she straight up told me we're not doing it tonite

[fliptone]

so i've been talking to this girl for the past few weeks that all my friends think is really hot. i finally took her back to my house the other nite for the first time. i had to drive about 10 miles to pick her up.

so we get to my house and we're jus chillin watchin a movie and talkin about our interests, life and relationships. somehow we get into talking about what we think of eachother and she goes: "i'm not a slut like u think i am.. we're not doing it tonight."

i was a bit shocked because for the past few weeks she's been telling me how much she likes me and kept telling me all this nice and promising sounding crap (a lot of this was sexual stuff she txt msged me on serveral occasions when she was drunk). i knew there was a chance we'd hook up that night but i pretty much kept my head clear of any expectations. i think somewhere after that "we're not doing it" statement, she said something to the affect of "i don't know why you went all this way to pick me up" or some bs like that.

on top of that, this girl acts like she wants me to kiss her ass then if i do anything the slightest bit that seems like im kissing her ass, she'll say something like "oh shut up.. stop kissing my ass!"

she is pretty hot and seems like the type that gets hit on a lot and usually gets what she wants. i think shes not used to the way i DONT give her all of my attention.

what is this chicks deal!?

 

[Zerix]

Stop being such a nice guy and "kissing her ass" she's even pointing it out for you! LOL This is the basics man!! Read some articles, any articles, and you'll get your answer. Any beginner DJ should even know this.

Someone else here could elaborate some more on this and what she meant what she said about not putting out... it's bs, but yeah...

 

[Zerix]

Oh my god!

Brother, brother. She gave you a test. She told you NO because she'd feel like a slut. She even said, 'what do you think I am, a wh0re?!'.

You just had to lubricate her wheels (or pvssy) to get the show rolling. You shoulda took her to your room and told her to sit down, start kissing her, make out, finger, take the panties off, put a rubber on and get the sh!t over with.

Females will test males. She will only give out the pvssy to a man if she thinks he's a MAN ENOUGH to TAKE that pvssy. Be a man. Grow some nuts.

A real man will go and get what he wants. The way I see it, you gotta caveman her and take that pvssy. If she pushes you off physically and says NO, then, you gotta stop.

Ah yes, there we go... a test.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

You guys responding are hilarious. You guys are right.

Fliptone, what da hell is she doing in your house if she's not prepared to ride the c0ck? Have you even kissed this girl? How far have you gone? You should only take her to your house when she is the one who wants it. Her talking about sex a lot is just that, TALK. She has been pushing your buttons all a long, and you as the predictable little dog, have responded right on cue.

If you are gonna take her home, there needs to be a price to pay. She must earn it. Being beautiful is just not going to be enough. It has been all her life. You needed to pre-qualify her. Why would you go pick her up 10 miles away, spend gas, time and efford, to take her to your place if she doesn't have a good reason for you to want to do it. And to attempt sex is just not good enough. She is already expecting you to put moves.

There needs to be a reason(s) for you to take her to your place, besides sex. After you weigh the benefits for you, you decide if she is worth your efford. You should have made her go over your place and make her cook. Then make her jump over your hoops. This has never happened to her.

Next time tell her to take the bus to your place, and you will drive her back if you like her cooking. If she pulls the same BS, you tell her to get going because she might miss the last bus home.

 

[Interceptor]

Bottom Line Theory states that only women with Low Interest Level test men like this.
If you just want to hit it, and then quit it, you have some work to do.
If you want something more, you have a LOT of work to do....but for what?
If you want a girlfriend with Low IL, you are just asking for misery.
If you want to get laid, there are plenty of other women who are more ready and willing than this chick.
Read these points:

somehow we get into talking about what we think of eachother

Not a great move. You don't want to give your cards away, whether you're into an LTR or otherwise.
You can't "somehow" get into this topic. She led you into it and you complied.
Not so good, bro.

she goes: "i'm not a slut like u think i am.. we're not doing it tonight."

Not necessarily as bad as many might think.
I am of the agreement that she was testing your resolve and motives.
If you had a strong game you can maneuver her into your territory in the face of this.
Remember, women don't want to be TOO Respected. She's not your mother or sister, or a nun.
Be extra careful on this point , guys.
We can get so reverential and respectful of women that we lose some of our sexuality in the process. And so does she.
If she gets respectful "mother"/"sister" vibes from you, you're done. Game over , man. No sexual chemistry.
I believe she wanted to see if you had the balls to guide her into your sexual territory and take it anyway. Remember, she DID go to your house.
This is a conscious ACTION, so that is somethign we can see and is tangible.
F*ck words, we need to see Action from her, to know and gauge our movements.
Of course, if she is showing strong physical resistance, you must STOP.

