Shot Down...the tale-tale marks of Low Interest Level?...

[Lawrence]

Like I said on many occassions, the number is only half of it.

Any woman that say's she is too busy...stand the fvck up and just walk away. When she say's where you going, you say "You just reminded me, I have MORE important things to do", no seeya no nothing, screww them off!

For Wyldfire, just wanted to point out that not every woman is like yourself. If a girl really likes a guy and is desperate she will wait for up to 2 weeks for him to call. She may be pissed but she will soon calm down and forgive him but you are also right. Wait too long and she basically forgets about you. To me this would'nt bother me because it would have meant that she was not all that interested in me to begin with so NEXT! Problem is for a guy is that if he call's too soon he will look DESPERATE!!! Wish we could mind read but it's not possible.

The thing about insecurities: Well men want to feel perfect so if a woman show's insecurities it's a BIG sign of weakness in the woman for a man. If a man has insecurities then he will NEXT the girl not because of her but because he knows the problem is within himself and that he needs to correct this first. So he's not really NEXTING her because he has insecurities, he's just taking time out but will use that as an excuse (nexting I mean). There's no way a man likes to show or admit any weakness. It's just in his nature. Often your right, the woman gets the blame which is not right but if I realise a problem within myself I often get a negative reaction from a woman like I have a problem with her when she knows damn right that I need my TIME OUT to correct the problem with myself. It seems that women are stuck on this "is it me?" bull. Women need to also know when a guy needs his space because I get way angry if people persist with me and close in on me when they know to leave me alone.

 

[SoSuave.com]

Moved to The Archive. Reply there.

 

[JackPrescott]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
After 5 days she might have forgotten why she liked you in the first place. I know many of the guys will tell me I don't know what I'm talking about...but...after 3 days a lot of women will get disgusted waiting for you to call. No one can be SO busy for over three days as to not have 15 minutes to call her. She probably thought you weren't interested enough in her. Or she may have thought she was your last choice to take out. I get pissed off at people after 3 days of waiting for them to call if I'm expecting them to. It doesn't matter if it's a guy or my own mother. Don't like my time wasted. Some women are like this and she might have been one of them.

I disagree wholeheartedly. IF there is REAL sexual chemistry, NOTHING will stop a woman from getting with a man, including time. Three days? I've know women who waited three years for the call, and were all excited when they got it, because there existed the sexual/physical chemistry.

Bottom line, if a woman wants you, there is no timeline, no boyfriend, husband or fiancee, no children, no parents, no school, no job, no nothing that will keep her away from you. She will go over, around or through any brick walls to be with her man.

If a woman doesnt want you, you get the "I'm busy" bull$hit. I wish women would grow a pair, and tell guys the truth, "Sorry, I have no interest in fukking you, go away"

 

[JackPrescott]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
Yes, they include "Nice Guy". But what is most telling is that they leave out the "Schmuck" part. Telling the guy he is nice is a woman's way of trying to avoid telling him he is boring, needy and a schmuck.

What I posted isn't bull****...women just don't tell guys what they really think when they dump them for the above mentioned reasons. They don't want to lampoon his ego because they know he can't handle it because he is too damn emotionally dependent on her liking him. That's the cold hard truth. You can accept it or be in denial, your choice.

And it works two ways. I have told women that they are too old, too fat, or have too many kids for me to bother dating them.

 

[JackPrescott]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
You seriously think that a woman you approach (who doesn't know you from Adam) and talk to for a half hour or so is going to remember who you are after 6 months of not hearing a word from you or seeing you? Dream on.

Um, so interest level in a woman is everything and DJs must rely on it to decide whether or not a woman is "worthy" of his time. But women shouldn't care in the least about the interest level of a man in deciding whether or not he is worth her time? Of course self respecting women are going to go about their business and forget all about that guy who seemed pretty cool but didn't act interested. Part of their business will be getting interested in men who show they are interested in her.

