She lost interest after I talked about my boundaries

[summersky]

Hi everyone,

had already 6 dates with this 31 year old girl but no sex yet. She is an attractive, old fashioned kind of girl who wants to take it slow. Invited her to my place but she said that she isn't ready for that. The dates were really good, a lot of laughing, touching, light kissing. We always had good and interesting conversations and the connection was great.

Everything seemed to go well until the topic of friends of the opposite sex came up on the last date. She has some male friends, one of them is her best male friend and they know each other for 11 years. I told her, that I dont't want my future girlfriend to talk to any male friends because that always leads to problems in the relationship. Told her, if a woman wants to be with me, she has to drop these kind of friendships. Told her, that most of the time the "male friend" wants more and is just waiting for an opportunity. She told me that she is not attracted to her best male friend and that he never made a move. She can't understand my point of view, told me that it is about trust and that her male friend is like a brother to her. I told her I believe her but it is about respect, not about trust. She told me that i seem like a jelous, possesive man who isn't sure of himself. I told her she is wrong, it is just about respect and healthy boundaries.

At the end of the date she seemed a bit cold and distant. When I text her, it is the same. She is still responding but has lost interest I think. I know I should't have come up with this topic before sex happened but I did. Maybe you will tell me to leave her alone if she isn't the kind of woman I like but I would love to have her as a plate. Is it possible to keep her and if yes, how do I act from now on? Should I tell her that I thought about it and understood that my boundaries are exaggerated? Should I tell her that she was right and that I won't tell her to end her friendship? Should I say what she wants to hear just to keep her? Or should I say nothing about it and just suggest a new meetup? Like I said I am not interested in a relationship with her but would like to have her as a plate.

What do you think?

Regards
summersky

 

[Manure Spherian]

It’s up to you. I have a female friend from college, who actually is like a sister and cousin, and knows several of my family members and introduced me to one of my closest friends. We never wanted each other sexually.

You could assess what kind of “friend” this guy is after meeting him, had your relationship progressed. And that’s easy to do.

While I don’t like the phrase “it’s current year,” it’s fitting here. It’s 2025: women gate keep sex and relationships. Some guy can try to maintain RP frame and a woman can tell him to shove that up his a$s and get the next waiting man.

 

[The Duke]

Hi everyone,

had already 6 dates with this 31 year old girl but no sex yet. She is an attractive, old fashioned kind of girl who wants to take it slow. Invited her to my place but she said that she isn't ready for that. The dates were really good, a lot of laughing, touching, light kissing. We always had good and interesting conversations and the connection was great.

Everything seemed to go well until the topic of friends of the opposite sex came up on the last date. She has some male friends, one of them is her best male friend and they know each other for 11 years. I told her, that I dont't want my future girlfriend to talk to any male friends because that always leads to problems in the relationship. Told her, if a woman wants to be with me, she has to drop these kind of friendships. Told her, that most of the time the "male friend" wants more and is just waiting for an opportunity. She told me that she is not attracted to her best male friend and that he never made a move. She can't understand my point of view, told me that it is about trust and that her male friend is like a brother to her. I told her I believe her but it is about respect, not about trust. She told me that i seem like a jelous, possesive man who isn't sure of himself. I told her she is wrong, it is just about respect and healthy boundaries.

At the end of the date she seemed a bit cold and distant. When I text her, it is the same. She is still responding but has lost interest I think. I know I should't have come up with this topic before sex happened but I did. Maybe you will tell me to leave her alone if she isn't the kind of woman I like but I would love to have her as a plate. Is it possible to keep her and if yes, how do I act from now on? Should I tell her that I thought about it and understood that my boundaries are exaggerated? Should I tell her that she was right and that I won't tell her to end her friendship? Should I say what she wants to hear just to keep her? Or should I say nothing about it and just suggest a new meetup? Like I said I am not interested in a relationship with her but would like to have her as a plate.

What do you think?

Regards
summersky

6 dates in, still no sex and she won't go to your place...this girl is not interested in being your "plate".

Women don't like guys who are wishy-washy. They want to see that you are congruent with who you say you are.

Next time instead of telling someone who they need to be, let them show you who they are and then you decide if you can acccept it. If you can't then you stop seeing her, or fuhk her and just keep it casual.

 

[justaroundthecorner]

You saw her 6 times, there was no sex (even not a lot of kino), you presented her your idea about relationship. She provided you with her idea and offended you. At this point, even w/o sex, she should be at least ready to go to your place and be on the same page with you when it comes to relationship.

