She Playing Games?

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

Hello, first time poster, thanks for taking the time to read!

Online Dating, I opened with "S u p H o e" and she responded positively, conversation took off from there. I made her qualify for my number by saying that she had all the qualities I wanted in a woman, only I needed to know if she was a dirt hoe and she said she was, so I gave out my number to her and then she just asked me to text her and gave me hers.

I hate to enter creep level here, but I do monitor the activity of the women who I give my number to, so like for example, i'll favorite and when I send a text, if there isn't a response right away, i'll check to see if shes online, if she is, I know interest is fairly minimal. Her activity has consistently been from afternoon until 1 AM... I know it might seem a bit weird, but I log all this stuff with the chicks I see, I mean its free information, why not right.

Ok, so now that i've kind of detailed how the situation I am in unfolded, i'll explain her a bit: She is a CEO, a decent looking chick.. I've actually spoken to her 3 or 4 times previous to this, however every time the stars do not align and I am either dating somebody or she is and back then, she wasn't a CEO, so she didn't exactly capture my attention like she has now. There were no elements of rejection on either side during our previous talks.

So, she is a chick with a lot of options, she likes being degraded and offers little resistance to it... Yet she tells me she wants to start a family... Talks about how previous Boy Friends have moved in DAY ONE, like they meet up, she gets key, likewise, one of her older boyfriends gave her a key to move in DAY ONE, these are huge red flags for me in somebody that I would potentially start a family with... By the way, we haven't even met yet, so she is talking about me moving in without even meeting me.

All this serious talk, followed by radio silence... Meetings are not exactly easy to do, I have already called her out on not meeting me citing that if she isn't interested, its all good, but she claims to be interested and to want to meet.

I'm kind of torn here, because this is an opportunity for me to start a family with somebody very desirable to do so with, but at the same time, she seems to have literally zero boundaries, I know I can get her to chase me but only through degrading her value.

I feel like I need to just walk away, any thoughts? I regularly online date, been doing it for years on and off, I have never encountered any type of situation like this.

Push for the meeting or not?

 

[backseatjuan]

You're desperate, and that's from reading first two paragraphs.

Push for the meeting or not?

No.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

You're desperate, and that's from reading first two paragraphs.


No.

Yeah, I have to limit the meetings I make because I have an ill family member, so I do the meeting then into quarantine because lord knows if these women meeting 10 dudes a day, I cant risk it.

Also, dually desperate because she has slipped away 3-4 times now.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

So....you've developed oneitis for a chick you haven't even met, yet? Damndest thing I've ever heard. You know, husbands get shiit around here, for having oneitis for their unfaithful wives. This is a woman who's slept with everyone BUT you. You might wanna lower your expectations.

Why is it a turn-on for you, that she's a CEhO?

Really, getting sex is not hard, like im not a gamey guy, im not here to spill fourth my knowledge, because I really havent needed any of it before this point, but now that I am wanting to settle down, why not do that with somebody desirable? She says she wants a family, but her behavior has hoe written all over it, I think you are right.

Also, sleeping with this chick was never a priority for me, I could of had her years ago but she was like a car salesman supervisor back then.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

If you want to settle down, and presumably have children, WHY do you want a career woman? Why is that a plus, to you?

Its not a plus for me, its a plus for my children. This is more of thinking about my future kids than anything else. I mean, to me, having a family is important, but at bare minimum, if the kids are taken care of, good enough.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

This post reeks of desperation and a scarcity mindset. The woman probably can already sense it. What comes next is you desperately texting her nonstop.

I mean this is some chick you never even met and you are already determining what she is like?

Cmon bro..be better.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

This post reeks of desperation and a scarcity mindset. The woman probably can already sense it. What comes next is you desperately texting her nonstop.

I mean this is some chick you never even met and you are already determining what she is like?

Cmon bro..be better.

Well to be fair, most women do not make more money than I do; an opportunity to be with one that does, yeah, i'm all over it. I've actually let her do all the texting which is why I've made the determinations I have, simply because she herself provided them.

Anyways, i'm moving on, I want to start an actual family, preferred without a hoe.

 

[bat soup]

She said she was a "dirt hoe" so you should definitely start a family with her. I mean, you had a conversation so obviously the next step is to become a father.

However, since she's ignoring you it may be necessary to put the family planning on hold. Btw "dirt hoes" are currently on sale at B&Q for 9.99

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

She said she was a "dirt hoe" so you should definitely start a family with her. I mean, you had a conversation so obviously the next step is to become a father.

However, since she's ignoring you it may be necessary to put the family planning on hold. Btw "dirt hoes" are currently on sale at B&Q for 9.99

Your MGTOW is showing

 

[Trez]

They all play games whether they have the upper-hand or not.