Yes, worshipping a woman is a turn off to her. Being disrespectful to a woman is just as much of a turn off to her. Having good manners and being courteous and considerate without being needy and too eager is the perfect balance.

Why is everyone paying attention to a feminine viewpoint? Hell, we may as well just turn into AFCs, stock up on the Porn, and quit working out, and going out. Sorry Wyldfire, but you speak for YOURSELF, not the majority of women out there. And while it is true, that all women DESPISE clinginess and even worship, the disrespectful part is not necessarily true. Women, for some reason want what they cannot have. It doesnt work that way with men. If Jessica Alba was being clingy and desperate with a man, I can GUARANTEE you that she would get fukked that night, by said man, hard, and in every body canal available. Yet the second a man appears clingy or desperate to a woman, he is nexted. Hell, the second a woman thinks a guy might actually like her, he all of a sudden is less interesting. Women LOVE A$$holes. This is a fact of life. ****y, arrogant jerks. If I treat a woman great (dinner, movies, concerts, drinks, ect..), she backs off. If I call her and ask about her day, and her kids, and her career, and her hobbies and interests, she backs off. "I am busy/sick/a relative died this week, but it was nice talking to you" 'click.

If I am aloof, dont give a fukk, like the Lebowski, and kick back, cigarette hanging out of the corner of my mouth, gin and tonic in hand, relaxing SOLO by the bar, then they come to me. It is a weirdo game, but thats how it works. Dont give them interest or attention, and they go nuts. Show them the slightest inclination that you are interested, and you turn into a pile of frog $hit in their eyes. But bring another woman in the picture, and they want your son inside their cervix.

 

[JackPrescott]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
You seriously think that a woman you approach (who doesn't know you from Adam) and talk to for a half hour or so is going to remember who you are after 6 months of not hearing a word from you or seeing you? Dream on.

Um, so interest level in a woman is everything and DJs must rely on it to decide whether or not a woman is "worthy" of his time. But women shouldn't care in the least about the interest level of a man in deciding whether or not he is worth her time? Of course self respecting women are going to go about their business and forget all about that guy who seemed pretty cool but didn't act interested. Part of their business will be getting interested in men who show they are interested in her.

Yes, worshipping a woman is a turn off to her. Being disrespectful to a woman is just as much of a turn off to her. Having good manners and being courteous and considerate without being needy and too eager is the perfect balance.

Why is everyone paying attention to a feminine viewpoint? Hell, we may as well just turn into AFCs, stock up on the Porn, and quit working out, and going out. Sorry Wyldfire, but you speak for YOURSELF, not the majority of women out there. And while it is true, that all women DESPISE clinginess and even worship, the disrespectful part is not necessarily true. Women, for some reason want what they cannot have. It doesnt work that way with men. If Jessica Alba was being clingy and desperate with a man, I can GUARANTEE you that she would get fukked that night, by said man, hard, and in every body canal available. Yet the second a man appears clingy or desperate to a woman, he is nexted. Hell, the second a woman thinks a guy might actually like her, he all of a sudden is less interesting. Women LOVE A$$holes. This is a fact of life. ****y, arrogant jerks. If I treat a woman great (dinner, movies, concerts, drinks, ect..), she backs off. If I call her and ask about her day, and her kids, and her career, and her hobbies and interests, she backs off. "I am busy/sick/a relative died this week, but it was nice talking to you" 'click.

If I am aloof, dont give a fukk, like the Lebowski, and kick back, cigarette hanging out of the corner of my mouth, gin and tonic in hand, relaxing SOLO by the bar, then they come to me. It is a weirdo game, but thats how it works. Dont give them interest or attention, and they go nuts. Show them the slightest inclination that you are interested, and you turn into a pile of frog $hit in their eyes. But bring another woman in the picture, and they want your son inside their cervix.

 

[JackPrescott]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
You seriously think that a woman you approach (who doesn't know you from Adam) and talk to for a half hour or so is going to remember who you are after 6 months of not hearing a word from you or seeing you? Dream on.