Btw. She is taking its slow only with you. She is looking for obedient man that will accept she might want to have male friends irrespective of having boyfriend.

Verdict: Go no contact, let her look for someone else and let yourself find more loyal type ("wife material") as she is not one for you. This kind of women was never compatible with me. Btw. You are right, I am the same and my wife is the same - we do not need opposite sex friends as you are supposed to be her best friend as well - not some other guy. That's mature approach to personal life.

If you are looking for wife material no sex after 6 dates is not a red flag as long as she is sending you green lights in remaining areas (you are kissing, touching, she likes you, she wants to be with you, she is responsive and positive about you, you agree on most of the important topics etc.). Wife material or serious LTR material is like driving constantly on green lights (except sex green light may be further than closer to you - especially if the woman is a virgin) - alas, if she is not a virgin delaying sex past 5th or 6th date usually means you are not considered as great option.

Also, remember that, counterintuitively, gaming in 30-35 age bracket is tougher than gaming in 23-28 bracket (28-30 being transformation years between brackets).

 

[Gamisch]

6 dates no sex?

After like 3 you should already count your losses. Especially if she doesn't want to go home with you. And believe me, a 31 y.o woman doesn't need a thorough explanation on how and why male friends are not advantageous to her dating life. That kinda /completely debunks your theory that she's a good traditional woman. Sounds more like a typical new age modern woman to me, the type who wants to have her cake and eat it too.

As usual, you shouldn't be to mad about it. This wouldn't go anywhere anyway...believe me; IF she would REALLY like you she would explain her point of view on how innocent and non threatening her friend is. She wouldn't allow her " friend " to rob her from the great relationship and she would downplay his role significantly even if it would only be temporarily.

She looked for a reason to dismiss you and found it. On to the next.

 

[New_Journey]

She is looking for obedient man that will accept she might want to have male friends irrespective of having boyfriend.

Who told you that? She did? A woman will drop everything for a man she really likes, you don't know what you're saying.

If you are looking for wife material no sex after 6 dates is not a red flag as long as she is sending you green lights in remaining areas (you are kissing, touching, she likes you, she wants to be with you, she is responsive and positive about you, you agree on most of the important topics etc.).

This is $tupid. You are assuming every woman who does that is wifey material, you easily manipulated. What you are describing is a woman who high interest, but wait for 6 dates is a no.

I told her, that I dont't want my future girlfriend to talk to any male friends because that always leads to problems in the relationship. Told her, if a woman wants to be with me, she has to drop these kind of friendships. Told her, that most of the time the "male friend" wants more and is just waiting for an opportunity. She told me that she is not attracted to her best male friend and that he never made a move.

Who the fvck are you to tell her anything?

 

[BeExcellent]

Advice from the old lady:

Agree with @The Duke here. This girl is not going to be a plate. She's more a relationship girl. She is screening you to see if you want her; or want her as an option.

According to your own post you want a plate, not a relationship. Ok. Then why do you care at all who she is friends with? Don't give her "relationship" rules if all you want is a plate. You get to do whatever......and so does she.

Oh. You don't like that? You expect her to obey relationship rules like no guy friends and you want her only having sex with you while you have sex with whoever as you please?

Um. That ain't how this works my dear.

Like her I have close male friends. All but one are men who I have never been involved with but who are attractive desirable guys. I'm much older than y'all, but my longest tenured male friends have been steadfast in my life for 40 years and 34 years respectively. The 34 year friendship is with a man I dated for a year at 22. We split and after some time became friends. We've seen each other marry & have kids with other people. Awesome. We want the best for one another. My husband met one of my close male friends the night I met him (I was out with a mixed group including my friend).

No way on Earth I'd ever give up a great friend of many years over some dude I met a month ago and had 6 dates with. I'd think "who the hell do you think you are? These people have been friends of mine for years through thick & thin."

My husband has gotten to know my friends (including male friends) and he can clearly see & observe that they are NOT orbiters. They have their own women they are dating or interested in.

My husband has several close female friends. One is an ex gf. She was a bridesmaid in our wedding (and I only had 2, maid of honor & bridesmaid).....I like her and she's become a great friend of mine. My guy friends have become good friends with my husband too, its a "we" thing.

