She slept with 87 men / boyfriend was a virgin before her

[SickSuffering]

tl;dr: Girl who had 87 sex partners dating guy who was previously a virgin. He doesn't know her # of partners. On Reddit, she finds the justification she was looking for.... the past is the past, she made a few bad decisions, and (apparently) she doesn't need to mention her whorish past.


Gentlemen,

I came across the following post on Reddit. I think it was under "relationships":


[Begin]
"This is a throwaway account because i don't want people to know this about me. I am posting this because I want to know how common it truly is to have sex with a lot of people, or what people actually consider a lot, and why I am this way.

I have had sex with 87 people. I forgot about 5-7 of their names, one of them was a one night stand. There are some people on my list who's name I do not recognize.(I kept a list as I went along.)

Yes, 87 is a lot to me. I guess I was a slut at times in my life, and I'm not sure why. Is it the cliche daddy issues, which I definitely have? I feel guilty and disgusting, I feel ashamed, I hate what I've done in the past, and I hate that I always have to hide it.

I am in a fully committed relationship with someone who was a virgin before me. I haven't told him, and I never ever ever tell anyone the true number. I always just say "it's more than I'd like."

I was always a really sexual person, even as a kid me and my female friend used to bring each other to orgasm by pretending we were delivering each other's babies, and then offering a "special massage." Also, my cousin and I experimented a lot and masturbated together. This happened from as far back as I remember. Maybe 6 years old? I have masturbated as long as I can remember.

I am afraid I was sexually abused as a child and cannot remember. Otherwise, why would sex be part of my mind for my entire life?

Is there anyone out there who has had as many partners as me? Am I disgusting? Is this more normal than I think? Was I sexually abused? Can anyone help me understand what is/was wrong with me?

Edit: for those of you that wrote to me and assured me past is past and sexuality is always varied, thank you. You have made me think about where I've been, and realize I am who I am, which is a good person with a few bad decisions. For those of you that slut shamed me, I wish you would judge people on more than what they do in the bedroom. You know nothing else about me."
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I'm relatively new to Red Pill, so her severe "hamstering" still blows my mind. Are all women really capable of such self delusion? Could you imagine being in a LTR, and not realizing this about your partner? Do you think you could get the truth out of her (assuming you care because you wanted a long term partner)? If so, how could you get the truth out of her? Or how could you find out?

I imagine I'll want a LTR someday, and I don't want it to be with such a woman. But honestly, if she lies, how could you find out she was such a slut? (Excuse me while I gag.)

 

[yungballa]

you can't find out. you probably won't. a lot of women lie. that's just how it is. that's the main reason people keep saying don't buy into this hollywood romance love fairy tale bull sh1t.

what do i say? just accept things for what it is and adapt accordingly. no need to complain; just adapt.
if possible, you should stay away from women like her, though. she's bound to have some negative traits within her such as cheating, lying (as she even admitted...) and more.

 

[Bible_Belt]

One girl told me, "after I hit triple digits, I stopped counting." She's 22.

 

[NorwegianDJ]

Wait, so let's have some clarity here.

On this forum we seek to better our relations with ourselves and women. This for many people includes sleeping with many women with little investment.

Why do we slvt shame? We want the exact same thing, just because it's not hard for them doesn't mean it's something they should be scolded over.

Why wouldn't you want to date someone that has had many partners? Personally as I 'gathered' more partners I've felt myself becoming increasingly sexually confident. To me, this is a big factor for an LTR. If it makes you feel less special or less like a man, then its a lot easier to fix your own insecurities than letting them dictate your dating life.

Women are human, just like us. Listening to responses like "I think women should get tattoos on the back of their neck for every different guy the bang." saddens me to the same degree as listening to radical feminists saying that all men are rapists.

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

Wait, so let's have some clarity here.

On this forum we seek to better our relations with ourselves and women. This for many people includes sleeping with many women with little investment.

Why do we slvt shame? We want the exact same thing, just because it's not hard for them doesn't mean it's something they should be scolded over.

Why wouldn't you want to date someone that has had many partners? Personally as I 'gathered' more partners I've felt myself becoming increasingly sexually confident. To me, this is a big factor for an LTR. If it makes you feel less special or less like a man, then its a lot easier to fix your own insecurities than letting them dictate your dating life.

