Should i have gone for the kiss after 1 year of being just friends? my ex-gf's ex bff

LuckyStrike88

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I have a girl i have been friends with (Jennifer) for about a year, she used to be bestfriends with my girlfriend at the time (Stacey) about a half year ago and i met her through her we would hang out together. When i ended it with Stacey and some point Jennifer invited me over and we became friends, but she was still friends with Stacey (my ex), and Stacey was already mad about us hanging out let alone more than that. So i think we both always had that in our minds and didn't do anything even though there has been a lot of tension at times.

I have had pretty much a beta year around both of them but i have gotten a lot further since then. My friendship with Jennifer has consisted mostly of hanging out at her place, walking with her dogs and watching movies. We usually sit about 1-2 feet apart watching movies, when we talk from that position we usually have that long deep eye contact. But not a single type of intimacy has ever taken place besides a bit of physical play but never in a loving kinda way. We always held back because of her friend, my ex Stacey.

She has always been very dominant to guys, she is kinda hot 8-9 but acts like she's a 10, a very strong frame. I have never let any feels shine through tho and we continued being friends this way. Because for long she has indirectly been communicating that she is too good for me.

Recently iv'e changed on her using the things i learned and negging/teasing the hell out of her and it's working like magic, she really softens up and seems to have more respect. Tho she really knows how to push guy buttons when i neg her she can act fake-mad in a way some guys would probably apologize.

Recently we have both broken contact with Stacey(my ex-gf her ex-bff) so that is not standing in our way anymore.

So last night...
My game had worked so well past week that she had been showing a lot more interest than before. And last night i came in with an outcome in mind and some feels. I came in and we had some small talk and connection and i started the movie, no negs or anything just friendly joking around. We went on that way and we watched the movie while she ate dinner but the dogs was all focused on her food barking wanting something. So i looked at the dog and laughed at him acting crazy. And she shot me with "Don't look and laugh at him while he does that!", i obeyed like a dog and stopped laughing and continued watching the movie without responding to her and felt like a wuss and resentful to her. So i continued watching the movie feeling powerless and resentful towards her my first thought being something like "First you act like your all into me, i come in with hopes. And now you shoot me down like this... *****".

After have gotten the upper hand the last 2 weeks after almost a year of friendship and her showing the kind of interest she had never before, i allowed myself to start getting feelings for her.

Why the **** did i let my guard down like this, after the neg i felt powerless/speechless and acted like i was just really into the movie. But then my face started to turn all red i could feel it, can't even remember the last time that has happened to me. I think she noticed and i thought i was doomed for the night.

I hadn't said anything for 30 minutes still feeling wierd, but i decided to just talk to her even in this weak state and don't hide it just be completely myself. So with shaky hands i showed her this cigarette trick i learned, it was very akward she smiled but looked at me strangely, probably knowing how i felt and why. But what i found out is that she actually respected me for not hiding it. And after no time i was back to my old strong self again.

From that point every comment, move or thing she would say i negged the hell out of in a funny teasing way. I was basically screening her for mistakes constantly, when you do that to someone it's almost impossible to turn around for them to do it to you. And in no time i felt powerful again and she turned from dominant to a feminine little playful girl. We had some fun physical play and teasing for some time.

Then she started talking about some guy she had been talking to online and that she was probably gonna meet up with tomorrow. I completely approved it and encouraged her to go on a date with this guy.

After that i pulled away feeling powerful and uninterested in her, like the prize that she let get away talking about this guy and going on a date with him tomorrow. I sat with pride, just having my own fun. Laughing at the movie, teasing her a little.

---Kiss or Pride?---
Then she put her legs on the couch sitting on the right side of me, knees pointed towards me just barely touching me. And just starts looking at me with her face about 1-2 feet away, while i looked straight at the movie in front of me. I could feel a big tension, and that she wanted me to kiss her. But i just felt like she had her chance and had taken it for granted too much and i acted uninterested, and broke the tension by not looking back at her and saying something about what was happening in the movie.

She turned a bit away from me and we continued watching the movie. Then out of nowhere i get water in my face, she spit it in my face with her mouth. So i was like now you're gonna get it and was going for tickling and just squeezing her. She acted all fake-mad that i should not retaliate like that, and i did a little less then i was going for. But whiped my wet hands and arms off on her clothes to get even.

