she straight up told me we're not doing it tonite

Mjazz

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when a girl says that kind of ****, she is obviously thinking about sex, so Im guessing that if you played your cards right, there was a good chance, next time just ignore it or say something witty
 

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"You'll do what your told"- Ha! Gotta say it with a smile and a playful tone though.

Good stuff.
 

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i think it all comes down to me not advancing enough. i just played it too soft and laid back when i should have laid it down on her!

i tend to not be very aggressive and i think it has a purely negative affect on my game because the girl is usually real interested in me right off the bat and i disappoint her or make her feel awkward by not using enough KINO. i think i need to work on making the situation more comfortable for our sexual experience to escalate.

oh and btw, i didn't kiss her ass afc-style. the only thing i did that night that might be considered AFC was drive the 10 miles to pick her up. i was chilling with her earlier that night but she was riding with her friends and they all went home so i had my buddies take me home to grab my car to meet up with her again.

great advice everyone - ill be sure to keep this all in mind next time!
 

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Argh!!!
Watch the actions not the words dammit!!!

Rata: (kisses girl)
Girl: Why are you kissing me?
Rata: (Looks at the eyes then the mouth and keeps kissing)
Girl: we shouldn't do this we are friends
Rata: ok (keeps kissing)
Girl: We can't! We are alone in your room! I should leave
Rata: (kisses neck) (pretends to be standing up) ok bye
Girl: (pulls Rata close to her and starts kissing again)
 

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You should of just reframed it and made it sound like SHE was the one asking for sex.

HB: where not doing it tonight

Don Juan: whoa sloooooooooow down HB I didn’t even think we where at a point where we could even consider doing that yet… are you always this FORWARD with all the guys you meet.

Then just carry on escalating the interaction to full close.

What girls WANT and what they REACT to is to completely different things. So when she say “kiss my ass” what she’s REALLY saying is “I don’t want you to even consider kissing my ass or your toast”.
 

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Personally, I'd just say "No problem, let's just watch TV" and then withdraw all my attention - no making out, no flirting, nothing except watching TV. Or even better, you can just leave her watching TV while you do some odd jobs, write some emails or something.

Nothing turns a girl around like withdrawing attention. It makes her realise that she's not in control and doesn't have the power over you she thought she had.
 

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Advice from the Dong Fu master

Bro,


You clearly overlooked the Intelligence Gathering step discussed in my book Dong Fu: The Art of Dating

Here are a couple quotes from the book that may interest you:


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"Process every bit of info she offers as the opposite of the real truth. If she says something like, “I don’t want to have sex with anyone unless I am in a relationship with that person,” what she really means to say is, “I always have sex with people with whom I’m not in a relationship.”

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Jariel said:
Personally, I'd just say "No problem, let's just watch TV" and then withdraw all my attention - no making out, no flirting, nothing except watching TV. Or even better, you can just leave her watching TV while you do some odd jobs, write some emails or something.

Nothing turns a girl around like withdrawing attention. It makes her realise that she's not in control and doesn't have the power over you she thought she had.
Espi said:
Yep...the freeze-out. I've used this; a girl refused sex with me, so I ignored her, went in my bedroom, left her standing there in the living room, wondering what I was doing.
Damn that's rough. I can't say I've ever done anything like that. Though I've never much been in a situation like this. I think I'd feel like a total ass and pretty awkward just going about my business while she was sitting there.

What do the girls usually do?
 

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Best reply I know: Why are you talking about sex so soon? I'm just getting to know you/Are you frustrated?

Than look at her like she just screwed up her chances.
Then qualify her for some time and let her earn it.

BUT: If this is just a Low Interest girl who's pulling your strings. LEAVE NOW! And go study some more.

I know a girl who used to do that kind of stuff all the time. Whenever there would be a party at someone's place or whatever and it would be a guy, she always asked if she could spend the night there. Just to be a fuucking ****-tease. She tried it on me too. I told her 'no' and tried the whole 'being a challenge thing' just to test if it would work on her. But, like I expected, she didn't gave a fuuck. She was just seeking occasions to get ego shots and when she realised she couldn't pull my strings she just searched for another guy who was ready to be her puppydog.
AVOID THESE WOMEN AT ALL TIMES!
 

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mrRuckus said:
Damn that's rough. I can't say I've ever done anything like that. Though I've never much been in a situation like this. I think I'd feel like a total ass and pretty awkward just going about my business while she was sitting there.

What do the girls usually do?
Yeah, I do feel like a bit of a bastard when I do things like this, but for me it's not about guilt tripping her into sex; it's more about putting her ego in check.

I've never gone about my own business for long before she comes kissing upto me, or as Espi said, starts feeling guilty about what she said. It doesn't always result in us having sex, but it does turn the tables.
 

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fliptone said:
so we get to my house and we're jus chillin watchin a movie and talkin about our interests, life and relationships. somehow we get into talking about what we think of eachother and she goes: "i'm not a slut like u think i am.. we're not doing it tonight."
And you went, "Yes dear, no sex, whatever you say."

on top of that, this girl acts like she wants me to kiss her ass
And you say, "Yes dear, I'll kiss your ass. Whatever you say."

then if i do anything the slightest bit that seems like im kissing her ass, she'll say something like "oh shut up.. stop kissing my ass!"
And you say, "Yes dear, no ass-kissing. Whatever you say."


What are you getting out of this? I can think of better ways to spend your time than sitting around kissing some girl's ass.
 

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fliptone said:
... "i'm not a slut like u think i am.. we're not doing it tonight."...
Notice she used the word tonight instead of ever. So she's interested but just doesn't want you to think she's a slut. A girl had me over to her house for dinner as our first date. After dinner when things got a bit heated, she told me she never goes all the way on the first date. I said no problem and spent the night in her bed trying to drive her crazy before falling asleep. When the sun rose in the morning, I was at it again till she finally gave in.

When a girl uses the line "we shouldn't be doing this" just agree with her, back off a little, start kissing her slowly and gently, take your time and just build up to where you were before. Let her own body betray her.
 
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