Short Dudes!!!

[floydb25]

Well if you were 6' 5" maybe you could have doubled your count to 520!

So many BSers here lately. kind of sad really. To say height has no bearing in attraction is a lie. Women have said that they outright rejected short guys on that basis alone. And don't really care about the 'what women say' because this one is pretty cut and dry.

Not to say a shorter guy can't do good, but to lie about it is equally unhelpful.

Not sure about anyone else, but I wasn't "lying". I was always above other men because of looks... Height had nothing to do with it. IME, face is most important. Even with tall women. Disbelieve it if you want... See if I give a ****.

I bet a lot of these girls would be all game if these short guys were "stunning" / gorgeous. But since they were short, and not attractive (any moreso than other guys - including tall, built ones), they went for others instead.

Two people on the same wavelength - one tall and built; the other short and skinny... Tall guy wins. Common knowledge, really.

But most girls are pretty short anyway, so it's not a big deal. Being weak and short is definitely a huge negative, though.

 

[floydb25]

Maybe I'm delusional but at 5'8 I've never considered myself short, nor been referred to as such. Height has f!*k all to do with anything in my experience unless maybe you are at either end of the extremes.

Now a girl over 5'8... you have a convo with her, so many I meet have a MASSIVE complex about it and think they are freaks.

Same... Agreed. Many of my friends were pretty short, as well, and it was NEVER an issue. Like, ever. 5'7 - 5'9... No problems with women.

 

[Brosy]

Same... Agreed. Many of my friends were pretty short, as well, and it was NEVER an issue. Like, ever. 5'7 - 5'9... No problems with women.

It's really not an issue mate, if you are good looking and happy in your own skin the ladies don't give a f!*k.

The notion that behind closed doors people over 6ft are knee-deep in clunge because of their height alone is utter b!ll*cks.

 

[pdx1138]

To say height has no bearing in attraction is a lie. Women have said that they outright rejected short guys on that basis alone.

Truth.

All one need do to witness that is look at most of the profiles on match.com

They all pretty much have 5'9" or above as their preference.

Even the shrimpy 5' chicks.

 

[floydb25]

Truth.

All one need do to witness that is look at most of the profiles on match.com

They all pretty much have 5'9" or above as their preference.

Even the shrimpy 5' chicks.

Preference doesn't mean requirement. But it is what it is. Everyone has their own views and opinions.

 

[pdx1138]

True most of them also have over-inflated ideas of what their "ideal guy" are.

 

[ARrocket]

2 things:

1) JC sorry to call you out, but did you seriously just type "ergo" as "air go"?

2) The recommended height for 5'8" is 140 pounds?!? I'm 5'7" and currently at 145, hoping to get bigger...I definitely am not fat...

 

[Swampcamel]

Yea here's the BMI Dealy:

MEN
Height
(in shoes)
Small Frame Medium Frame Large Frame
5'2" 128-134 131-141 138-150
5'3" 130-136 133-143 140-153
5'4" 132-138 135-145 142-156
5'5" 134-140 137-148 144-160
5'6" 136-142 139-151 146-164
5'7" 138-145 142-154 149-168
5'8" 140-148 145-157 152-172
5'9" 142-151 148-160 155-176
5'10" 144-154 151-163 158-180
5'11" 146-157 154-166 161-184
6' 149-160 157-170 164-188
6'1" 152-164 160-174 168-192
6'2" 155-168 164-178 172-197
6'3" 158-172 167-182 176-202
6'4" 162-176 171-187 181-207

Anything under is considered underweight, anything more is considered overweight (not fat, just stress on your frame).

 

[Sir_Laid_A_Lot]

Well if you were 6' 5" maybe you could have doubled your count to 520!

So many BSers here lately. kind of sad really. To say height has no bearing in attraction is a lie. Women have said that they outright rejected short guys on that basis alone. And don't really care about the 'what women say' because this one is pretty cut and dry.

Not to say a shorter guy can't do good, but to lie about it is equally unhelpful.

