She has two called 'fvck buddies'

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women want sex.

Same as you and I.

She met a couple of Don Juan's at the bar a while ago, everyone agreed that the realation would be a causal one and they have sex occationally.

If you would stop talking to this girl all the time, and start acting the way a confident man would, demand a date, be mysterious, she would throw those guys away like sour milk. Without you even asking.

What conserns me in your post is how depressed you are about this girl. If I am reading your post right you havn't even gone on a real date yet. You talked on the phone, you email quite a bit, but you don't "know her". That is how she feels, she probobly likes you, but she isn't going to trust you until you meet up and have a good time together. Futhermore she is going to expect that as the man you feel that way as well.

I guess what I am trying to say, is she told you about her two fb's and you got defensive you became noticably pissed, If you had kept an objective distance, you would have picked up on the fact that she likes to f***, and if just asked her out, you would be posting a story about a new FB you just picked up.... a little used
 

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What I'm getting from all of this is that you need to work on your "inner game" Aerospace. Realize that you're worth any woman's attention... and she should have to earn it! When you're at that point you won't have to say to yourself "I'm used to dealing with rejection." Convey (and let it actually be true) that you are self-confident, can get other girls, and are not hung up on her and she will be all the more attracted to you.

Also, you're going from liking this girl to calling her a "bytch." Just make sure that when you do something like that you're demeaning her because you know that she is one, and she has done something wrong... Personally I think sleeping with other people isn't wrong. Right now she's testing you, and you can choose to pass and be another one of her "Stallions" or next the girl. If you can't deal with the jealousy issue, then just get over it and move the hell on! I think it was David D. that said that the time between when you meet a girl you like and you actually get together is when you should be MEETING MORE GIRLS. It's good advice.

Oh yea... She's calling 20 times a day?? Decide if that's the kind of person you'd EVER want to be with.
 

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Emotional tampon

I strongly disagree with NEXTING this girl, I'll tell you why:

1) The next girl will also e banging multiple guys, you just won't know about it.

2) She will make a good emotional tampon, so you won't seem needy to the next girl.

3) You can be honest and get advice from her on fasion, hair, etc and let her know you want to look damn fine so you get banged like a poon eatin, porn star.

4) The FEW women who do give good advice are the ones who are playettes. If you ever MUST accept female advice, get it from this chick. She's more likely to be able to verbalize what you really need to hear.

5) She sounds pretty damn cool. She's one of us, treat her well.

6) See if she's open to playing with other women. Brotha, you could be hooked up. Act like the other guys bother you and try to play this card to get yourself in a 3 way.

7) *Not Recommended for this application* Threaten to tell her other **** buddies gfs/wives if she isn't seeing you as often as them, only as a last resort. I've done this with some married chics, I doubt it will work on a single one. It also depends on who she is seeing.

8) Take her to swinger clubs. Another way to incease your number of scores very quickly. If you want to maintain a high score with your wings, you need shortcuts like these or to be really good.

9) Be honest with her that you use material, try new things on her. Big deal if you start to loose her. Experiment with bringing her back. If you've really ****ed up, see 7 as a last resort.

10) The mo tail ya get, the mo tail ya get. Practice new sexual techniques on her.

She is good practice for the real thing.

As a last resort, send her to me and I'll have a long, hard, memorable, screamingly loud, deep "conversation" with her. :)
 

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Re: All women...

Originally posted by everywomanshero
All women bang multiple guys @ some point. It's so much easier for women to get laid than the average man that when they are in heat they go ape****. It does not mean she's not a quality woman, it just means you know about it as opposed to the other women who have successfully hidden it from you.


Just deal with it. All women bang multiple men at one or more points in their lives. A significant percentage of children born in marriage of Western societies have a father other than the husband. How much more information does one need before he gets it? This is the way it is. Enjoy and be glad for it has gotten me laid soo many times now :) O, and the one you think is so precious and special, me or some other guys just like me really enjoyed banging her while you were sitting around waiting for her to call.
Did you directly tell her that you want to fukk her yet, or are you still being her tampon?
 

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Why should I tell her I want to bang her? It's fvcking obvious, mate.

