creapy "deja vu" feeling that i had with my X and her problems (it seems that MILFS has a lot of issues and baggage).


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I wish I had one pre-GFC dollar for every divorced MILF who I listened to while she b1tched and whined about her ex on her first date with me....
Why do they shoot themselves in the knee caps by telling me all their BS victims stories.
Apart from the fact that the vast majority of their sad tales are mindless inventions, it is just flat out annoying.

How f*cking tedious.
 

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acw said:
Hey Don,

First date was a meet for a drink. One thing i did notice was "this girl can drink." She slammed down 2 grey gooses in 1 hr.

I let her talk to find out a little about her....overall no fireworks or anything. Quite Frankly, she caught me off guard with the negative BS about the X and some other BS...gave me a creapy "deja vu" feeling that i had with my X and her problems (it seems that MILFS has a lot of issues and baggage).
Did you take note of how innocent she was in the drama of her past?

It is as if they are were an innocent bystander -a spectator of their own sad and tragic lives in which their hopes ,dreams and wishes were cruelly destroyed by some callous, rampaging, evil man-ape who tricked her into marriage.
 

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If you're 45 i think you should trust your gut. If you think it's to much work and effort then eject.

The drinking thing is not necessarily a red flag for me. Depends on your personal preferences. I myself like women who know how to party and have a good time and in our world alcohol has become a part of it. I mean, she didn't get completely wasted, did she? Don't get me wrong. Nobody likes a girl (or a guy) who gets so drunk that it becomes embarrassing to have him or her around. But a little tipsy( is that the word?) is always ok and good. Alcohol is helping people get laid for a couple of thousand years. Here in Germany is a saying that "drunk people and little children always tell the truth" As long as everbody knows their personal limits there's nothing wrong with drinking.

The complaining about the ex however would be a major red flag for me. Especially when it's not a random comment on ex guys like "i always seem to pick the wrong ones" but a full flat 3 hour detailed rant on what a moron and jerk her last boyfriend/husband was. What's even worse is that he still is in the picture and that the story is not ancient history. Sounds like trouble to me.

As for the whole baggage thing: At a certain age everbody carries around at least some baggage. And the ones who at first seem to be free of it, have the most of it when you really get to know them.
The only question is how much or what kind of baggage are you willing to deal with?
Also your own baggage plays into the whole attraction thing. You attract what you portay.
A good friend of mine is milliseconds away from alcoholism and his women is borderline. They both make good money and love each other. However when there's trouble once a year, there is gonna be real trouble.
Be it her looting her and his bank account and burning 30.000 € in a week with some random jerk she just picked up or be it him not coming home for 3 weeks, drifting through every bar and every brothel here, calling me at 9 in the morning telling me to go pick him up at the dollhouse and cover for his (huuuuuge) tab.
However, they've been together nearly 20 years and my guess is, they won't ever leave each other. Why? Because they can show each other their darkest sides without the other one running for the hills. That's a strong bond.
Keep that in mind when thinking about baggage. Now i'm not saying that it's a good thing. But a connection of the dark sides of two minds/souls can be equally strong or even stronger than the bond of positive character traits.

It's easy to only want the "quality ones" without any baggage.
 
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Never peruse at all - let them chase you always. You have failed if you have thoughts of chasing after any women.

Please re-read the Don Juan bible again - twice as punishment!!
 

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you probably could have had a hot "fling" with her. she seemed ready t' go. every chick you meet does not have to be the next mrs ACW. have fun out there.
 

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Ok...so sex is the goal...

How should i play this?
 

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acw said:
It ended with a kiss on the cheek
That doesn't sound good. You both had a "decent" kiss(in your words) the first night you met, now it's a kiss on the cheek? It seems like she has a low interest in you. Plus you mentioned she was tipsy when she kissed you that first night. A rule with me is, I never take a drunk woman's actions seriously. Yeah some say their "true" selves come out when they're drunk, which might be true in some cases, but a lot of times too it's not their true selves, it's the alcohol lowering their standards. Without that alcohol, they wouldn't touch you.

I used to know a chick in her late 20's when I was 22 who would only call me and want to f*ck when she was drunk. I would get calls at like 1 a.m. in the morning.
 

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acw, sex is not ALWAYS the goal. It just is with damaged women like this one that you're dealing with. Is it starting to become clear? And here you are wanting a relationship with some drunk chick who whines about her ex. No wonder you haven't fvcked her yet. I guarantee you she's riding on some guy's d1ck out there, though. Make no mistake about that. You may as well get you some of it, too.

How should you play this, you ask? Call her up, tell her you're cooking dinner at your place, tell her to bring the wine (or whatever you want to drink). But make sure you've got plenty of whatever she likes to drink at your house, just in case. Have some music going, and friggin' act confident and like a man. Joke with her, and DON'T TALK ABOUT THE EX.

If you don't want to bring her to your place, call her and tell her to meet you at some bar/restaurant. Get sloshed, make some sh1t up that gets you back to her place and rail her ass. I mean, sh1t, that's what she wants, and if you don't do it, somebody else will.

And if she turns you down, oh well. At least you know she doesn't like you, so you don't waste more time. And don't look at it as a missed opportunity, but rather a lesson learned.
 

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LOL....you're funny.

I think you're confused bro...i'm a looker: 6'3, full head of hair, 215lbs..."Solid." ....Most chicks wouldn't have a problem kissing me...drunk or not.

Morever, chicks are "intimidated" by guys who look like me. (A lot of them are suspcicious...assuming i am taken and on the prowl for piece of ass. Or worse, they are looking over my shoulder wondering where my GF is. I let them draw their own conclusions and "ponder" why i am on the market. I am very picky about who i bang and certainly who i would call GF.

I mentioned the drinking that night for discussion purposes...not to diminish my statue....Get me?

Now...

1) Most chicks need a little grease to lower their true inhibitions. This is a universal rule...i don't hold it against them. However, when i noticed that someone can down several drinks and fast...it raises a red flag.

2) This chick keeps texting me and returning phone calls...so i know she has interest...otherwise i would have 86'd her number 3 weeks ago....

3) Looking for some input on how to handle this and for kicks...thought i would share the experience with the Group.

4) I got girls who **** without "booze"...most of them are bad lays and only good for BJ's when things are slow. However, they are not Solid "9s" like this girl; (she's 5.8,135lbs,tight waist, blonde, big smile, green eyes).

On a positiive...i like your idea of getting her back to my place....but i will add...since i have a HUGH pool in my back yard...i'm gonna invite her over for a swim...

Peace...

~T



edger said:
That doesn't sound good. You both had a "decent" kiss(in your words) the first night you met, now it's a kiss on the cheek? It seems like she has a low interest in you. Plus you mentioned she was tipsy when she kissed you that first night. A rule with me is, I never take a drunk woman's actions seriously. Yeah some say their "true" selves come out when they're drunk, which might be true in some cases, but a lot of times too it's not their true selves, it's the alcohol lowering their standards. Without that alcohol, they wouldn't touch you.

I used to know a chick in her late 20's when I was 22 who would only call me and want to f*ck when she was drunk. I would get calls at like 1 a.m. in the morning.
 
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