I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU BECAUSE YOUR REALITY IS DIFFERENT FROM MINE !!!! YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO SELF-BELIEF WHEN IT COMES TO WOMEN. No one is BS here. It's funny when you are stereotypically considered a LIAR because you have slept with xxx number of women. I HONESTLY WISH YOU LUCK IN YOUR ENDEAVOURS WITH WOMEN!!!! By the way i repeat again that HEIGHT has no CO-RELATION with SUCCESS WITH WOMEN. I AM LIVING PROOF OF THAT !!!!

 

[Hustlaz Ambition]

I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU BECAUSE YOUR REALITY IS DIFFERENT FROM MINE !!!! YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO SELF-BELIEF WHEN IT COMES TO WOMEN. No one is BS here. It's funny when you are stereotypically considered a LIAR because you have slept with xxx number of women. I HONESTLY WISH YOU LUCK IN YOUR ENDEAVOURS WITH WOMEN!!!! By the way i repeat again that HEIGHT has no CO-RELATION with SUCCESS WITH WOMEN. I AM LIVING PROOF OF THAT !!!!

From what I observed concerning the "height" debate race is usually the greatest denominator. If your white your going to lose points for it, but there are the guys of RSD like Tyler Durden who kill that observation. If your black/Hispanic/Asian it won't mean a damn thing. If your trying to game a black chick, sadly height will be a factor. But, luckily they are the bottom tier women. So off with this thread. Me being 5'8 never had noticed height was something girls looked for until I got into the PU community.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

Well if you were 6' 5" maybe you could have doubled your count to 520!

So many BSers here lately. kind of sad really. To say height has no bearing in attraction is a lie. Women have said that they outright rejected short guys on that basis alone. And don't really care about the 'what women say' because this one is pretty cut and dry.

Not to say a shorter guy can't do good, but to lie about it is equally unhelpful.

There is even a whole fuvking documentary about the disadvantages of being short in life in general and with women.

And YES, I have PERSONALLY known women who FLAT OUT said they don't date short guys.

Blah blah blah, women's actions and not words?

All her boyfriends were 6'0 to 6'3. The average guy in my area is 5'9-5'10. So she's dating guys around 3''+ above average. That's more than coincidence.

So yes. Height matters. A lot.

 

[Who Dares Win]

There is even a whole fuvking documentary about the disadvantages of being short in life in general and with women.

And YES, I have PERSONALLY known women who FLAT OUT said they don't date short guys.

Blah blah blah, women's actions and not words?

All her boyfriends were 6'0 to 6'3. The average guy in my area is 5'9-5'10. So she's dating guys around 3''+ above average. That's more than coincidence.

So yes. Height matters. A lot.

Its not only with women, which as we know are most racist creatures in this world, height has a hugh impacent even in your social position as much as general beauty.

I dont expect people to believe my words so check yourself, go to mc donald and see the heigh of the people working there, then go in a bank and see the height of the people there.

Or even check the same place, go to any building and check the heigh of the janitors and compare it to the heigh of the employees and the chiefs.

The told us too many fvcking lies, "all men are equal" my hairy balls its just that somekind of racism is accepted while an other is not, so in case you break your ass of work till you get rich someone will come for your money saying "we must share more equally" while when tall joe was getting chicks with no effort and you didnt, nobody came to gave you a piece of ass.

 

[Mike32ct]

If I recall, you are also a broad-shouldered guy. That is also huge with women.

The 5'8"-ish guys I know that do well with women are also (pretty much without exception) broad-shouldered. Not necessarily because of the gym, but just naturally having a wider frame in that area.

Broad shoulders + hot face can trump height in some cases.

Not sure about anyone else, but I wasn't "lying". I was always above other men because of looks... Height had nothing to do with it. IME, face is most important. Even with tall women. Disbelieve it if you want... See if I give a ****.

I bet a lot of these girls would be all game if these short guys were "stunning" / gorgeous. But since they were short, and not attractive (any moreso than other guys - including tall, built ones), they went for others instead.

Two people on the same wavelength - one tall and built; the other short and skinny... Tall guy wins. Common knowledge, really.

But most girls are pretty short anyway, so it's not a big deal. Being weak and short is definitely a huge negative, though.

