She Never Contacts, Unless I Contact Her First!

[BackInTheGame78]

I keep seeing recurring themes in your posts...you seem to want women to put in a lot of effort before they have any real reason to. You seem to make it clear to these women you just want to fvck and not much else. Why would they put in a lot of effort? What are you offering them they can't easily obtain elsewhere. Guys that only want to fvck are everywhere. Most women want something more than just that.

 

[Bigpapa]

I keep seeing recurring themes in your posts...you seem to want women to put in a lot of effort before they have any real reason to. You seem to make it clear to these women you just want to fvck and not much else. Why would they put in a lot of effort? What are you offering them they can't easily obtain elsewhere. Guys that only want to fvck are everywhere. Most women want something more than just that.

The main problem with the pua knowledge is that it is quite extremist , and people think that if you put more effort than “ hey . Let”s **** “ and along this line you are a simp .


It is a big siffeeence between being a simp and being persistent , something that most guys will never really understand

 

[soulforge]

Advice from the old lady:

Some women are not going to initiate early on. They will respond but not initiate. If she is one of these she is reluctant to assume the male role of leading. So be a dude & reach out & ask her out. If she is warm & responsive? She likes you but is looking for a man who will take the lead & make a move. So do it.

Women like this are receptive to men who take initiative. Otherwise they think you don’t like them well enough and they move on to another man who shows initiative.

I myself am that way. I don’t chase after men. It feels too masculine and forward to a feminine lady. I will show my caring through responsiveness, warmth, receptiveness and I will be fun pleasant company. But I will not run after a man screaming “Pick Me!” “Pick Me!”...that feels too masculine, too overt, and puts the man in a receptive/submissive stance...which kills attraction.

I want to be the girl in the interaction. So too do lots of other women. Be the man so the woman can be your feminine complement.

Men who expect to be chased and who expect me to lead & initiate are not decisive men in my book. I’d rather wait for a man who knows what he wants and makes a move. And there are many feminine women who are waiting for the same thing...even in today’s day & age.

I have reached out to her maybe 8-9 times.. She keeps saying that she will meet me soon when it's possible.. But that never happens.

She only wants sex, no relationship. However the sex is not happening.. She always says soon, but never gives a precise date.

Which puts me in the situation of having keep reaching out.

It's becoming too much hard work

 

[soulforge]

I keep seeing recurring themes in your posts...you seem to want women to put in a lot of effort before they have any real reason to. You seem to make it clear to these women you just want to fvck and not much else. Why would they put in a lot of effort? What are you offering them they can't easily obtain elsewhere. Guys that only want to fvck are everywhere. Most women want something more than just that.

You are Sooooooooo wrong. She has made it very clear. She does not want a relationship.. She only wants fun, sex!

 

[Bigpapa]

You are Sooooooooo wrong. She has made it very clear. She does not want a relationship.. She only wants fun, sex!

mate , I do not want to be a d1ckhead , but apparently you always end up in this situations ... it is quite uncommon for someone to go through this kind of things all the time

for sure you do something wrong ...

 

[Lookatu]

I have reached out to her maybe 8-9 times.. She keeps saying that she will meet me soon when it's possible.. But that never happens.

She only wants sex, no relationship. However the sex is not happening.. She always says soon, but never gives a precise date.

Which puts me in the situation of having keep reaching out.

It's becoming too much hard work

Next time only reach out to anyone only 1-2 times max. If you're reaching out more than that, girls will know they have you.

She only wants sex but maybe not with you as a priority if she's not acting on it. Remember action over words.

Why do you keep reaching out? I mean you've been on SS for awhile to know better.

 

[soulforge]

So I have tried to meet this girl around 8x already.. But she is very vague about dates to meet up.

Around 4 weeks ago, she messaged me, and asked me, if I was at home.. She wanted to come over and bang.. But she contacted me out of the blue and I had friends over. So I had to decline.

Since then I asked her to meet again. And she said, she will try SOON but nothing has happened since.

Just as a test. I decided to stop initiating text messages to her.. And the moment I stopped initiating, I never heard from her again.

The ONLY way we can talk is, I keep texting her first.. The moment I do not text.. It's over.. I never hear from her again.

So in order to get a possibile lay off her.. I will have to do 100% of the pursuing

 

[soulforge]

mate , I do not want to be a d1ckhead , but apparently you always end up in this situations ... it is quite uncommon for someone to go through this kind of things all the time

for sure you do something wrong ...

Or... She is an attention wh0re, stringing me along.. And I am doing nothing wrong

 

[soulforge]

Next time only reach out to anyone only 1-2 times max. If you're reaching out more than that, girls will know they have you.

She only wants sex but maybe not with you as a priority if she's not acting on it. Remember action over words.

Why do you keep reaching out? I mean you've been on SS for awhile to know better.

Exactly.. This is why I have decided not to reach out any longer.