Women are human, just like us. Listening to responses like "I think women should get tattoos on the back of their neck for every different guy the bang." saddens me to the same degree as listening to radical feminists saying that all men are rapists.

Are you a female? If not then kill yourself.

 

[CuddleJunkie]

Wait, so let's have some clarity here.

On this forum we seek to better our relations with ourselves and women. This for many people includes sleeping with many women with little investment.

Why do we slvt shame? We want the exact same thing, just because it's not hard for them doesn't mean it's something they should be scolded over.

Why wouldn't you want to date someone that has had many partners? Personally as I 'gathered' more partners I've felt myself becoming increasingly sexually confident. To me, this is a big factor for an LTR. If it makes you feel less special or less like a man, then its a lot easier to fix your own insecurities than letting them dictate your dating life.

Women are human, just like us. Listening to responses like "I think women should get tattoos on the back of their neck for every different guy the bang." saddens me to the same degree as listening to radical feminists saying that all men are rapists.

2300 posts and you ask this. Wtf mate, have you not read what Rollo has to say? If yes, why don't you agree with it? Really curious, not attacking.

 

[Jaylan]

Its a subreddit that doesn't allow any "slut-shaming". Dont be surprised that most of those comments are positive and support the OP and not so much her BF. If that place allowed free speech, you'd see a lot more people telling OP the honest-to-god truth.

She's a low quality skank. It is what it is. I would never date such a woman seriously.

 

[Von]

It was probably 87 don juans......

Who cares how many men came before as long there is none after you (LTR).

The importance is that she's quality

Personnally, 87 seems alot to me too especially if its the span of certain years but than again isn't sex every 2 weeks normal?

 

[Bible_Belt]

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Quality is a nebulous term used by men to justify bad decisions.

What exactly is quality? It cannot be defined because to each man it means something different, often based upon their own linited ability to get what they want, so they rationalize away their decision to commit to a less valuable girl.

Let's make it easy. Is there really any man here who, before seriously dating a girl, hopes that she has had lots of c0cks in her? Keep in mind this is a different question than asking if she is easy, which god I hope nobody here wants to seriously date an easy girl.

I think excessive ****s is a greater chance that she has some sexual stigmas and stiffnesses versus not, because you know she made most of those guys do it a certain way to feel somewhat in control.

 

[NorwegianDJ]

Are you a female? If not then kill yourself.

If you are at a point where you tell people to kill themselves over the internet, then your opinion is of little value. If you feel cheated by life or hate other people, feel free to PM me and we can talk about it.

Lighten up man, I was just being humorous.

Women who have that much sex usually have some sort of mental issues, be it abuse, abandonment, insecurities, etc. Plus, like Danger said, they bond less. To women, sex is an emotional experience (as is everything else), so when they desensitize themselves to their emotions they become less of a functional partner.

Would you want an LTR with a chick who has slept with almost NINETY different men? To me, any guy that would seems desperate. You can find a girl who is just as attractive or whatever else that has a belt with a quarter as many notches. We didn't even discuss STD's, fertility (maybe she had an abortion or two), tightness, or sexual desires you refuse to fulfill like weird ass fetishes she could have picked up.

But to each their own.

It's difficult to interpret intent over text, my fault, but that is also something to take into account when considering the influence you have when you post.

I'd like to know the evidence you have for your statement. Personal experience perhaps? Or anecdotal stories based on selective choices of forums?

What is sex to men then, if not an emotional and spiritual experience? If to you sex is about domination, control, empowerment of your manhood, then each to their own. I don't agree with the statement that a lot of sex = less emotions.

I don't take their amount of sexual partners into account unless it is non-existent. The correlation between number of sexual partners and STDs is surprisingly low, and so what, she can be tested. Abortions don't matter, and tightness has nothing to do with prior sexual partners - what does it take, less than a week or perhaps 2 to get back to normal? Hey, I'm all for sexual exploration.

2300 posts and you ask this. Wtf mate, have you not read what Rollo has to say? If yes, why don't you agree with it? Really curious, not attacking.

What does Rollo have to say? Post count has nothing to do with having a balanced world-view and empathy towards women, quite the opposite. I simply do not submit to the circlejerk that is 'women must be pure' 'Competing men take away from my manhood' and so forth. I can see your correlation, where unstable/insecure women may have a lot of sex, but that's a reverse causation than what you guys are arguing, which is why I think you are not correct.