And the Holy Sh*t Ultimate AFC Test goes out to (drum roll please!):

on top of that, this girl acts like she wants me to kiss her ass then if i do anything the slightest bit that seems like im kissing her ass, she'll say something like "oh shut up.. stop kissing my ass!"

She wanted to see if you were just another chump, and yes, you were.
Dude, no "ass kissing", or "placing the p*ssy on the pedestal".
This should be INGRAINED In all of US.
Basic training , guys. Come on.....
This is where you stay cool and in control. Only the necessary showing of interest on your part,very few compliments, and not so much "gratitude" attitude. You can't act like you're blessed by her presecence,man. Like you'll never get another date and it was Divine Intervention that got her with you!
"Oh Lord, I am so grateful you brought this HOT Woman to MY HOUSE!"

Barf.....

she is pretty hot and seems like the type that gets hit on a lot and usually gets what she wants. i think shes not used to the way i DONT give her all of my attention.

"HOTNESS" Level has ABSOLUTELY NO CONNECTION/RELATION TO HER "ATTITUDE" OR MORALITY/ETHICS/INTEGRITY!
Remember that, guys.
Don't get fooled by a (stuck up, snobby, selfish) pretty face and TNA. The "Halo" Effect is plenty powerful on the gullible AFC. Don't be FOOLED.

Inside this chick's mind/heart is a greedy, Inflexible, "Show Me" and "Entertain Me" chick.
Unless you have awesome Game, and have to prove it to your Ego , chicks like this are often too hard to overcome because of so many obstacles.
You want to get laid? Or are you trying to solve Calculus problems in order to figure out what to do with her????!!!
Also, remember the idea of the AFC is that HE IS just like any other guy that gives in to her will. Knwing what you know about her, why did you do the EXACT same thing every other AFC DOES???! She's "used to getting what she wants".
Any plainer?
Do you see where you went wrong?
Here's another thing..get ready....
Women with LoW INTEREST LEVEL don't give a sh*t if you DO or Don't give her "attention". They only want their Ego stroked. She's not that into you, so the Challenge did NOT work.

DJ Dan sums it up well:

Females will test males. She will only give out the pvssy to a man if she thinks he's a MAN ENOUGH to TAKE that pvssy. Be a man. Grow some nuts.

A real man will go and get what he wants. The way I see it, you gotta caveman her and take that pvssy. If she pushes you off physically and says NO, then, you gotta stop.

 

[Monster]

I think that when you picked her up you were still in the game but you probably slipped up somewhere while you two were in your house and that made her change her mind.

 

[Serialized3]

"I'm not a slut like u think i am.. we're not doing it tonight."

How did you reply to that?

 

[Master Bates]

"I'm not a slut like u think i am.. we're not doing it tonight."

How did you reply to that?

"When did I give you the idea we're doing it later? Someone's getting their hopes up..."

 

[Gangster Of Love]

"When did I give you the idea we're doing it later? Someone's getting their hopes up..."

That will not work on broads with low interest. It's a witty, cute response, only if she's just testing, yet wants the c0ck.

Chances are he confirmed his desires for her during the countless times they talked about sex while on the phone.

Interceptor, thank you for intercepting.

 

[Serialized3]

"When did I give you the idea we're doing it later? Someone's getting their hopes up..."

Not you, silly, the OP. I just usually agree with them and change the subject, but that's a quality line. Gonna add that to my bag of Trix.

I'm betting the OP was something like "Gee, oh, gosh golly I wasn't even thinking about you that way!" :flowers:

 

[Jay Jay]

One time a girl invited me back to her house. As we are leaving she says, "but we aren't doing it."

I was like "yeah right..."

"We need to talk."

So we talked.

NO sex.

Another night I was in a taxi going home to a girls house after a date.

She says, "this doesn't mean we are having sex."

I respond by saying, "the last thing I want is for tonight to get negative. Lets just keep having a good time."

We had crazy monkey sex.

Moral of the story.

Just ignore girls when they say that ****.

JJ

 

[Serialized3]

i think somewhere after that "we're not doing it" statement, she said something to the affect of "i don't know why you went all this way to pick me up" or some bs like that.

Right THERE is where you should have said,

"Yeah, I'm starting to wonder that myself. I thought maybe you were a classier girl. But hey, the last bus across town leaves here at about 11:30, later."

And then kicked her ass out for being so disrespectful. You would have at least saved some face.