Then she did it again! My face all wet, and again she acted fake-mad like i shouldn't do anything back. That it was just normal for her to do that to me. But i was not going to buy into that **** again. I took the glass from her hand and poured it all over her shirt, boobs and pants. She acted all fake mad, stood up and looked at me with her angry face. I just laughed at her and said she shouldn't put on that angry face as it didn't made her look any prettier.

She went upstairs and got on her pajamas and came sitting next to me, i could tell she felt a bit softened up. And we just had relaxed some smalltalk from that point and joked around about us and everything getting wet. It was already 4am the movie ended and i went home.

Told her as i walked out, good luck with your date tomorrow! She told me that he was probably not coming, and that if he came over she wasn't sure if he was her type. It was going to be a first-meet of a dating site at her place.

I think i recovered well and walked away with power, even though i didn't go for the kiss. I just think i shouldn't have in this situation when she had a date the next day and was still having such an attitude towards me. But at the end the result seemed to be that she was talking down her date for tomorrow to get my approval.


It's a long story but for the people that got through it thanks, would love to hear advice/thoughts on this interaction and if you guys think i should have gone for that kiss or handled it the way i did?

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Lol trolololol... 4am in her place and not action????

Where was your penis?????
 

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Are you insane? Shouldve been all up in that P right when she stared at you.
 

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I don't exactly know how to turn the friendship frame into something more intimate. I can see she is attracted. We have physical play but the atmosphere is too much like brother/sister fighting.
I also feel like she is going to be wierded out if i do something that is suggesting intimacy/flirting as we have been just friends for almost a year.
I don't know how to shake of the friends-zone into intimacy because we have been friends for a while. Any advice?
 

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Been in this situation before, maaaaan! Here's the breakdown: in short, she likes you. She started a play fight with you as an excuse to get you to retaliate and touch her, which you did so it worked. Then she got into softer clothes to further exude her femininity in the hopes you'd make a stronger move. The fact that she let you stay there til 4 AM further clarifies this point.

So, why did she mention the potential date? This is what we call the "Stupid Women Logic" territory of dating. It's an example of what a female will do in hopes of attracting a potential suitor when said suitor is being slow to act.

In her head, the reason you're not making a move is because she thinks you may not find her desirable. And, her reasoning tell her, it's probably because you don't think other men desire her. (Keep in mind: most women desire men they know are desired by other women. Her thinking, then, is that it works the other way around: that you'd be attracted to her if you knew other men wanted her). So, in order for her to get you to make a move, she has to let you know other men desire her, thus having to tell you about a guy who wants to go on a date with her. This may or not may be a true fact (as evident of the fact that she was quick to tell you as you were leaving that the guy she may have a date with isn't really her type or may not show up), but she has to get it out there to let you know other men want her.

This is why it's really, REALLY helpful to not listen to all the words women are telling you, and to focus more on their actions. WORDS: "I have a date tomorrow with a guy!" ACTIONS: She's play-wrestling with you and being flirty. GO BY THE ACTION, NOT THE WORDS.

Hope this helps!
 

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Harry nailed it. I'm just still smh. This was textbook "please make a move on me" behaviour. It'll be tough to come back from here but the next time you see her, make a move for fvcks sake.
 

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Dude you are simply gay...gtfo with this high school sh!t...

Oh...I can't believe after a year and all the progress I made over the last 2 weeks how she could treat me like this...wahhhh...wahhhh...dude, grow some balls
 

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BackInTheGame78 said:
Dude you are simply gay...gtfo with this high school sh!t...

Oh...I can't believe after a year and all the progress I made over the last 2 weeks how she could treat me like this...wahhhh...wahhhh...dude, grow some balls
Thanks bro, best comment so far.
I realise this is what i and other men in general need. To tell a guy to man the **** up when he starts to talk while high on feels.

Just be a man and do it without worrying about all the ins and outs and how she might respond.

Next time i am gonna ****ing grab her and report back here.
If she doesn't like it she shouldn't have hinted me like that.
**** why do i realize this now... Well that frustration can be used for next time ;)
 
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