 

[Bigpapa]

Or... She is an attention wh0re, stringing me along.. And I am doing nothing wrong

as rule , you try 3 times , with some time between them , and if after this 3 tries you do not manage to meet with her , then drop her and that”s it

dunno how you play it , but if I were you , I would be like this

You : “ hey missy , how your adventures look like ? “
Her : “ bla bla “
You : “ let”s grab a bottle of red wine “
Her : “ sounds good “
You : “ how your schedule looks like this week or next ? “
Her : “ I will let you know “
you : “ cool “

then you wait for her to reach out . If she does not reach out , then you wait 1-2 months , and reach out again

you: “ hey , sorry I was super busy lately . How Life is treating you “
Her : “ bla bla bla “
You : “ yeah , I think last time when we spoke we agreed to go grab some wine . How your schedule looks like ? “
Her : “ I will let you know “
You : “ cool “

if she does not come back , then you drop her and that”s it , and never open her again

what is important is to always escalate ... and if she is dodging you all the time it means that you are not high on her priority list

 

[BeExcellent]

Ok. So if she isn’t on the relationship train then disregard what I said above. If sex is all she wants (all she states that she wants) then take it at face value, do not invest feelings in her and tell her to hit you up to bang...if you can you will, otherwise no worries.

That invites her contact and frees you to get on about your life unencumbered.

Your job is to not run emotional bandwidth on the matter and simply go about your man business.

If she falls in with you on occasion, great. If she doesn’t, great.

 

[soulforge]

Good post. She is definitely not looking for a relationship, all she wants is sex.

The situation got a little confusing because, I initially reached out to her maybe 3-4 times & tried to pin down a day to meet and have sex.

She was very wishy washy, claiming that she definitely wants to bang soon, but no actual date.. Simply it will be soon.

After 3-4 attempts I got bored of the situation & backed off.

Around a week after I backed off, I got this sudden out of the blue text off her, telling me that she still wants to meet and have fun, and that she is bored & needs fun in order to get through lockdown.

I simply told her, sure I am up for that.. I didn't try to pin down a precise date because she had already shown flakey behaviour when it comes to precise dates by using the term SOON alot.

I simply left the ball in her court.. Precisely 5 days later Saturday night, I get a text off her... Are you free tonight?

Problem was I wasn't free. She left it too late in the dau, and I was with some friends.

So I declined & told her, we can re arrange for another day. She seemed happy about it & we exchanged a few flirty texts.

After two days I messaged her & we exchanged a few naughty texts.

After another 5 days I messaged her again & suggested she gets a taxi over to my house soon.

She replied back with, she has been so busy etc recently, but will definitely arrange something soon.. SOON is her favourite word.

So I just left it at that.. Ball in her court... Now I had already reached out to her 3-4 tines over the last week or two.

So I decided to just leave ball in her court & stop messaging her.. Let her make some effort in texting me for a change.

And there in lies the problem.. 10 days have gone by & she hasn't reached out once.

So I don't see why I should keep chasing her down endlessly.

I gave her an invite to come to my place, the way I see it is, she either reaches out and takes up that offer... Or I move the fuk on, and stop wasting time on her

 

[soulforge]

Ok. So if she isn’t on the relationship train then disregard what I said above. If sex is all she wants (all she states that she wants) then take it at face value, do not invest feelings in her and tell her to hit you up to bang...if you can you will, otherwise no worries.

That invites her contact and frees you to get on about your life unencumbered.

Your job is to not run emotional bandwidth on the matter and simply go about your man business.

If she falls in with you on occasion, great. If she doesn’t, great.

Good post. She is definitely not looking for a relationship, all she wants is sex.

The situation got a little confusing because, I initially reached out to her maybe 3-4 times & tried to pin down a day to meet and have sex.

She was very wishy washy, claiming that she definitely wants to bang soon, but no actual date.. Simply it will be soon.

After 3-4 attempts I got bored of the situation & backed off.

Around a week after I backed off, I got this sudden out of the blue text off her, telling me that she still wants to meet and have fun, and that she is bored & needs fun in order to get through lockdown.

I simply told her, sure I am up for that.. I didn't try to pin down a precise date because she had already shown flakey behaviour when it comes to precise dates by using the term SOON alot.

I simply left the ball in her court.. Precisely 5 days later Saturday night, I get a text off her... Are you free tonight?

Problem was I wasn't free. She left it too late in the dau, and I was with some friends.

So I declined & told her, we can re arrange for another day. She seemed happy about it & we exchanged a few flirty texts.

After two days I messaged her & we exchanged a few naughty texts.

After another 5 days I messaged her again & suggested she gets a taxi over to my house soon.

She replied back with, she has been so busy etc recently, but will definitely arrange something soon.. SOON is her favourite word.

So I just left it at that.. Ball in her court... Now I had already reached out to her 3-4 tines over the last week or two.

So I decided to just leave ball in her court & stop messaging her.. Let her make some effort in texting me for a change.

And there in lies the problem.. 10 days have gone by & she hasn't reached out once.

So I don't see why I should keep chasing her down endlessly.