 

[AttackFormation]

If you are at a point where you tell people to kill themselves over the internet, then your opinion is of little value. If you feel cheated by life or hate other people, feel free to PM me and we can talk about it.


It's difficult to interpret intent over text, my fault, but that is also something to take into account when considering the influence you have when you post.

I'd like to know the evidence you have for your statement. Personal experience perhaps? Or anecdotal stories based on selective choices of forums?

What is sex to men then, if not an emotional and spiritual experience? If to you sex is about domination, control, empowerment of your manhood, then each to their own. I don't agree with the statement that a lot of sex = less emotions.

I don't take their amount of sexual partners into account unless it is non-existent. The correlation between number of sexual partners and STDs is surprisingly low, and so what, she can be tested. Abortions don't matter, and tightness has nothing to do with prior sexual partners - what does it take, less than a week or perhaps 2 to get back to normal? Hey, I'm all for sexual exploration.



What does Rollo have to say? Post count has nothing to do with having a balanced world-view and empathy towards women, quite the opposite. I simply do not submit to the circlejerk that is 'women must be pure' 'Competing men take away from my manhood' and so forth. I can see your correlation, where unstable/insecure women may have a lot of sex, but that's a reverse causation than what you guys are arguing, which is why I think you are not correct.

I see partner count more as an indicator than as a point in itself. If a woman has had sex with many men, that to me indicates not that she's a bad human being but that she's not suitable for emotional investment from you because of one of two reasons: either her loyalty is weak and she is easily influenced, or she doesn't have any inclination to be loyal in the first place. The point being why would you want to commit in some way to such a person? This theory by the way goes beyond just this. If I'm a boxing coach and I can choose between investing in someone who has a history of jumping gyms or someone who likes mine and wants to make a future in it, who am I gonna choose?

One half is about how good an idea it is to invest in the woman from an "economical" standpoint, the other half of it is just about your own self-respect. Again I'll use an example to show how this is a general concept. This internet provider has given out plenty of cheap contracts without a binding time to other people. Why would you want to buy their more expensive, binding one instead when plenty of other people got the cheaper one? And on top of that you'd pretend like your deal is better or more special than the one they got because you're getting ripped off by comparison. You finally landed the worst deal after all the others got free handouts and then either ignore or deny that it's a bad affair.

Personally I don't mind that girls have a lot of sexual experience. I just don't have any delusions of treating them seriously as girlfriends or wives, because if they were suitable for that they would be of a different character in the first place. But that's speaking ideally. Today, it's not going to be possible to find an "unspoilt" woman, so we're gonna have to deal with it somehow unless you don't want kids. Some take the blue pill route of pretending their girl is special and investing emotionally in them, some want to get as much sexual experience as possible so they can still feel like a man, some try to find unspoilt women, some disinvest emotionally from the women they're with like a buddhist, and so on.

It really is more about what kind of character the woman has than her partner count. Let's make an example again. Some woman only had one partner, but she let him use her as a mattress. She complained about the way "he was treating her" but she couldn't stop it because she has no self control, no self esteem or whatever you wanna call it. I wouldn't want to wife up that girl either. I'd much rather have a girl who's had 5 ONS in "respectable" circumstances than that girl even though her count is lower.

 

[Glumix]

What exactly is quality?

A quality woman is a woman who gives you what you are looking for.

 

[dutchmaster]

One girl told me, "after I hit triple digits, I stopped counting." She's 22.

Nice, where can I find her?

 

[Bible_Belt]

She has a girlfriend at the moment. The last time I fvcked her, she said, "wow am I out of shape! I haven't had a real d!ck in months."

I replied, "yeah, you sure are. You really used to be able to take a pounding." She laughed. It's funny because it's true.

 

[BeExcellent]

All I'm going to say on this post (Besides Yikes!!) is that the number of partners has nothing to do with tightness. You could have a married woman who has only ever been with one guy and if he's got a large member and they do it daily...well you can figure that out...or take women who have vaginally given birth. Sometimes birth changes the canal for the rest of her days. Just saying.

 

[logicallefty]

The son of the ex bigamist wh0r I was with said when he thought back to his childhood and did some math he guesstimates that his mom could have railed 900 guys.. He said it was a different guy night after night for years.. Once I looked up her cc hole and I saw Lincoln up there he tipped his top hat to me.

 

[Glumix]

That may be your definition, but I doubt everyone shares that sentiment.

Obviously.