So yes you are better off to listen to women and observe what they do. She will show you who she is. Otherwise you appear insecure, jealous, immature & unreasonable. This is now her impression of you.

No wonder she has withdrawn. You have misstepped here in a pretty major way. She is likely to fade out. If you want to salvage things just ask her out and never mention this boundary thing again. If she agrees she really likes you....

But if all you want at the end of the day is a plate? Who cares what she does/who she is friends with/who else she is seeing????

You can't have it both ways my dear.

 

[SW15]

What do you think?

Now would be a good time to drop her. She is in no rush to have sex with you. She is also seeking a longer term relationship. You've already determined you don't see her as a long term relationship option.

6 dates and no sex is a bad sign.

Everything seemed to go well until the topic of friends of the opposite sex came up on the last date. She has some male friends, one of them is her best male friend and they know each other for 11 years. I told her, that I dont't want my future girlfriend to talk to any male friends because that always leads to problems in the relationship. Told her, if a woman wants to be with me, she has to drop these kind of friendships. Told her, that most of the time the "male friend" wants more and is just waiting for an opportunity. She told me that she is not attracted to her best male friend and that he never made a move.

Who the fvck are you to tell her anything?

@summersky had every right to ask her to drop her male friends as a condition for an LTR with him.

In the past, I had a platonic female friend. I was not physically attracted to her because her looks were mid. She had an interesting personality. I never made a move and I didn't have interest in doing so. I did gain some good insight into women's dating lives as a result of knowing her as a friend.

At one point, some man told her that she had to cease communication with me or he would dump her. This was rather early in their interaction. Guess what? She stopped communicating with me. I knew it was because of the guy.

Anyway, around 7-10 months later, she contacts me. She says that interaction with the guy failed. She claimed emotional abusiveness. Whatever.

Our friendship resumed ever so slightly after that, but then we parted as friends.

A significant reason for the failure of the friendship failed is because of that period of time where a guy demanded that she cease contact with me.

That was one of the few times in my life where I had a platonic female friendship with no agendas or attractions. It still ended up being a lousy experience.

It's very difficult for men and women to be friends. I don't recommend male-female platonic friendships. Acquaintanceships can work.

I have been disappointed that none of these girlfriends/wives of my local area friends/acquaintances have ever tried to introduce me to someone to spark up a relationship.

No way on Earth I'd ever give up a great friend of many years over some dude I met a month ago and had 6 dates with. I'd think "who the hell do you think you are? These people have been friends of mine for years through thick & thin."

Other women would. I just gave an example of a woman who did that to me.

 

[justaroundthecorner]

Who told you that? She did? A woman will drop everything for a man she really likes, you don't know what you're saying.

She decided to meet with him multiple times, yet no pants were "dropped" down, she is most probably not a virgin at her age and she certainly is not very interested in him, therefore it is obvious to assume she is ready to date somebody multiple times in spite of having average interest in the person, therefore even if it's true that a woman will drop everything for a man she really likes, there's no such man in the life of the woman that OP met - thus the mild interest in OP and several dates.

This is $tupid. You are assuming every woman who does that is wifey material, you easily manipulated. What you are describing is a woman who high interest, but wait for 6 dates is a no.

I clearly wrote "If you are looking for wife material" - If persons are seriously considering each other as long term partners, sex may come later than sooner (it's easy, you declare serious intentions, she is like "ok, let's check that" and you are waiting longer than 5 dates for honey. Except once you dated her -let's say -10 times and you are still there - sex eventually happens, relationship happens as well. There's nothing stupid about that - when I was looking for wife material I looked past my sexual interest in my wife - I have qualified her on multiple other fields as well (I wanted her to be smart, caring, elegant, I wanted to know what she thinks about politics, what is her real interest level in me, what's her need for attention from non-relevant ppl/NPCs/"friends" etc.). The rules for qualification for "wife" or "serious LTR" should be higher than "is she hot enough? :O" or "Is she hot enough to make other guys jealous ?:O" - I never really cared about that.

Regarding looking for a plate - ofc there is no reason to go past date 3 or 4 if he is just looking for a plate, however OP seems to like the girl a bit more he wants to admit even before himself

No way on Earth I'd ever give up a great friend of many years over some dude I met a month ago and had 6 dates with. I'd think "who the hell do you think you are? These people have been friends of mine for years through thick & thin."

What's the point of meeting some dude then? Sounds like a waste of some dude's time.