You couldn't get that puss, on the puss-gettingest day of your life, if you had an automatic puss-getting machine. Not even a chance.

 

[Interceptor]

Interceptor, thank you for intercepting.

Sh*t, bro...I owe you guys.
My pleasure, man.
Anything I can do to help my fellow Men.
I was there too.
And I am still a Work in Progress like a lot of the guys here.


Listen, guys....we are all in the same boat together.
We're all striving to be the best, to become, man.
And we all saw the light. The "Matrix" references do not fall on deaf ears here,

This is how WE roll, gentlemen.

Onward and upward.....

Thanks for the props. Props to guys like you too.



GAME ON.

 

[Last Man Standing]

"i'm not a slut like u think i am.. we're not doing it tonight.l

What then is the point of being with a hor?

 

[Gangster Of Love]

What then is the point of being with a hor?

To have intelligent, stimulating conversation, off course.

 

[JustDoItAlways]

Its time for my Anti-Slut-Defence (ASD) post again. This is an old post but it is required "thinking" for all aspiring DJs in these situations

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I've thought some more about ASD and what has been successful for me in the past. I think that you need to have a "toolbox" of methods and strategies to deal with ASD.

With any particular girl you may need to use all of them to get to your goal.

1. "Understand the Motivation." First you need to understand where ASD comes from, what is the motivation.

From the time women are little girls, they are taught not to give it up too easy, save their virginity, teased by other girls when they do give it up and labeled as "sluts" if they do sleep around. For a girl, it can nearly be the most negative label they can get.

Women will thus (very) often give you resistance (sometimes a lot) so that when they do have sex with you, they can pretend to themselves (chick-logic) and prove to you that they are not easy, that they are not a slut. In addition, they are just protecting themselves in case you go out blabbing about the encounter later.

- they need to prove to themselves they are not a slut;
- they need to prove to you they are not a slut; and,
- they don't want anyone else labelling them as a slut if word gets out about the encounter.​

How else do you get around ASD.

2. "Set the Mood." Get her horny, make her feel comfortable, get some wine (or champagne) into her. Romance her a little, run some patterns on her, have the lights down low etc. etc.

Setting the mood is all about allowing her to prove to herself that she is not a slut (chick-logic.) She should say to herself that "He did everything right so it was okay that I slept with him."

I can't go through all the different things you need to do to "set the mood" but if you just understand that it's just to make her feel comfortable about the encounter later (she wasn't a slut). All you guys are DJs so you should understand this.​

3. "Your Passion" After most of my ONSs and my frequent first-date sex nights, the explanation I have heard from the girl most often was “You just wanted me so much.”

In effect, she thinks to herself, he wanted me so much it wasn't really my fault.

If your passion is strong enough, it is a big enough compliment to a girl that it overwhelms the ASD.​

4. "Keep Trying". You will know when you are getting ASD when she says something like "we really shouldn't" or "we really can't" or "I really should go". Don't freak out, this is good sign.

Just let her play her little game(s) for a while. It is, afterall, very important to her (and to you in getting into her pants.)

Just proceed until you encounter the resistance, then back-off for a while. Do something else non-sexual, like go back to the movie for a few minutes, go take a long bathroom break, tell jokes in bed etc.

Then put the moves on her again until you get resistance again. Rinse, repeat.

After two or three times of this, almost all women will then feel vindicated that they have proved they are not a slut and then you can hit it.​

5. "Reverse Logic". Another really effective method is to just use reverse chick-logic psychology on her and say her "yeah you're right we really shouldn't", say it two or three different times using different words. If she's also giving physical resistance such as pushing you away or getting up to leave, I throw in a "Yeah, you really should go."

They always stay and come back for more with this move.​

6. "I Am Discrete". One of the motivations is her fear that other people will hear about it.

Never blab about it to anyone because you will get the big-gun ASD after, ie. last time.

In your pre-work dating, you should also never brag about any specific sexual conquests and especially any specific woman you have bagged. It is actually good if she asks you and you say "well I don't ever kiss and tell." This will get around her other fear that you will telling other people about it, even new girlfriends years down the road. Letting her know you are discrete is also a big part of breaking down her ASD.​

7. "Taste the Honey". There are a number of SS patterns designed to get her to drop her a ASD shield. I am not going to type them all out.

The point of this is to let her know that you only live once, we're both mature adults, its natural to be apprehensive, we have an incredible connection, "taste the honey" when its right in front of you.​

8. "Get Her Juices Flowing" Have you ever noticed that when you get a hard-on, you are ready to go right away.

