Should i give her another chance?

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I met this girl at the mall about a month ago. She's 22 and recently came from Colombia. Has a law degree. Both face and body are solid 9/10 at least, which means she'd be labeled a 10+ SHB on ASF. I initially rated her an 8.5, but after seeing her dressed up, decided to bump that up. Anyway, she's only had two boyfriends and seemed to have serious MLTR potential... up until today.

After exchanging numbers a month ago, we met for coffee two weeks ago and things went great. We immediately clicked and had fun talking for over an hour, even though her English is still pretty weak. The date ended with a kiss. So far so good.

Today, i went to pick her up for another date. Because her temporary license isn't valid for highways, I had to go up to her place to meet her, which took 30 minutes. I told her that i wanted to go grab some food, take it to my place and watch a DVD, but she refused.

I'm guessing she didn't want to go to my place yet because she barely knows me, which is understandeable. Then i suggested we eat and go watch a movie at a theatre, to which she said that she only has enough time to eat. Fair enough.

So we drive back and arrive at the restaurant 45 minutes later. On the way, we're talking and really connecting. I had fun talking to her, though admittedly, i was the one generating the vibe and she was just playing along. She did that well though.

The meal was fun. Talking, laughing, etc. One of her friends called her and reminded her that they're going camping for the long weekend. He wanted an answer then and there, because they had to arrange for transport. So she hung up and started thinking, then called a few of her girlfriends who are going to ask their opinion.

I didn't mind her talking on the phone because i was busy eating, and she did apologize. And then asked me for my opinion. So i'm thinkin... long weekend, camping with a hot chick and a bunch of her south american friends... sounds like fun! And besides, last time we spoke on the phone, she said that she wanted to spend this weekend with me.

So i told he that she should go and i'll with her. Take my car and if we don't like it, we can go back after a day and not stay the entire weekend. For some reason, she refused. Something about being uncomfortable with going in such a big group, where she only knows 2 people.Yea, that was disappointing. I'm an adventurous guy and like adventurous girls. And her decision didn't fit the profile.

So we finished eating, and when the time to pay came, i playfully told her to fork out a 20 for her meal. She obliged, but pretended to be slightly mad at me for making her pay on the way back to the car. This was ignored. When we got back to the car, i decided to show her the beach. She said she misses Colombia a lot, and hasn't seen white sand since leaving home. So i figured what the hell... there's a sandy beach nearby, the night is beautiful, lets go!

We get there and get out of the car.. its a little chilly, but incredibly beautiful. I was alright wearing only a shirt, but she was wearing a jacket and said she was freezing. Its constantly +40 in Colombia, so i guess +10 is freezing to them. She wanted to leave after only two minutes, even before seeing the sand.

Now, this is where things went wrong for me. I mean, i spent all this time driving to her house and then to the restaurant, and now had a long drive back to her place to look forward to... and instead of spending some time with me at a place i enjoyed, she wanted to leave?!

What the hell? This really got to me because i immediately thought of my other MLTR, who would have never done that! She would have stuck around, even if she was freezing to death... just to make me feel good! And i'd do the same for her. That's the way it's supposed to be!

So i drove her back. Didn't talk to her at all. She asked me if i was alright and if i was mad at her about 4 times during the trip. Tried making conversation a 4-5 times, but i basically ignored her. When we got back, she said thank you and told me to have a good night, and i just looked at her and nodded. Guess she was expecting a kiss. But i wasn't in the mood.

Yea... so i dunno. She seems spoiled and inflexible. Always wants things to go her way. Her last boyfriend nearly married her, so i guess he spoiled her rotten. On the other hand, if those issues could be addressed, she'd make an amazing MLTR. She's really beautiful and intelligent and i think she'd be a very caring, passionate and devoted girlfriend. Should i give her another chance?
 
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I think you already know the answer to your problem.

Personally, I've encountered this situation before and I have given it another chance simply because she was hot.

When the girl has low interest in you, giving her chances will only confirm your initial suspicion that she isn't all that interested in you.
 

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alright you've hit my weak spot here. I love south american girls. I'm at a school were there are plenty around and one of my first friends here was from colombia. I meet some amazing women from him. Most of the women that I have meet from south america living in the states come from very well to do families. Most of the guys as well. My first impression was that these girls were the utmost challenge and expected to be married to a guy who was of equal worth. I was way off. Acting like a man who doesn't gauge himself by his parents bank account got me pretty far.

From your story it sounds like you are supplicating a bit too much. Good job not putting up with the disrespect. If I were you I would lay back and keep her as a side project.
 

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Seems to me like you are very inconsiderate. She is a female. if she was cold, you should be understanding to that and stop thinking about yourself. Very selfish!!! And you made her pay!!! I would have left your @ss on the sand too!!
 

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Originally posted by HuuBinh
I think you already know the answer to your problem.

Personally, I've encountered this situation before and I have given it another chance simply because she was hot.

When the girl has low interest in you, giving her chances will only confirm your initial suspicion that she isn't all that interested in you.
Man, that is some of the best advice I've heard coming from anyone on this site.

Seems to me like you are very inconsiderate. She is a female. if she was cold, you should be understanding to that and stop thinking about yourself. Very selfish!!! And you made her pay!!! I would have left your @ss on the sand too!!
I will assume you are a female, because no logical man would give that advice.

If she were cold I would have told her to suck it up. At that point I would know that the date is going nowhere, so I'd be a jerk. Better than kissing ass.

I cannot emphasize enough that on ANY first date THE GIRL SHOULD PAY HER SHARE OF THE MEAL!!!! Chivalry was all well and good in the 50s and before, but since the feminist revolution women and men are considered equals, which is good. This also means that women should not expect everything done for them or given to them simply because they are women.