 

[BeExcellent]

Right @SW15 and the guy who she ditched your friendship for ended up being a flake in her life. Y'all's friendship never recovered so now she has lost both a good friend as well as a romantic interest.

That's dumb in my book. One thing people will tell you about me is that I am loyal. To my man; to my friends. And if a man who is interested in me doesn't respect my loyalty to long established friends?

He doesn't receive my loyalty as his woman. Simple.

Its a character thing. And guess what? If a friend repays my loyalty with disrespect/disloyalty? I drop them. And I've had to do that several times along the way in life.

 

[BeExcellent]

She decided to meet with him multiple times, yet no pants were "dropped" down, she is most probably not a virgin at her age and she certainly is not very interested in him, therefore it is obvious to assume she is ready to date somebody multiple times in spite of having average interest in the person, therefore even if it's true that a woman will drop everything for a man she really likes, there's no such man in the life of the woman that OP met - thus the mild interest in OP and several dates.



I clearly wrote "If you are looking for wife material" - If persons are seriously considering each other as long term partners, sex may come later than sooner (it's easy, you declare serious intentions, she is like "ok, let's check that" and you are waiting longer than 5 dates for honey. Except once you dated her -let's say -10 times and you are still there - sex eventually happens, relationship happens as well. There's nothing stupid about that - when I was looking for wife material I looked past my sexual interest in my wife - I have qualified her on multiple other fields as well (I wanted her to be smart, caring, elegant, I wanted to know what she thinks about politics, what is her real interest level in me, what's her need for attention from non-relevant ppl/NPCs/"friends" etc.). The rules for qualification for "wife" or "serious LTR" should be higher than "is she hot enough? :O" or "Is she hot enough to make other guys jealous ?:O" - I never really cared about that.

Regarding looking for a plate - ofc there is no reason to go past date 3 or 4 if he is just looking for a plate, however OP seems to like the girl a bit more he wants to admit even before himself



What's the point of meeting some dude then? Sounds like a waste of some dude's time.

When you are serious about someone the time you spend on other friendships naturally recedes as the primary relationship progresses.

There is no need to "declare a boundary", rather you simply sit back and observe what happens.

I have not dropped any of my male friends. In fact I take one of them to his chemo treatments if he needs a ride and my husband and I help him if/when he asks.

But all of my friendships including with my male friends have receded in light of my marriage. This is normal. We are still buddies, I just naturally interact with them less and my single guy friends know that I'm not going out with them to run around now like we did before. I don't think a married woman should do that....but I don't need my husband to tell me so. Duh. Just last weekend my husband got a wild hair to go to a bar my male friends frequent (we were out nearby), so we did.

Two of my buddies were there. One had a gorgeous new girlfriend (she was cool, I quite liked her). They were both out with me the night I met my husband. My husband went right up & said hello & we all hung out for a bit. No Big Deal.

As Duke said, you observe & let a woman show you who she is. Setting these boundaries like a jealous 13 year old is NOT So Suave.

 

[justaroundthecorner]

I have been disappointed that none of these girlfriends/wives of my local area friends/acquaintances have ever tried to introduce me to someone to spark up a relationship.

It's easy, only you considered her as platonic friend. Besides, I do not know why guys think they are friends with female if they are single and the female they spend time is single too - they are in fact options for them - for social connection, for better humour, to kill boredom. Definition of friendship includes true caring about other person's interest, sometimes even against difficulties - I doubt you found that kind of behaviour in the opposite sex "platonic friend" that is single too.

True friendship is something that is formed via same sex social bridge e.g. in male-male social relationship or in female-female social relationship. Everything between male and female that are not having sex, that resembles friendship is just an advanced form of acquaintanceship or is a "tag-teamed" friendship, formed through same-sex friend or close acquaintance (like e.g. you are married and together with your wife you like Mr & Ms. Smith - Mr Smith comes because he likes you and Ms Smith comes because she likes your wife).

You always care for friends. You do not care too much about acquaintances. Exception may be e.g. your older female cousin, but I just qualify such ppl as my family.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

It’s up to you.

Not any more.

Now would be a good time to drop her.

Too late. Dude's already been dropped.

Why do so many people confuse boundaries with trying to control another's behavior?

You have criteria.

If she meets your criteria, you keep seeing her.

If she doesn't you drop her.

In this case, she dropped you because you didn't satisfy her criteria of being OK with her male friends.

And her already weak interest vanished.

