should i apologize?

[drift king]

is this a trap?

the girl who lost interest in me who i contacted earlier in the week i think 'might' want to meet up tonight but i cant be sure it's not just a trap for her to see if i'm still into her/available. how should i play it?

mon i sent this:

are you still planning to go away for xmas?

1 hour later:

her: hey, not sure actually but it'll probably be after the new year, how have you been? any plans for christmas?

me replying the next day:

hey, sorry for late reply. yeah i been great, been busy. no plans yet for xmas

no reply from her.

today at 12pm me: i did promise i'd spend xmas with you and i still will. dont want you spending it studying alone getting high what are your plans though?

3pm her:

hi i dont remember agreeing to sepnd xmas with you! i wont be studying i quit the course. how are you? are you doing anything this evening?


its hard for me to read into this, i know she's tryna find out if im available cos i was so coy the other day.. i dont actually know if she wants to meet up tonight. should i offer to meet up in the next text or wait and ask her what she's doing first?

i was thinking of saying something like: havent decided yet, i have a few things on tonight, waiting to see if i get a better offer or may just chill. we can chill together and go for a drink if you want. what you doing?

is this showing my a$$ too soon?

 

[Iceberg]

Considering that this is your 400th post about this one girl, seems like you'll just have to wait until Christmas to find out if it's a trap, if she's interested, and blah blah blah.

So until then, why don't you turn off your computer and go pick flowers or somethin

 

[PokerStar]

bro. just tell her you will be at so & so place at so & so time, hope to see you there. if she is interested in hanging out with you she will, but you did say she lost interest in you. and by the sounds of it, she doesnt sound to excited to hang out.

 

[Htienvu]

dude, she asked if you're doing anything this evening as a courtesy, not because she want to hang out with you. You kept banging on about she wants to spend Xmas with you, she just said she doesn't remember agreeing to it. How else can a girl reject you for you to realise? You could be out dating so many chicks right now, instead you choose to run into this dead end and not smart enough to turn your back on it.

 

[drift king]

dude, she asked if you're doing anything this evening as a courtesy, not because she want to hang out with you. You kept banging on about she wants to spend Xmas with you, she just said she doesn't remember agreeing to it. How else can a girl reject you for you to realise? You could be out dating so many chicks right now, instead you choose to run into this dead end and not smart enough to turn your back on it.

i didn't say she wanted to spend xmas with me, i said i promised her i'd spend xmas with her.. i said it twice when we were on our 2nd and 3rd dates.. and she said 'ok come over and we'll do something'.. it was more of a courtesy offer cos i felt sorry for her more than anything.

she always asks how are you? and asking what im doing this evening she's tryna find out if im seeing other girls cos i was so coy earlier in the week cos usually i reply within an hour or same day. i think it is a test i dont know.

i sent back after an hour and a half:

it was a promise i made to you, not an agreement have a couple things on but not decided yet. what are your plans?

that was the best i could come up with under these conditions..

if she's testing me to see if i have other girls then i guess i've failed or if im available. if shes testing to see if she still has me then i guess i've failed that too. i dont know what to do in these scenarios, i just play it by ear and hope it works but i agree at some point im going to have to let it be.

i am trying to get other girls, i been seeing other girls the past few weeks but it's not going anywhere or those plate options are done, it's not easy when you dont have options.

 

[synergy1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F4qzPbcFiA&feature=related

 

[Leporello]

It's not a trap; YOU'RE the one who keeps trying to meet with her.

 

[Pimp-sicle]

Serious question. After you shower and get your clothes out to get dressed, do you lay out all your clothes and analyze whether you should put your shirt or your pants on first? Thinking it might be a trap if you put your pants on before your shirt, since you already have boxer briefs on? Its possible that your boxer briefs could be testing your shirt to find out if you've been wearing other pants.