Chicks are the same, they want to fvck when they get wet, when their puss gets engorged with blood, when it's stimulated.

Do some dry humping on her. Feel her up. Get those juices flowing.

Sounds a little crass but it is SO effective.​

9. "Set It Up For Next Time".

There may be a time when its clear she is telling you "No." If it sounds like "No, not this time but maybe next time." Keep your cool and let her say No. Women will actually feel better about having sex with you in the future if she's knows she can say No once in awhile and you won't get upset about it. You're much more likely to get sex any time you want after this.​

If it sounds like "No, I don't think we'll ever get together." Tell her "Wow, you are the biggest tease I've ever seen" and just get up and leave and leave her alone after. She'll probably come back apologizing after and you can set up a "Returning Fox".​

The anti-slut defense may continue to be needed by some women for a long-time into a relationship so you may need to vary your techniques some but just realize this is important to her.

Keep adding to your toolbox.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

JDIA, great stuff. Probably a little too advanced for some in here, but I can definitely vouch for ALL of what you just posted. You just gotta give them reasons to go through it all. The fact that she was at his house, and right away started playing games did show she was there to test him, and everything beind done right, she might have given it up.

Yet, in this case, it seems it was always an uphill battle. He really lowered his chances by getting into all those "sexual" conversations over the phone, without him doing some testing and calling her on her bluff, and see how sincere she was being. You need to have a specialized section on your "Tool Box" for phone game.

To summarize, you have to give her reasons to go ahead, during every step of the way, all the way until she's riddin' you, or risk her changing her mind.

A "Tool Box" is exactly what we need to have for every situation. I like that term, and this goes for every situation from initial intro all the way to the begining of intercourse, and hopefully even after.

That is why I always laugh when people are so against "routines", "gimmicks", or any other tools and skills that will get you to your goal. We are told everyday here, "Just be yourself", well, chief, if being yourself is not yielding the desired results, time to update the "Tool Box".

 

[Nighthawk]

"i'm not a slut like u think i am.. we're not doing it tonight."

Pointing finger "You'll do what you're told."

 

[Last Man Standing]

"i'm not a slut like u think i am.. we're not doing it tonight."

Pointing finger "You'll do what you're told."

I like this – if it is done in the right tone!

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First you need to understand where ASD comes from, what is the motivation.

From the time women are little girls, they are taught not to give it up too easy, save their virginity, teased by other girls when they do give it up and labeled as "sluts" if they do sleep around. For a girl, it can nearly be the most negative label they can get.

Women will thus (very) often give you resistance (sometimes a lot) so that when they do have sex with you, they can pretend to themselves (chick-logic) and prove to you that they are not easy, that they are not a slut. In addition, they are just protecting themselves in case you go out blabbing about the encounter later.

​

Actually this is in error - in the last forty years girls have been told the exact opposite!!!

Girls have been told to have sex and not be ashamed - it is their body and they can do whatever they want - they have the right to kill their offspring that the man's sperm created!!! They have been told to have no shame and have sex with whomever you desire - just "protect yourself!!! It has become ok to be a hor - and to have bastard children!! If you have a hor baby we'll pay for your daycare, give you food stamps. demand child support from one of the pimps that may have impregnated you - we'll give you rent assistance, and energy assistance and provide you with free medical care and implement other feminist policies to support your hordoms!!!!!!!!!! There is no such thing as the “ASD” today – that ended a few generations ago!

You get my point!!! We are a fvcked up society - on the verge of collapse - our hor policies indicate this!!

Girls by nature are engineered to reserve themselves for marriage and to one man only – they seek security for themselves and their offspring since sex always leads to pregnancy – as designed!!! No one “teaches” them virtue – it is already ingrained!! The feminist Homo/Hor movement altered this naturally inherent trait of chastity and encouraged girls outright to become hors – girls have been “taught” to be a slut and NOT to be virgins – JustDoItAnyways, the reality is the exact opposite of what you stated!

 

[Serialized3]

Girls have been told to have sex and not be ashamed - it is their body and they can do whatever they want - they have the right to kill their offspring that the man's sperm created!!! They have been told to have no shame and have sex with whomever you desire - just "protect yourself!!! It has become ok to be a hor - and to have bastard children!! If you have a hor baby we'll pay for your daycare, give you food stamps. demand child support from one of the pimps that may have impregnated you - we'll give you rent assistance, and energy assistance and provide you with free medical care and implement other feminist policies to support your hordoms!!!!!!!!!! There is no such thing as the “ASD” today – that ended a few generations ago!

Sha-Zam!