 

[BeExcellent]

Not any more.



Too late. Dude's already been dropped.

Why do so many people confuse boundaries with trying to control another's behavior?

You have criteria.

If she meets your criteria, you keep seeing her.

If she doesn't you drop her.

In this case, she dropped you because you didn't satisfy her criteria of being OK with her male friends.

And her already weak interest vanished.

Correct and succinct.

 

[SW15]

I have been disappointed that none of these girlfriends/wives of my local area friends/acquaintances have ever tried to introduce me to someone to spark up a relationship.

It's easy, only you considered her as platonic friend..... You do not care too much about acquaintances.

I'm guessing that none of the girlfriend/wives of my local area friends/acquaintances ever considered me a friend. At best, I was considered an acquaintance. I doubt any of them ever gave much thought to me.

I would have thought that some girlfriend/wife of someone in my social circle would have done more for me.

That's supposedly how these social circle introductions happen. It never played out like that for me.

Advice from the old lady:

I have close male friends. All but one are men who I have never been involved with but who are attractive desirable guys. I'm much older than y'all, but my longest tenured male friends have been steadfast in my life for 40 years and 34 years respectively. The 34 year friendship is with a man I dated for a year at 22. We split and after some time became friends. We've seen each other marry & have kids with other people. Awesome. We want the best for one another. My husband met one of my close male friends the night I met him (I was out with a mixed group including my friend).

No way on Earth I'd ever give up a great friend of many years over some dude I met a month ago and had 6 dates with. I'd think "who the hell do you think you are? These people have been friends of mine for years through thick & thin."

My husband has gotten to know my friends (including male friends) and he can clearly see & observe that they are NOT orbiters. They have their own women they are dating or interested in.

My husband has several close female friends. One is an ex gf. She was a bridesmaid in our wedding (and I only had 2, maid of honor & bridesmaid).....I like her and she's become a great friend of mine. My guy friends have become good friends with my husband too, its a "we" thing.

I think opposite sex friendships can be problematic.

I haven't had a girlfriend with what I'd consider close male friends. Some girlfriends have had something that resembles friendship or an advanced form of acquaintanceship as @justaroundthecorner describes it. It has never interfered with any of my longer term or even shorter term relationships.

I try to screen for this issue ahead of time. I will ask about this stuff on 1st/2nd dates before sex.

At the end of the date she seemed a bit cold and distant. When I text her, it is the same. She is still responding but has lost interest I think.

Now would be a good time to drop her.

Dude's already been dropped.

Correct and succinct.

@summersky has not officially been dropped. She is still responding.

This is a discussion of semantics at this point.

@summersky can officially drop her by ghosting or sending her a text that it isn't meant to go forward. He can take pride in the fact that he was the one to officially walk away.

This woman won't care if he walks though. The interaction is dead either way.

 

[BeExcellent]

I'm guessing that none of the girlfriend/wives of my local area friends/acquaintances ever considered me a friend. At best, I was considered an acquaintance. I doubt any of them ever gave much thought to me.

I would have thought that some girlfriend/wife of someone in my social circle would have done more for me.

That's supposedly how these social circle introductions happen. It never played out like that for me.



I think opposite sex friendships can be problematic.

I haven't had a girlfriend with what I'd consider close female friends. Some girlfriends have had something that resembles friendship or an advanced form of acquaintanceship as @justaroundthecorner describes it. It has never interfered with any of my longer term or even shorter term relationships.

I try to screen for this issue ahead of time. I will ask about this stuff on 1st/2nd dates before sex.

Fair enough. For me, I was raised by a great father with tremendous character (not perfect by any means) and my father's best friend was a woman (my dad was there the night her husband of 60+ years picked her up for their first date.) So I grew up seeing very solid friendships between men & women.

Additionally I was a tomboy and grew up hunting, fishing, tinkering on cars, fixing stuff, building stuff, watching sports and playing ball. I was socialized from childhood to really understand men and men's interests. My best childhood friends were the boys I rode bikes, played cards, built forts and played ball with. So women and the ways of women were things I learned many years later in life.

So I get that makes me a little unique. Its frankly part of why I stick around here. I have a real interest in men and mens issues because of those early/lifelong bonds from the males in my life, so its no surprise I have male friends.