 

[redskinsfan92]

Its not a plus for me, its a plus for my children. This is more of thinking about my future kids than anything else. I mean, to me, having a family is important, but at bare minimum, if the kids are taken care of, good enough.

It is absolutely NOT a plus for your children. You children need a MOTHER, not an incubator who runs back to her career and tosses them in the nearest education camp.

 

[Trez]

It is absolutely NOT a plus for your children. You children need a MOTHER, not an incubator who runs back to her career and tosses them in the nearest education camp.

Exactly the purpose of a wife should be that all you have to do is go to work. Food, clothes, cleaning the house and homeschooling your children should be your wife's role. That's want. Just go to work and come home to a healthy meal, a clean home, clean clothes, and well educated and taken care of children.

 

[Trez]

Exactly the purpose of a wife should be that all you have to do is go to work. Food, clothes, cleaning the house and homeschooling your children should be your wife's role. That's want. Just go to work and come home to a healthy meal, a clean home, clean clothes, and well educated and taken care of children.

And an emphasis on homeschooling. These lazy women today that send their children to liberal brainwash camps is atrocious. Not a real woman!

 

[HyenaPrince]

It is absolutely NOT a plus for your children. You children need a MOTHER, not an incubator who runs back to her career and tosses them in the nearest education camp.

Yes, they do. More in their early years than later. It's critical to have a mother figure from birth to about 4-5 years of age. The older a child gets the more a solid father figure is important. Otherwise you have a whole generation of feminine boys who don't know how to behave properly (obviously there are exceptions).

This is an interesting first hand experience comment by a user on reddit:

I'd like to compare my own experience. I don't have the science, but I do have skin in the game. My parents divorced when I was 13, and my mother gave my father custody of all 6 children. I would say that we all are less empathetic, "roughly speaking". The two youngest boys swear to this day that they were abandoned by their mother and refuse to speak to her. The girls are "tough cookies" - one lives by herself in a country in South America, another is a waitress, another has landscaped an entire hillside with heavy equipment.

My wife doesn't feel comfortable around any of them. I figured it was just the Northern Arizonan culture she didn't care for. Maybe it's a combination.

https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/83g3q4

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

It is absolutely NOT a plus for your children. You children need a MOTHER, not an incubator who runs back to her career and tosses them in the nearest education camp.

I agree, however I would be handling all the daily duties, I enjoy raising kids, I've spent a lot of my life raising children, I work in group homes professionally, I basically work with children all day every day, this is why i've shifted my focus more to having a Breadwinner mom as opposed to a Stay At Home Mom, I can stay at home, work and raise kids.

But, that nonwithstanding you do make a really great point and your input is appreciated. Personally, I will be in my grave before I add to the fatherlessness epidemic.

 

[bat soup]

Your MGTOW is showing

Thank you, captain Save A Dirt Hoe

 

[Trez]

I agree, however I would be handling all the daily duties, I enjoy raising kids, I've spent a lot of my life raising children, I work in group homes professionally, I basically work with children all day every day, this is why i've shifted my focus more to having a Breadwinner mom as opposed to a Stay At Home Mom, I can stay at home, work and raise kids.

But, that nonwithstanding you do make a really great point and your input is appreciated. Personally, I will be in my grave before I add to the fatherlessness epidemic.

You're naive and inexperienced.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

You're naive and inexperienced.

Based on?

 

[Trez]

Based on?

You don't understand that committing yourself to a woman that works a lot, especially in a ceo position is a bad idea. She won't have time for you, what's the point? Especially if you work a lot, you want her available for you when you're off. If you're thinking about getting married and having kids you want her to be around to take care of your kids and make it so all you have to do is go to work and come home. Any dynamic other than this is doomed to fail. But you're going to do what you want so just stop asking questions and pursue it.

Another thing is that it would be good if you had your own business and she stayed home, take care of the kids and help you with your business from the house.

These duel working relationships are unnatural and a terrible idea. She should be putting you first, not a job, she can't do both.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

You don't understand that committing yourself to a woman that works a lot, especially in a ceo position is a bad idea. She won't have time for you, what's the point? Especially if you work a lot, you want her available for you when you're off. If you're thinking about getting married and having kids you want her to be around to take care of your kids and make it so all you have to do is go to work and come home. Any dynamic other than this is doomed to fail. But you're going to do what you want so just stop asking questions and pursue it.

Another thing is that it would be good if you had your own business and she stayed home, take care of the kids and help you with your business from the house.

These duel working relationships are unnatural and a terrible idea. She should be putting you first, not a job, she can't do both.

I'm going to make a thread on this thread, where I explain why I am doing what I am doing. I came here expressly to ask advice about pushing for a meet up with her, I did not come here seeking advice on who I should have kids with, but I cannot deny, some great points have been made and i'm glad I made the thread, but the fact that you all are trying to deter me from doing what I am doing, is speaking to me that there is an opportunity here for some learning, on both sides.