I gave her an invite to come to my place, the way I see it is, she either reaches out and takes up that offer... Or I move the fuk on, and stop wasting time on her

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Bad timing. You had the chance but you had other plans. Clearly she views you as somewhere farther down on her list and not number 1. When the others aren't available and she is in the mood then you get random opportunities. Might be the only chance you get.

 

[soulforge]

Bad timing. You had the chance but you had other plans. Clearly she views you as somewhere farther down on her list and not number 1. When the others aren't available and she is in the mood then you get random opportunities. Might be the only chance you get.

This is just my opinion, but I doubt she had many other options.

She doesn't go to any bars or clubs. I have never seen her on any dating site, the last time we spoke 2-3 weeks ago, she mentioned that she hasn't had any sex with anyone other than her long term ex.

Maybe she has other options, but I am a little doubtful.

Either way I had the opportunity to bang, but was too busy.

I don't think reaching out again will help.. Simply leaving the ball in her court & stop chasing her down is the best option

 

[Bigpapa]

This is just my opinion, but I doubt she had many other options.

She doesn't go to any bars or clubs. I have never seen her on any dating site, the last time we spoke 2-3 weeks ago, she mentioned that she hasn't had any sex with anyone other than her long term ex.

Maybe she has other options, but I am a little doubtful.

Either way I had the opportunity to bang, but was too busy.

I don't think reaching out again will help.. Simply leaving the ball in her court & stop chasing her down is the best option

Maybe the ex is still in her life

 

[BackInTheGame78]

This is just my opinion, but I doubt she had many other options.

She doesn't go to any bars or clubs. I have never seen her on any dating site, the last time we spoke 2-3 weeks ago, she mentioned that she hasn't had any sex with anyone other than her long term ex.

Maybe she has other options, but I am a little doubtful.

Either way I had the opportunity to bang, but was too busy.

I don't think reaching out again will help.. Simply leaving the ball in her court & stop chasing her down is the best option

Women ALWAYS have plenty of options.

 

[dude99]

Good post. She is definitely not looking for a relationship, all she wants is sex.

The situation got a little confusing because, I initially reached out to her maybe 3-4 times & tried to pin down a day to meet and have sex.

She was very wishy washy, claiming that she definitely wants to bang soon, but no actual date.. Simply it will be soon.

After 3-4 attempts I got bored of the situation & backed off.

Around a week after I backed off, I got this sudden out of the blue text off her, telling me that she still wants to meet and have fun, and that she is bored & needs fun in order to get through lockdown.

I simply told her, sure I am up for that.. I didn't try to pin down a precise date because she had already shown flakey behaviour when it comes to precise dates by using the term SOON alot.

I simply left the ball in her court.. Precisely 5 days later Saturday night, I get a text off her... Are you free tonight?

Problem was I wasn't free. She left it too late in the dau, and I was with some friends.

So I declined & told her, we can re arrange for another day. She seemed happy about it & we exchanged a few flirty texts.

After two days I messaged her & we exchanged a few naughty texts.

After another 5 days I messaged her again & suggested she gets a taxi over to my house soon.

She replied back with, she has been so busy etc recently, but will definitely arrange something soon.. SOON is her favourite word.

So I just left it at that.. Ball in her court... Now I had already reached out to her 3-4 tines over the last week or two.

So I decided to just leave ball in her court & stop messaging her.. Let her make some effort in texting me for a change.

And there in lies the problem.. 10 days have gone by & she hasn't reached out once.

So I don't see why I should keep chasing her down endlessly.

I gave her an invite to come to my place, the way I see it is, she either reaches out and takes up that offer... Or I move the fuk on, and stop wasting time on her

This girl is all talk and the only thing she wants is attention and validation.

You tried. "Soon" isn't plans. "Soon" isn't a counter offer. "Soon" is keep validating me.

Stop wasting your time on this one.

 

[soulforge]

This girl is all talk and the only thing she wants is attention and validation.

You tried. "Soon" isn't plans. "Soon" isn't a counter offer. "Soon" is keep validating me.

Stop wasting your time on this one.

It's not that clear cut, because she did intact try to come over to my house for sex a few weeks ago, but it was short notice & I had to decline.

After around 2 weeks I suggested we meet up again & she responded with because of child care issues, it will be soon.

However SOON has been used by her several times before.. So I won't be giving her any attention or validating her, till she reaches out with an offer to meet.

I am working on other woman, have a potential date on Saturday, so no big deal.

 

[dude99]

It's not that clear cut, because she did intact try to come over to my house for sex a few weeks ago, but it was short notice & I had to decline.

After around 2 weeks I suggested we meet up again & she responded with because of child care issues, it will be soon.

However SOON has been used by her several times before.. So I won't be giving her any attention or validating her, till she reaches out with an offer to meet.

I am working on other woman, have a potential date on Saturday, so no big deal.

Stick with the new woman. The first one did offer to come when you were busy. Offer but nothing actually happened. She may have come if you weren't busy, but she hasn't put much effort into rescheduling.

Stick to your new plan of the new chick. I dont think you will hear too much from the other one.