She's perfect, except for looks

REDblueOI

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Originally posted by drixsa
damn, even if you were caring abot what other people thought(which you shouldnt) so many ppl would kill to have a girl/even wife that had all those qualities

espically being able to party hard

if you fukk this up itll be worse than losing a pretty face
Yeah, soo many guys want a wife that will make for some amazingly ugly kids. Now, my mom is not fun, she is not cool, she is a *****, but when she married my father she was stunning [tall, good figure, definatly has great genes]. As a result my brother and I are very good looking and about 5'11 ft [my dad is 5'4]. And you know what, I'm happy with a good looking ***** for a mother, and because my bro and I are happy, my father is happy. As long as there is love, pick the woman who'll birth the best kids. Beauty might fade, but genes dont, and if your kids are depressed cuz theya re 5'4 stocky and ugly, its going to be your fault, try and live with that.

Its not being shallow, its called natural selection. Have you ever noticed how the sexiest women never have a lot of friends? I'm talkin the 9.9's, thats because women are jealous, so jealous they invent words like shallow. And if you actually looked, I'm sure you could find a pretty woman who's fun enough to hang around with.
 

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Your lucky you inherited your mum's good looks. Doesn't always work out that way good looking women give birth to children who turn out ugly like there dad.
 

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I guess I shouldn't have kids then because I have male pattern baldness. :rolleyes:

What's wrong with a girl who is above average in looks but not "stunning"? In case you didn't notice success in life isn't solely based on looks.
 

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Originally posted by REDblueOI
Yeah, soo many guys want a wife that will make for some amazingly ugly kids. Now, my mom is not fun, she is not cool, she is a *****, but when she married my father she was stunning [tall, good figure, definatly has great genes]. As a result my brother and I are very good looking and about 5'11 ft [my dad is 5'4]. And you know what, I'm happy with a good looking ***** for a mother, and because my bro and I are happy, my father is happy. As long as there is love, pick the woman who'll birth the best kids. Beauty might fade, but genes dont, and if your kids are depressed cuz theya re 5'4 stocky and ugly, its going to be your fault, try and live with that.

Its not being shallow, its called natural selection. Have you ever noticed how the sexiest women never have a lot of friends? I'm talkin the 9.9's, thats because women are jealous, so jealous they invent words like shallow. And if you actually looked, I'm sure you could find a pretty woman who's fun enough to hang around with.
that sucks that your mom is a biatch, but regardless of how happy you are it really doesnt matter, but is your DAD happy?

your mom has always been a biatch and now she doenst even have good looks anymore

you think you dad would trade her in if he could?

and whats her upside then?
 

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Honestly, if you have to even ask or post this sort of ? then I don't see you and Mrs. Gee Way Cool but a 6.5 in the lookds department going down the alter anytime soon. Shallow, perhaps but at least you're honest. And sounds like young and rather inexperienced. I mean heck, at 20.. Nevermind.

Just have fun and take it a day at a time. I mean chances are you are going to fall for her and give her a chance and then she'll dump your ass cuz you are a 5.5

Good luck. Darn I wish I had summer off!
Tamales
 

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Stick with her

That's my advice.

I've been in the same situation, and took the gal for granted, and regretted it.

Benefit from my mistakes.
 

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You're my age...you're still young. It's okay to take a break and look for a girl with the complete package.

After several periods of my life where I would date, get serious here and there, I've finally got a 9.5 girl that's the complete package, besides her occasional emotional moods, which characterizes most girls anyway.

You're not some 40 year-old looking to settle down. You've got plenty of time to try things out.
 

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Originally posted by REDblueOI
Yeah, soo many guys want a wife that will make for some amazingly ugly kids.
Yeah but this chick he's talking about isn't ugly.

She's a 6.5 which is 1.5 points above average.

Average isn't ugly.

P.S. I've seen your mom and she's not that hot and neither are you.
 

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Re: Stick with her

Originally posted by Bonhomme
That's my advice.

I've been in the same situation, and took the gal for granted, and regretted it.

Benefit from my mistakes.
I don't know that this would be the wisest course of action.

I know EXACTLY where you are coming from. I had an ex that could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch, cook me dinner, give me a back rub, AND she was HOT. I lived with this girl 6 years ago and my friends STILL TO THIS DAY talk about her.

The only problem was, I didn't get the feeling I thought I was supposed to feel when I was around her, so eventually we broke up.

Although I realize more today than back then just how much she had to offer, I did know she was pretty much everything I was looking for INCLUDING being nearly 100% my type physically even back then. On occasion I look back and wonder why I let her slip away.

She wanted to get married. I could have easily gone that route.

**BUT**

Had I stayed with her despite something inside me telling me that there was something wrong, I would no doubt be MISERABLE (or divorced) today. There was nothing that could have changed that little feeling inside me that told me I shouldn't be with her. Not her looks, personality, her giving nature, NOTHING.

So I say he needs to move on. If it is something that SHOULD BE he may realize it in the future. Until then, It's better go it alone rather than try to go against what your better judgement is telling you.
 

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Move On

If you were in love you wouldn't be worried about her looks. She'd be a ten. If you weren't in love but you loved her you simply wouldn't care. It would be about so much more than looks. When you sit around and think if the looks are good enough it's because the love factors are missing so time to move on.

Also, I want to say thanks to the guy who said you aren't some 40 year old looking to get married. Makes me feel young! Man, I love that.

Finally, real beauty does not fade. Beautiful women in their 50s are still beautiful. And it's not just about showing her off. Man, you end up looking at her often enough, she ought to look good, that is half of what you're getting out of it. When I had a really good looking girlfriend I really enjoyed buying her stuff just to see how good she looked in it even if she was rotten on the inside.