Candy, what is your logical reasoning for a man who barely knows you paying for the first date?
 

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Assuming that the man asked the women out on a date, he should pay. If it were the other way around, then the women should pick up the tab..
 

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Haha!

So that means that if I ask a girl on a date she HAS to go?

No no. She does it because it's fun for her. Maybe she likes me, or just wanna have some fun, whatever. For me it's simple: if she says let's go, it's all fair from now on.

It is like saying that you take someone out and have to pay everything for them just because you delivered them the disgusting pain of enjoying your miserable company.

Well, WTF?
 

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Originally posted by Jus_LikeCandy
Assuming that the man asked the women out on a date, he should pay. If it were the other way around, then the women should pick up the tab..
Nobody is putting a gun to her head.
 

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Candy, I do not believe that is a good reason.

If I ask out a woman on a date, it is because I am expecting to have a good time with her. She accepts because she is expecting to have a good time with me.
Since we are both equally expecting the same things, we owe each other nothing at that point.

If she feels I should pay because I took time out of her busy schedule, then she shouldn't have accepted in the first place.
Furthermore, she fails to realize that I took time out of my most likely busier schedule to ask her out, risk rejection, and set up reservations for the date. Since I did all the work up to that point, maybe she should pay for my meal?
 

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Men are ridiculous!!!! I have never been expected to pay for myself on a date. I may offer, but I have never been asked to. Any man that does this is viewed as a cheap loser and the girls will have fun talking about your broke, loser @ss!!!!
 

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Originally posted by Luveno
If she feels I should pay because I took time out of her busy schedule, then she shouldn't have accepted in the first place.
Hence, may argument that nobody is putting a gun to her head.


The implication of the man paying is an outdated standard. It existed decades ago when a HUGE majority of the workforce was male. Of course the man paid. The woman had very little money of her own to pay with.

This has obviously changed drastically in a few decades. Women make up a large amount of the workforce now. This number is only rising. A few decades ago there were maybe a handful of women in engineering. They made up probably less than %5 of the faculty. Now they make up 30-35%.

In conclusion, the women today have much more money of their own than they did 50 years ago when this tradition of men paying was common. Therefore, the implication that a man should pay TODAY should not exist.
 

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I am not saying they have to pay. It is a nice gesture. And, it wins you points with the girl. you don't have to, but you will lose a lot of point by not.

I would never go on a second date with a guy who asks me to pay for my meal on the first date. NEVER!!!NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Originally posted by Jus_LikeCandy
Men are ridiculous!!!! I have never been expected to pay for myself on a date. I may offer, but I have never been asked to. Any man that does this is viewed as a cheap loser and the girls will have fun talking about your broke, loser @ss!!!!
Any woman who thinks like you is seen as a double standard modern feminist b1tch. I'm matching your tone now.

Ever thought that you had to EARN your free dinners and dates? That EARNING them required more than having a pvssy? Get with the times. Just because you meet chumps who live by some archaic standard set out DECADES ago when things were very different, it doesn't mean all men should be.

Some of us men require that you actually earn your way into our wallets and hearts.
 

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Candy, what do you look like?

I'm asking not so I can lambaste you or anything. I just want to know what demographic of female you are considered to be in.

How you feel about this topic may coincide with a certain archetype of modern female that has a distinct appearance.

IF you are not interested in sending a picture, what is your:

height
weight
hair color
skin color
eye color
and, what celebrity do you look towards for fashion advice?



Additionally, Candy, you have not yet provided a reason why men should pay for dates.

You have also failed to logically conclude why women should not pay for men's dates.

Your argument holds no weight in today's world. Case closed.
 

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5 feet 5 inches
120 pounds
long, brown hair
blue eyes
olive skin

Trust me, I am a Gorgeous girl. Not to be conceited, but I am.....
I don't look to any celebrity. I make up my own style.....
 

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I think you're one of the girls we refer to as attention wh ores, and you seem to have an entitlement complex.

No offense but the way you're answering posts seems to suggest that you believe you deserve everything from men just because you are a 'gorgeous girl'.

Times now dictate that there are many other gorgeous girls who have a fairer mindset than you. That equals competition.

Myself and others like me would rather part with a selfish girl than with money (money is always on your side, gets you freedom, and money demands nothing of you).
Last time a girl wanted me to pay for her meal I walked out without saying goodbye.

So, to increase your worth and not be useful for only one night stands or FB status, consider dropping the antiquated belief that the man pays for everything on a first date. This is only advice, it is not meant to be offensive.
 

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CANDY IS A TROLL. MOST LIKELY A DUDE IMPERSONATING A WOMAN, TRYING TO GET A RISE OUT OF YOU...STOP FEEDING THE TROLL!!!!!!!!
 

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You have mistaken what I said. I said the FIRST date. I didn't say every date thereafter. I have paid for plenty of dates. Not the FIRST date.

I don't try to get anything from men.
Yes, I am considered a gorgeous girl, but I do not in any way use this to get things from men.

You all are misconstruing what I said.

A MAN, should pay for the FIRST date.
 

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How you feel about this topic may coincide with a certain archetype of modern female that has a distinct appearance.
Luveno, tell me what you meant by this...

If I was overweight, with a certain color hair or skin color.....??

I don't get it..
 

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Solve the problem and make your first date at a cool / classy coffee shop.

1. Costs $2.52
2. You get a nice caffeine buzz
3. If you don't like her you can pull a Don Vito ! "Deamons out!"

(anyone watch viva la bam?)
 

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