By the way, yesterday, after ignoring more than 4 calls and her 'cuddle me' last resort, i sent something like this to her:

''You should not take me for granted. I'm sure you'll make a nice friend, but try and understand I like to control my life, and my universe. I'd like to cuddle you and please your senses in a way impossible to do from here, and via sms. It would be ridicolous, and I do not pursue such things. Let time change us and the way we feel. If you have a little patience, and know how to enjoy the chase, we'll get along quite well. Otherwise, you'll obtain not much more than having bothered me. And I've got so many girls around me, it's not really the case, isn't it dear?"

I'm on vacation now, I could see her even if I wanted, being more than 3000 km far from her. I'll be back on January the 8. Her birthday is the 13th. I hope to be able to see her for the first date before I have to share her presence with her friends and companions. I also hope to get in a good shape... to make things clear, now I weigh something along 105 kg (I'm 190 cm tall)... I don't think she like to have sex with warthogs... ^_^ I should hit the gym as soon as possible...

...she did answer with something like:

"Our friendship has just been born. What will happen, we don't know. But I can understand your point of view. And I like you, and thank you for the time you shared with me."

I ignored her all day, today. She sent me 4 sms and a pair of void calls. I called her a while ago just to give a bit of so called 'anticipation' to her (you know, one sted back, two steps ahead and so on) - but kept it short, speaking less than 1000 seconds. I hope being witty and a bit arrogant, confident and showing my talents will work with her. I trust her to not be completely shallow, so I don't give a **** about my looks (curious? check them here: Me)

It's difficult to wait other 10-15 days just to see her for the first time (she sent me plenty of photos by the way), but this is making me stronger, and I'm learning a bunch of useful things. As Nietzsche says: what does not kill us, makes us stronger.
 

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What part of NEXTing her do you not understand? Cut off all contact with her and seek other women. That means not answering any of her calls, period...not just for a few days, weeks, months, or whatever. You have one-it-is and it's showing.

You're trying to find justifications for calling her. "Anticipation" my @$$. She's clearly not interested in you, or else she would have f'd you by now. Her words mean nothing; it's her actions.

She has you wrapped around her little finger and you think by acting different, ****y, and making ultimatums will change things, but they WON'T, because she already KNOWS what you're really about. She doesn't care what kind of attention you give her -- act however you want -- as long as you give her attention and that's what you're doing...giving her attention.

But keep ignoring our advice.
 

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Originally posted by AmIAFC
What part of NEXTing her do you not understand? Cut off all contact with her and seek other women. That means not answering any of her calls, period...not just for a few days, weeks, months, or whatever. You have one-it-is and it's showing.

You're trying to find justifications for calling her. "Anticipation" my @$$. She's clearly not interested in you, or else she would have f'd you by now. Her words mean nothing; it's her actions.

She has you wrapped around her little finger and you think by acting different, ****y, and making ultimatums will change things, but they WON'T, because she already KNOWS what you're really about. She doesn't care what kind of attention you give her -- act however you want -- as long as you give her attention and that's what you're doing...giving her attention.

But keep ignoring our advice.
You keep ignoring my posts. I'm on VACATION, 5000 km far from her. My penis is not 5000 km long, pal! I have to wait 10 days to go back home. I haven't got one-itis. Do not project your past misfortunes over my life. And try to have more insight. It's clear that you are not reading my posts. Maybe you just suffer from what Germans call Schadenfraude, that is the pleasure to bask in other people's misfortunes. Or to create them.

And, another thing: who said I cannot pursue other relationships as long as I'm courting her?
 

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This girl isn't really acting like her intentions are honest.

I mean, she's doing everything she can to keep you hangin on the end of the line, sitting around trying to figure out what she's up to and what she wants. In reality, she's playing perfectly into your insecurities.

You think it was any accident that she told you about her fvck buddies? No, no way she would have revealed that information unless she knew it would trigger that desperation in you. She was expecting you to react the way you did. Most guys would be pretty put off by that, and leave - and if she was afraid at all of you leaving, she'd have witheld that statement to avoid it.

So what did you do that gave her the impression that you wouldn't stray? You may be asking yourself this same question, and my answer would be that, most likely, you simply failed to see the fishing line and the hook when she threw you a little bit of bait, and took a healthy swallow of her bs and now your hooked. What I mean is that she probably played attention games with you - allowing you to get somewhat close and then pulling some stunt that either required you to chase her or hinted that she'd leave, and you played into it perfectly. For example, maybe she broke down on the phone "I'm just not sure I'm ready for (variation: I deserve) a man who treats me well" and you jumped into the trap telling her "Of course you are! And I am that man!"