Um, so interest level in a woman is everything and DJs must rely on it to decide whether or not a woman is "worthy" of his time. But women shouldn't care in the least about the interest level of a man in deciding whether or not he is worth her time? Of course self respecting women are going to go about their business and forget all about that guy who seemed pretty cool but didn't act interested. Part of their business will be getting interested in men who show they are interested in her.

Yes, worshipping a woman is a turn off to her. Being disrespectful to a woman is just as much of a turn off to her. Having good manners and being courteous and considerate without being needy and too eager is the perfect balance.

Why is everyone paying attention to a feminine viewpoint? Hell, we may as well just turn into AFCs, stock up on the Porn, and quit working out, and going out. Sorry Wyldfire, but you speak for YOURSELF, not the majority of women out there. And while it is true, that all women DESPISE clinginess and even worship, the disrespectful part is not necessarily true. Women, for some reason want what they cannot have. It doesnt work that way with men. If Jessica Alba was being clingy and desperate with a man, I can GUARANTEE you that she would get fukked that night, by said man, hard, and in every body canal available. Yet the second a man appears clingy or desperate to a woman, he is nexted. Hell, the second a woman thinks a guy might actually like her, he all of a sudden is less interesting. Women LOVE A$$holes. This is a fact of life. ****y, arrogant jerks. If I treat a woman great (dinner, movies, concerts, drinks, ect..), she backs off. If I call her and ask about her day, and her kids, and her career, and her hobbies and interests, she backs off. "I am busy/sick/a relative died this week, but it was nice talking to you" 'click.

If I am aloof, dont give a fukk, like the Lebowski, and kick back, cigarette hanging out of the corner of my mouth, gin and tonic in hand, relaxing SOLO by the bar, then they come to me. It is a weirdo game, but thats how it works. Dont give them interest or attention, and they go nuts. Show them the slightest inclination that you are interested, and you turn into a pile of frog $hit in their eyes. But bring another woman in the picture, and they want your son inside their cervix.

 

[Split Infinity]

You know, there is such a thing as too high an interest level.

If a woman is honestly so distraught over a 5 day period with no call that she gets pissed and gives you the "I'm busy" excuse, then you were right to next her. The reason for this is that she clearly has nothing better to do with her time other than sit by a phone and wait for someone she has a slight chance to have a relationship with to call. This is acting very needy and/or self-centered, and thus is not dating material.

It's the same reason guys don't call on the first day. It conveys to the woman that they have nothing better to do with their time and that in reality the woman is their first priority. When you become a DJ you literally will not have the time to call, because you will be busy doing your own thing. If a woman is going to sit by a phone for 5 days and get pissed because I didn't call, she obviously had nothing better to do with her time. If I raise myself to DJ standard I will expect the same in the women I date, so I next her.

IMO, getting pissed at someone for not calling within 3 days of you giving them your number is selfish. Believe it or not people have other things going on in their lives and sometimes genuinely don't have the time to call someone for a few days.

Just because THEY weren't busy, these women seem to naturally assume that neither were you and thus were just playing games/making her wait on purpose.

This is someone who is needy. This is someone who is self-centered. This is someone you next.

 

[Flirt-o-rama]

Ho hum...Damn.

Okay, got the number last Tues. waited till tonight to call. Small talk, nothing smoozy or "too nice guy", kept it short, and went in for the close. Asked her to lunch tomorrow, and this is what I got:

"Oh, well I think I am going to be too busy tomorrow. I am so busy, blah blah blah blah"

I could have asked her What about Tues? or something, but just didn't seem like she was interested and I was trying to remain DJ about it, so I just okay, see ya later.

So there is the age old question: Why the hell do chicks give you their phone number, act all excited giving it too you, and then....?

In general: Sometimes a guy is handsome, but his voice sucks on the phone and you lose attraction.(I had this last week.) Sometimes you meet another guy you like better. Sometimes you hit a social frenzy and have plans for the following 5 weekends. Sometimes you want to focus on school(exams), work or hobbies and are not in the frame of mind to date. Sometimes you were not superinterested in the first place. Sometimes a guy offers a lame date. Sometimes a guy says something awkward on the phone.