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This chick has ZERO interest in you, somehow you can't seem to understand that. What's even better is you THINK you understand how the game works, but you are so mixed up and backwards that you confuse yourself from your overanalyzing!

Some people just don't get it. Right now you are one of them; hopefully you wake up soon.






PIMP

 

[drift king]

you guys are right though, i did a major afc thing and refollowed with a P.s. text saying i was in town.

p.s. im at dinner in town now should be done around 9, we can meet up for a drink later if you want. can you be ready for me by 9.30pm? i'll come by then


her: hey, i will get ready for myself not for you i will be ready by 9.30pm. see you

we're meeting for a drink at 9.30pm. at least i think we are.. the bit at the end is a bit misleading.

we always make out as soon as we greet each other.

it's time i stepped up and escalated and bang her.. wish me luck guys.

 

[drift king]

ok you guys are right, you always are. it's about time i listened.

went on the date, she wouldn't kiss me on greeting. said everything.

spent the whole time trying to create interest and attraction just failed miserably.

went back to her place, talked some more, you cant negotiate attraction.

i started to get really wound up about her lying to me saying she didnt find her friend attractive who came to visit recently, neither here nor there. just annoyed she wasn't attracted to me and felt led on.

she'd say 'im not going to have sex with you and i never will' and 'that time we got naked even if i could have had sex i wouldnt have'. i should have just walked out at this point? i despise myself for taking that on the chin and adamant that it would happen. pure stupidity drunken arrogance.

then here's the kicker.. when i kept saying to her 'we were dating' she said 'no we weren't' and i go into a huge stupid argument with her about why we were.. so childish.. i just couldn't accept her sh1t she was talking.. i was like do 2 people go out for a drink and make out.. what is that? it's a date!

i ended up getting so wound and angry i said to her 'fvck you' i was so furious, im drunk too and i never drink but that's no excuse.. i realize i f'd up but it doesnt matter. i just feel i should have left on a high note.

she says she isn't attracted to me and never will be and i refuse to accept that.. when i told her f you, she said 'did you just tell me f you?' i said 'yeah' i was angry wound up over something silly.. she told me to leave and not contact her again..

major afc move i know, it was wrong what i did.. i had no intention to contact her again.. i went to say bye and apologize but it was too late... i wasnt going to get laid tonight unless she felt losing me would be an issue.. we wont know but i should have left on a high note let her thinking she's losing me forever rather than choosing never to talk to me again.

i shouldn't have been so rude when invited into someones place, i dont know what to think i guess it's what i needed so i know it's over. im not gona apologize im not gona contact ever again.

i'm gona listen to you guys from now on.

 

[drift king]

i really need to get some anger management or something, i dont know how or why i got so annoyed at her claiming we never dated.. it doesn't matter yet i felt so led on. i duno why i couldn't accept her not admitting we were.. it's like as i needed some justification for everything i did for her.

i lost this, plain and simple. i planned to take the high ground and shoulda left a few secs earlier.. just said good bye and wish her luck with her life and not contacted her again.

why should i be around some b1tch who emasculates me claiming she'd never sleep with me, never physically attracted to me, never attracted period no chemistry..

honestly this whole saga has made me question what you can actually do on a date to create attraction.. like i was so stubborn in thinking me meeting up with her tonight and last time things could have changed.. if chemistry isn't there it isn't there?

is it impossible to fake it in the early stages?

 

[The_Crack]

lol this thread cant be serious.

 

[drift king]

She's an AW for leading you on I guess. But you obviously care more than her, that is reason enough to end this misery. I've been there, for what its worth. Telling me that we had never dated, retroactively, after a few obvious dates, just because she had second thoughts. Classic female backwards-rationalizations.

i think this is what i needed to hear.. i feel some what confused and hurt, like a metaphorical kick in the nuts and questioning my whole belief system wondering whether what i saw at the beginning and deemed to be high IL was never really there, but seeing as you've had this before it gives me some reassurance im not going insane.