Most women are not like that. I actually had to learn NOT to be buddies with men I had attraction for. But a man who meets me for the first time doesn't know all that. He just sees a hot girl and expects me to run the same script as any other hot girl

So I will strongly and forever disagree that men and women being real friends. I've seen it firsthand and experienced it firsthand all my life. So I know for a fact it is entirely possible.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Just like with every post like this one, here’s a huge disclaimer: we don’t know your situation in detail — we don’t know how your game is, how you look, your personality, how you talk to her, how often you initiated texting, or how your conversations went. All we have to go on is what you shared here.

With that out of the way, for future reference: a “plate” (or lover) refers to a FWB arrangement, where both parties occasionally meet up to hang out and have sex. A relationship, on the other hand, is a monogamous commitment where the end goal is to build something long-term, and both people share the same intentions, goals, and values to grow together, deepen their bond, and work toward a shared future.

You could argue that every woman starts off as a lover and then moves up or down the ranks depending on whether you want to pursue a monogamous relationship or not. Also, the feeling has to be mutual, it’s not just about what you want.

With that in mind, when it comes to plates/lovers, you typically don’t care if they’re seeing other people, going clubbing, or maintaining male friendships. As long as you invite them out, they accept, you have fun, and you’re hooking up, then everything is good. Meanwhile, you’re silently filtering in the background for women who could eventually be relationship material, but you’re not forcing that conversation upfront.

Your issue here is that you skipped the fun and FWB stage and jumped straight into treating her like you were already in a relationship. You brought up heavy expectations (like cutting off male friends) before even building a real physical or emotional connection. From her perspective, you came off as jealous, controlling, and insecure, even if that wasn’t your intention. There is nothing more anti-seductive than coming across as a moralizer, someone who is rigid and trying to impose their standards on others rather than simply enjoying the moment.

At this point, trying to “talk it out” and explain yourself will probably only make things worse. You can’t negotiate attraction. Your best move is to stop bringing it up, act like it never happened, and simply invite her out again for something light and fun. Focus on rebuilding the good energy you had before. If she accepts, great, keep it playful and physical. If she flakes or stays distant, then you have your answer: the attraction has dropped, and it’s time to move on.

Lesson for next time: connection first, boundaries later and only after a woman has earned more of your investment.

PS: Telling a woman you have certain boundaries, then breaking them just because you like her too much or feel you don’t have better options, is the definition of settling, and women can feel that weakness instantly.

 

[SW15]

I was a tomboy and grew up hunting, fishing, tinkering on cars, fixing stuff, building stuff, watching sports and playing ball. I was socialized from childhood to really understand men and men's interests. My best childhood friends were the boys I rode bikes, played cards, built forts and played ball with. So women and the ways of women were things I learned many years later in life.

I can imagine how someone growing up doing those things would have male friends.

I was raised by a great father with tremendous character (not perfect by any means) and my father's best friend was a woman (my dad was there the night her husband of 60+ years picked her up for their first date.) So I grew up seeing very solid friendships between men & women.

I didn't see either of my parents having opposite sex friendships.

My parents had much bigger issues than that. Their relationship was not healthy in any way.

I get that makes me a little unique. Its frankly part of why I stick around here. I have a real interest in men and mens issues because of those early/lifelong bonds from the males in my life, so its no surprise I have male friends.

It is unique for a woman to stick around a men's seduction forum for nearly 10 years.

Women will only start to care about men's issues when they have a son. A childless woman or a woman who parents daughters will not care much for men's issues. Women with sons tend to care more about men's issues because they see the impact on their sons. With that said, it's not nearly at the same level as men caring about men's issues.

Most women are not like that.

It is true. This is a portion of why the opposite sex friend problem hasn't interfered with my relationships and interactions.

I have generally avoided male-female friendships. The one time I had a friendship with a woman where I had zero physical attraction, it ended poorly.

I have some positive acquaintanceships with women. I have also had some acquaintanceships with women that have left a sour taste in my mouth.

 

[summersky]

Thank you for the answers! I know it was a mistake to talk about that because I already knew that I want to keep it casual. May be true that her interest level is not high. Who knows, maybe she is also looking for something casual. Like I said I had a great time with her and there was a lot of touching, kissing and sexual energy during the dates. I would love to continue. Propably it's too late but I would love to hear more opinions about how to act now.

 

[BeExcellent]

Read what @Clockwerk50 said. Do exactly as he directed.

If she accepts, awesome, go have fun & be cool. If she won't accept or accepts but flakes? Move on.

Just digest what you have learned for next time if this is done.