But "hot" or "sexy" does fade away. Imagine what a freak Pamela will be at 50. And, of course, the ugly just get uglier. It goes for personality, too. A beautiful ***** can become a monster, undermine your confidence, destroy your finances, and steal your children. Also, if she hasn't got a brain at 22, don't count on a lot of interesting discussion when you get old. OR, for that matter, a lot of smart kids. Though, come to think of it, my mother wasn't all that smart, but my dad had more than enough brains for both, and my mother is a lot better looking than me or my father, so never mind about the kids. ANyway, you can wait till you're 40 to think about that!

Alec
 

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Wow, thanks for all the input

Wow guys, thanks for all the input. I think the most telling comment was that "If I was in love with her, looks wouldn't matter", and I believe there's alot of truth in that. However, like I said I'm alittle weary about relationships and of course sosuave has really made me think about every aspect of dating. Before this site, I'd definitely be committed to the relationship by now. I Feel what I'm going through is a legitimate doubting phase now that I know I'm on the brink. Also, I don't think that "love" is the heal all salve that people often make it out to be.

After all the comments I think I'm leaning towards relationship. Why? Because it makes me happy to be around her.
 

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I know EXACTLY what you mean! I put up a post recently about the same topic. (Should you settle?) I'm going through the same thing. I've been going out with a woman that's genuinely a good person. She's very educated (Ivy League) ...good career...down to earth...active..healthy lifestyle...etc. We enjoy our time together greatly.

However, she doesn't do anything for me. She's not a knockout...and if you saw her in the mall...you probably wouldn't do a double take on her. ..I wouldn't even say she's above average. She's a Plain Jane. No makeup, no spandex pants and low cut tops. When we hang out...there's no sexual innuendos..no sexual tension...etc. We click though...in an easy going way..and I love hangin' out with her. I'm thinkin' of not seeing her as much and just havin' her as a hangout buddy. Thing is...I don't want to look down the road at myself as being too shallow and hittin' myself in the head for missin' out on a good thing.

What do you all think? KEEP HER ...OR TOSS HER ?

-Bub
 

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Yeah im in that kinda situation too...

Theres this girl, the IL;s pretty decent (not riskin sayin its high), but she's not the prettiest bird around... she's got a pretty nice rack though :D A bit on the more 'rounded' side...
 

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I'll be watching this post intently to see what people have to say about this! I'm sure MANY other guys are in the same boat.....trying to work their way around the average and slightly below average girls while trying to bag the ones that get their attention (no pun intended!) haha
 

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Personally when I marry I’ll be looking for a very attractive, intelligent woman with a great personality. I don’t think that that is too much to ask for, considering that so many hot woman moan these says about how 99% of men don’t interest them. Of course, if you just dating theirs nothing wrong in going out with somebody who’s a six if you really like her. It’s not as if your going to marry her!
If you have a problem with their looks, than it isn’t shallow. I had the same problem with one girl, I really got on well with her but she was a plain girl. I wasn’t sexually attracted to her. There are three billion women in the world, million of hot women, so my advice is to just get out and you will soon find what your after.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Wow,

Beckwith I am in the EXACT same situation. The thing is though I am sure that no matter what woman I was with I would get to a stage where the old, 'The grass is always greener' phenomenon reared its ugly head. The trouble is the only time that I only think of one woman is in that early infatuation stage where you are not sure whether you are going to get them or not. But once they are mine I start noticing flaws and more importantly start noticing lots of other women. There are so many different kinds of beautiful women that we see every day and we can't help but wonder.... What would being with THEM be like? Plus the fact that we can't have them (because we are in a relationship) makes them more attractive, PLUS your girlfriend will have sex with you whenever you want.

Its tough man.
 

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I had the same problem. Nice girl, funny, etc etc. Except her body wasn't good enough, so I threw her in as the "average girl".

I never really tried. She tried to occasionally hit on me, but I didn't respond. I wasn't sure I really wanted an average looker, even if her personality was perfect.


End result? I had to live with the regret. I got myself a prettier girlfriend, but I never really felt as comfortable with her. Somehow *something* seemed to be missing (wasnt as fun).

I would say go for it. If you dont, you will only regret it like me. And trust me - knowing you made a mistake is easily better than wondering what COULD have happened. If you make a mistake and break up with her, well you did your best. But if you don't do it, well you'll always be wondering what could've happened.
 

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Paul Owen

Paul Owen, I think you captured it very well. Now that I feel like I'm close to having her, I'm more critical. I guess it goes back to challenge, but I mean it seems that in a relationship, challenge is going to have to go down. I didn't notice the looks thing at the beginning as much; I hope this isn't a problem for all my future relationships.
 

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Originally posted by drixsa
that sucks that your mom is a biatch, but regardless of how happy you are it really doesnt matter, but is your DAD happy?

your mom has always been a biatch and now she doenst even have good looks anymore

you think you dad would trade her in if he could?

and whats her upside then?
My dad loves his life, he spends every spare second he can with my brother and I and we have a blast. My dad wouldn't trade her, we've had this discussion. Her upside is that she is a good whife to him, she cooks cleans and holds up a job. She is a complete *******, but she does what a whife and mother should.

Oh, and to the guy who said my moms ugly, shes in her 50's, you need to grow up. Hell, I'm 16 and I wouldn't say something like that.

I find average quite repulsive, actually. I wouldn't date a girl under a 7.0 regardless of money personality or any other factors, there is no reason for it.

Its surprising to find so many guys all battling the same problem... my advice is, befor you decide to settle:

find some buddys who approach, and spend a solid 2-3 weeks approaching better looking women. If you dont find one women in 3 weeks who's fun and sarcastic and whitty and at leased a 7, [I mean, what are the chances of that, I work with 3 two 7.5's and an 8.5] then by all means, settle.
 
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