This situation?

Asking a girl for the next day means you run a higher risk of rejection. If you look at a girl's calender or agenda, you may notice the following thing: Lot's of appointments close to today, less of them further in the future. If it's sunday and you say "So when are we going out, are you free on thursday lunchtime?" you have less of a chance of being rejected.

This girl also sounds like she lost interest. It does not seem like she was angry. A girl who would get angry or actually reschedule for a stranger is not emotionally healthy. Only a girl who goes out to buy Bride magazine after giving her number and spends a week fantasizing about her new found Mr.Right would do so.

 

[JackPrescott]

>>1) She's a "my way or else" chick. Life doesn't work that way, and neither do I.<<

Not necessarily. She might get the impression that you are NOT sincerely interested in her. She might think that you took so long to call to ask her out because she was not your first choice and that others turned you down. She might have been raised in a family who values good manners, courtesy and goo etiquette.

>>2)I was nothing more than passing interest to her, a guy she needed for an ego boost during that time period. If I call after that time period where she got another sucker to stroke her ego, I've basically lost my usefulness to her.<<

She might draw the same conclusion about you after not hearing from you by the third day.

>>If a girl really is interested, the fact that I called at all should please her to no end. It's not WHEN I call, it's that I actually DID call. I don't know about 50 days, but 6 days is NOT too long.<<

Okay...if your ONLY reason to wait awhile to call is to avoid looking desperate and look like you have a life...you can get that result by calling on the 3rd day. Some women take awhile to figure out if they like you or not. Some guys are the same way. Waiting too long to call DOES have the potential to lower interest instead of raising it...especially with people who place courtesy and punctuality high on their list of attractive traits in a person.

Disagreed, 110%. If a woman is interested, she will salivitate like Pavlov's dogs when they phone rings, and it's the man she wants, regardless of time.

 

[ItsOnNow]

The Dude Abides. My Life Philosophy.....

 

[JackPrescott]

Bill, this might surprise you, but I have only had 4 relationships in my life. I have had one single one nighter (it was two nights, but you get the point.) I have gone on one date with up to a dozen others, tops. I married my first serious boyfriend when I was just 18 years old. I stayed with him 10 years. Yeah, I left him, but he was beating the sh*t out of me, so that was a pretty good reason. Then I met the love of my life. I was with him for 5 years, most of which were were engaged. I didn't leave him. We had an instance where we split up temporarily for the good of the long term relationship. He had to focus on making the adjustment from being behind bars for 7 years to being back in society again. That's a huge battle for even one who is entirely committed to do well. During that time he was murdered. The next guy was basically an intimate friend. Neither one of us wanted a commitment beyond seeing each other exclusively. We were both healing from a difficult time and pretty much agreed to help each other through it. It wasn't meant to be more and neither of us wanted it to be. I outgrew it and he broke the rules we had agreed on by having sex with someone else. I told him I couldn't see him anymore and was very specific as to why. We're still friends as we were before we started seeing each other. The one (two)nighter came at the end of that. Then there was one other guy who was really great (or so I thought). He failed to mention when we first got together than he had a pregnant wife. Again, a pretty good reason for me to dump him. Basically, I have ONLY left a man if he betrayed my trust and disrespected me in a major way. I only accept dates with men I think I could genuinely want something with. Those who didn't get the second date just weren't compatible, so I didn't want to waste their time or mine. So, no, I have never just dumped a guy for a stupid reason. I made many mistakes in my first relationship, and I learned from them. Since then I have never jumped into a relationship just for the sake of being with someone. I only get involved with someone because I sincerely WANT to be with that person as they are, NOT based on some ridiculous idea of what I can turn them into.

Wow. Living f'n proof that women spread their legs for a$$holes like Pavlov's dogs.