she says "I'm not interested in boys at the moment."

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DonDiscovery said:
Hey all,

THis girl just got out of a relationship, so I began to express a bit of interest.

Then she comes up with this line:

"I'm not interested in boys at the moment."

However, she sent a message to me the other day on facebook asking if i could teach her how to play guitar-oppurtunity for kino? (this was following on from something we talked about before).

any of you guys willing to offer an explanation?
Translation: Change boys to you. You are rejected.

Your princess is in another castle and you're in the friendzone. Don't buy that play guitar kino sh*t. Unless she's paying for lessons of course!

That's my explantaion. That's my ruling. Now go ghost on this girl (barring paying for guitar lessons) before you get hurt, which she won't care about anyway.

Case closed. Get out of my court.
 

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Not that you really care for my opinion, but I used this line when I got out of a relationship a year ago on several guys. The ex I am referring to was manipulative and mean and I just wanted a breather. I am now with one of the guys I used that line on...he is happy I did that now and waited, because now he knows he is not just a rebound.

This site uses "black and white" thinking. They lump all women into one category and will bite your head off if you say anything that suggests women dont meet their stereotype.

There are some women out there that think logically and arent slaves to their emotions...("all women are constantly looking for a relationship" hmmm okay....I know several women not like this and NEVER date anybody on purpose...and I know several guys that are incapable of being independent and are always looking for a girlfriend....but keep thinking that) However, she could be using it as an excuse so just be friends with her. If she changes her mind she will let you know.
 

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I wouldn't write this one off so soon, I had this once with a rebound girl I was semi interested in. I kind of laughed her off and told her she had the wrong end of the stick as I had just started seeing someone anyway, it definitely took the edge off things and a week later was out to dinner with her and she couldn't get enough of me (and certainly not just in a friendzone way).

Never did follow it up, as I had geniunely just started seeing another girl which ended up serious.

Maybe tell her the same? If she asks more just say you don't want to say anything about the "other girl" as it's just starting off and is not official ;)
 

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RE: Female poster: Thats because, most of the time, people ARENT being honest. Never trust, or assume the best out of anyone too soon. And certainly dont wait around for them to be "ready". You always gotta protect your heart in these situations. Its not worth the risk of being led on by someone you dont know very well.

All that usually ends up happening is, one person does all the work - while the other gladly accepts, sets the boundaries as it suits them, does the deciding, and typically ends up having their cake and eating it too. I never met someone who didnt abuse the power that was given to them - even if they werent controlling by nature. You prevent it by never allowing it to happen. People generally act as theyre allowed to - not as theyre SUPPOSED to.

You cant assume that everyone is a good person just because theyve been "hurt". *******s get hurt all the time. Doesnt mean theyre not *******s, didnt cause problems, arent selfish, and werent to blame. And actually, getting hurt badly is a good way to become an *******, and have massive baggage on top of it. *******s arent created out of thin air, you know. Dating *******s is also a red flag in itself.

Even beyond that, you just never know what type of person youre dealing with. A lot of people are selfish out there. Besides, what makes her so special that he has to wait around? Being hurt doesnt mean ****. Nobody is entitled to anything. And its not worth finding out through a pseudo-, one-sided relationship, if theyre being honest, or not. Not to mention, waiting around, being their friend, acting all nice, and etc does nothing to build attraction. And this happens a LOT when you sympathize with the damsel in distress. Trying to be the hero-savior, and all that - only to end up with nothing. And no, a friendship isnt good enough when you want more - and they know you want more (even when they act all shocked and innocent as theyre leading you on, and making you feel guilty / selfish for wanting more - which DOES happen, by the way).

Gah... Its all crap. Not worth walking on eggshells, wondering where you stand, what their intentions are, if theyre being honest, if they really like you, if youre making progress... Its emotional chaos, and usually ends badly for everyone involved. Waste of time and emotions, and putting WAY too much trust into someone you dont even know - and could very well end up being a manipulative, controlling, crazy harpy. Again, you never know - and why kill yourself finding out? Remember: Everyone puts on their best face in the beginning - especially around the opposite sex.

****ing people. :nono:
 

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kimberleah said:
Not that you really care for my opinion, but I used this line when I got out of a relationship a year ago on several guys. The ex I am referring to was manipulative and mean and I just wanted a breather. I am now with one of the guys I used that line on...he is happy I did that now and waited, because now he knows he is not just a rebound.

This site uses "black and white" thinking. They lump all women into one category and will bite your head off if you say anything that suggests women dont meet their stereotype.

There are some women out there that think logically and arent slaves to their emotions...("all women are constantly looking for a relationship" hmmm okay....I know several women not like this and NEVER date anybody on purpose...and I know several guys that are incapable of being independent and are always looking for a girlfriend....but keep thinking that) However, she could be using it as an excuse so just be friends with her. If she changes her mind she will let you know.
99 times out of 100, the girl is using that as an excuse to reject the guy.

We're not here to cater to the 1%, we're here to give the most effective advice.

You are clearly speaking from a woman's perspective, suggesting that man should pine and wait for a girl who MIGHT be part of the 1%, when the reality is that he needs to cut her loose. Her loss, not his.

You refer to one instance where you gave that line and meant it. Collectively, the men on this site could give 10000 instances where that line was a lie.
 

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Kimberleah : if you just chill out a little and start talking to the more intelligent posters here you might actually get something out of this site. Arguing with the irreconcilable isn't a good use of your time. You are intelligent but your judgement and self-control is atrocious. Stop posting pics of yourself in your underwear and start acting like an adult.

Moving on, you are talking almost exclusively about trust and betrayal. The most intelligent piece of writing I've ever seen on that is from a 1995 article. Crazy eh? Things haven't changed -- there just seems to be more hostility between men and women now. I don't see that making a happier world no matter how much economic independence or nice furniture the future brings us.

http://www.spectacle.org/995/love.html

You cannot be immune from pain and be open to others at the same time; forcing hopes out of your body is not the same as realizing them. Human society revolves around love and companionship. The converse is an attachment disorder. We are not rational ghosts posting on internet blogs; we are primates, albeit advanced ones. I've had relationships with women that fvcked me up -- the problem was that I didn't recognize what was happening, not that women were evil. At the end of the day we are all human and imperfect. That includes a lot of the men on this site -- you are presenting a tough image, so do they. Ironically enough, you both buy into the front, so easily, because you have a mutual need for each other's stereotypes. Yet probably behind all the venom and hostility you have more in common than you would probably like to admit.

I mentioned one girlfriend who was obsessed with infidelity; I didn't cheat on her, but I did end it because her obsession consumed her. She hurt me, but she hurt herself more -- in our worst moments (or even when we get hammered) we tend to abandon our protective illusions for brief flashes of clarity. You remind me a little of her. Usually girls come here because they are interested in men or curious in relationships; you are obviously here because you have some pretty substantial experiences to work out. You fit SS like a glove, honestly. A rare (but dubious) honor isn't it?

So drop the act now though. You don't have to convince us men are fvcked-up... that's pretty obvious. The only worthwhile question here is how to become a better man (or in your case, a better woman). Despite the title this is not a pick up forum.

Enjoy your stay. :cool:
 
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I was just about to start a thread on Game Theory and Relationships. I view it more of Stag Hunt given:

A - Both Parties Defect
B - You defect and your partner does not
C - Neither Party Defects

C > B > A
 
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