 

[drift king]

Serious question. After you shower and get your clothes out to get dressed, do you lay out all your clothes and analyze whether you should put your shirt or your pants on first? Thinking it might be a trap if you put your pants on before your shirt, since you already have boxer briefs on? Its possible that your boxer briefs could be testing your shirt to find out if you've been wearing other pants.

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This chick has ZERO interest in you, somehow you can't seem to understand that. What's even better is you THINK you understand how the game works, but you are so mixed up and backwards that you confuse yourself from your overanalyzing!

Some people just don't get it. Right now you are one of them; hopefully you wake up soon.






PIMP

you are right. 100%. i admit i was wrong. you guys have been through this stuff before, i had to learn the hard way.

even if there was not another guy in the picture before it doesn't matter. no interest zero interest. forget it. i just couldn't accept it cos it seemed like the first 3 dates originally went well and i clung on to that thought, then information i get from yesterday tell me that it never really was what it was.

 

[drift king]

should i bother apologizing for swearing at her?

i did try before i left but she was having none of it so i stormed off and said 'have a nice life'

i feel a bit guilty about it now cos at the end of the day she just wasn't attracted to me and i couldn't accept that.

this isn't a ploy for me to get her by the way.. i know there's nothing i can do so i'll walk away and learn from this embarassing experience.

she did say 'dont contact me again' so i should abide by that despite feeling guilty. i shouldn't care what she thinks at the end of the day but under everything she's a good person with a good heart and i feel bad being a d1ck.

 

[drift king]

should i really apologize?

i feel guilty for behaving badly with no manners swearing at someone when they invite me into their home, i just couldn'taccept she wasn't interested in me anymore if she ever was. i was drunk.

the point is i feel guilty, and i dont know why. it's like i recognize i was at fault, like she just plain wasnt interested yet i couldn't take no for an answer.

she seems like a good person deep down, and i want her to be happy yet for some stupid reason i feel guilty for swearing at her.

it's not some ploy to get her back, far from it. i just feel like a weak individual losing my rag with her. i dont know im just a royal afc.

i dont know what im trying to achieve by it. just been feeling guilty about it past 2 days as well as hurt. i dont know why i should care but i do. weak. seriously weak.

i think maybe im approval seeking? like it's mentioned seeking approval of others is something i need to eradicate. i dont know why i cant walk away as it is irrespective of knowing there's absolutely nothing i can do to change things, i've accepted that yet still feel the need to apologize. i disgust myself.

 

[NotAgain]

From a recovering AFC, delete her number, delete her facebook and delete her from her life. Charge her to the game and start improving yourself. It's all in your mind and once you can control that you can move on. Stop thinking about her. If you do bump into her, a casual hello will do and if she brings things up, just say sorry for how you acted and part ways.

To be be blunt, I have been reading every post you have on this topic and you really need to grow a pair and man up. There are millions of girls out there and you just don't realise it.

 

[The_Crack]

**** dude, this is like the 100th post on this chick.
Its time to let it go and move the **** on.. jesus christ. Grow a gotdam pair and be a man

 

[Tiguere]

should i bother apologizing for swearing at her?

i did try before i left but she was having none of it so i stormed off and said 'have a nice life'

i feel a bit guilty about it now cos at the end of the day she just wasn't attracted to me and i couldn't accept that.

this isn't a ploy for me to get her by the way.. i know there's nothing i can do so i'll walk away and learn from this embarassing experience.

she did say 'dont contact me again' so i should abide by that despite feeling guilty. i shouldn't care what she thinks at the end of the day but under everything she's a good person with a good heart and i feel bad being a d1ck.

No.. Just delete her number move on to other chicks.

 

[f283000]

Merged threads, no need to be making thread after thread on this same girl. I'm sure you'll get the help you need here

and I would do what Tiguere said. Women do not respect men that go around apologizing. Take it like a man, delete her contact info and move on.