 

[020204]

A lot of guys carry muscle very differently, Tom Cruise is around 85-90kg and doesn't really look that massive. Marky Mark in the Calvein Klein ad was around 72-75kg at 5''7.5.

 

[JohnChops]

2 things:

1) JC sorry to call you out, but did you seriously just type "ergo" as "air go"?

2) The recommended height for 5'8" is 140 pounds?!? I'm 5'7" and currently at 145, hoping to get bigger...I definitely am not fat...

Hahahahhahah it was a late night by bad

 

[JohnChops]

Yup. Its been a ***** getting my shoulders broader but I will say women do seem to grab them alot now.

pft if ya aint pinning ya aint winning.... jk i just wanted to say that. Yeah wide back and shoulders going down to a slim waist is the look to gain.

 

[synergy1]

At the end of the day you can't even control your height so worrying about it is a waste of time. There are plenty of shorter guys who probably pull just fine. However in my experience, it seems that if I am out and enter a scene, I tend to be able to pull away from guys who are shorter than I am, and I have had women get pulled from me from guys who are taller than I am. actually one of my motivating factors was getting a HB pulled from me in 2004 from a taller dude and wanted to work on what I could to make sure that wouldn't happen as often. no ones perfect, no one has a perfect record.

This forum should embody the truths about seduction and women, not embrace some irrational comfortable lies. Saying height doesn't matter is the later. however, the point need not be belabored and expounded upon except maybe amongst individuals who need to adjust their game plan to accommodate. Examples are already often cited so we don't need to beat that horse up.

I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU BECAUSE YOUR REALITY IS DIFFERENT FROM MINE !!!! YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO SELF-BELIEF WHEN IT COMES TO WOMEN. No one is BS here. It's funny when you are stereotypically considered a LIAR because you have slept with xxx number of women. I HONESTLY WISH YOU LUCK IN YOUR ENDEAVOURS WITH WOMEN!!!! By the way i repeat again that HEIGHT has no CO-RELATION with SUCCESS WITH WOMEN. I AM LIVING PROOF OF THAT !!!!

Anyone can type garbage on the internet - this post is proof of that. The most obvious way to tell this is a trollololol post is wishing me luck in my endeavors...luck isn't a factor buddy. if you had any type of game you'd know that, even at your 903243 women you have slept with ( minus 903243 of course)

P.S your caps lock is on.

 

[zekko]

IMO, most guys who fall into their "normal BMI" range look pretty thin.

I personally think the idea of lifts is pretty lame. But I always wonder why tall guys don't take advantage of them. If a 5'8" guy can become 5'10", why wouldn't a 6'0" fellow want to be 6'2"?

Height is a very fundamental attraction factor. You would think shorter women would be more forgiving about it, but they may even be worse. Shorter women may feel more vulnerable, and feel they are in more need of protection, so they may be even more impressed by a tall (dominant) guy.

 

[Mike32ct]

I agree with all this.

The only problem with lifts is..

Would she notice when you get horizontal lol?

IMO, most guys who fall into their "normal BMI" range look pretty thin.

I personally think the idea of lifts is pretty lame. But I always wonder why tall guys don't take advantage of them. If a 5'8" guy can become 5'10", why wouldn't a 6'0" fellow want to be 6'2"?

Height is a very fundamtental attraction factor. You would think shorter women would be more forgiving about it, but they may even be worse. Shorter women may feel more vulnerable, and feel they are in more need of protection, so they may be even more impressed by a tall (dominant) guy.

 

[synergy1]

Height is a very fundamtental attraction factor. You would think shorter women would be more forgiving about it, but they may even be worse. Shorter women may feel more vulnerable, and feel they are in more need of protection, so they may be even more impressed by a tall (dominant) guy.

From my experience you are right. The short ones less than 5'2" will tend to want guys taller than probably 5'8" or even 5'9", but obviously this isn't a hard and fast rule or anything. It might seem to make sense for a guy who is 5'6" to target the shortest girl demographic, but odds are they would have better luck with women closer to their height. And yes while its difficult to get with women your height ( i've done it only a handful of times, and once with a taller chick) - it might be a better use of time than pursuing the smaller ones.