That example is just one of many games girls play, but think back if there was ever a time when she seemed unsure about whether or not anything really should happen between you two and you took the role of trying to convince her. For the record, this should never happen.

Especially unnerving to me was her statements saying that she would see if you are worthy of dumping her FBs over. Did you really respond to that? That was a blatant game, the kind that attention wh0res play with guys that they're never going to fvck. I can't tell you how many times I've seen that game result in the guy being reduced to a pile of emotional baggage and the girl telling everybody how he's a desperate loser who she never liked, and nobody knows the difference because they weren't around to see her lead him straight into a brick wall. I can tell you, however, that I have never seen that result in the guy getting the girl. Never.

And now you're trying to salvage this by telling her things like you did above, that you will see how things happen and you have other girls blah blah blah. It's all just talk, and talk is cheap. If you want to convince her of anything you have to do it with your actions. This is hard, especially with her being 3000km away, but the fact of the matter is that saying that you have other girls banging down your door is actually telling her that you don't, because if you did you wouldn't have to say so nor would you be putting up with so much drama from one that isn't even right there to please you.

If you want to see what she's really after here, she has to really believe she's losing you. You have to show her that you're not very interested, and make her feel like she has to convince you that you really want to go out of your way to meet up with her. Right now it's the opposite, and you're doing all the convincing. If she thought she was losing you, she might act different. If there really is any interest there, she'll come after you, and if you play the game right you can flip the script so that she's the one trying to prove herself. The first step towards this is being 100% willing to lose her.

And here's a tip for the future - don't discuss relationships before they have actually become relationships. All of this serious talk about what you might become seriously sucks all of the fun out of it, and really tends to ruin it before it even begins. You should be playful and flirtatious, and try to avoid serious discussions of "what are we" when you really haven't become anything yet.

You want to play her game? Ignore her, but make it seem like you aren't. Send her a friendly text message that you wont be able to call her today, and drop of the face of the Earth until tomorrow. Call her at the busiest place you can possibly manage to put yourself, prefereably with female voices surrounding you even asking you questions (even if this means hanging out with your sisters - let her imagination make it something else) and be really friendly like you really want to talk to her, but just can't.

Actions speak much louder than words, and this being unavailable yet sounding interested at the same time will knock her off balance, as she'll be conflicted - she'll feel instinctually by your actions that you're withdrawing, but your words will cause her to doubt herself, and she'll go crazy trying to figure out what the hell is going on with you. Saying your not available and acting available will seem like a cheap trick to seem uninterested, but she'll never think you're just playing if you act interested. She doesn't have you pegged as that kind of guy.

If you do this, and she has any interest, she'll start trying to figure you out, which means calling you incessantly, texting you and trying to get you to come back to where you were. You must not drop the act. Stay friendly, tell her to calm down that you're still around and laugh at her, saying it's cute that's she's getting all concerned considering that you haven't even met yet (implying she's desperate for you). Keep up this hard-to-get attitude, and she'll be dying to see you when you get back.
 

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Originally posted by BrotherAP
This girl isn't really acting like her intentions are honest.

I mean, she's doing everything she can to keep you hangin on the end of the line, sitting around trying to figure out what she's up to and what she wants. In reality, she's playing perfectly into your insecurities.

You think it was any accident that she told you about her fvck buddies? No, no way she would have revealed that information unless she knew it would trigger that desperation in you. She was expecting you to react the way you did. Most guys would be pretty put off by that, and leave - and if she was afraid at all of you leaving, she'd have witheld that statement to avoid it.

So what did you do that gave her the impression that you wouldn't stray? You may be asking yourself this same question, and my answer would be that, most likely, you simply failed to see the fishing line and the hook when she threw you a little bit of bait, and took a healthy swallow of her bs and now your hooked. What I mean is that she probably played attention games with you - allowing you to get somewhat close and then pulling some stunt that either required you to chase her or hinted that she'd leave, and you played into it perfectly. For example, maybe she broke down on the phone "I'm just not sure I'm ready for (variation: I deserve) a man who treats me well" and you jumped into the trap telling her "Of course you are! And I am that man!"

That example is just one of many games girls play, but think back if there was ever a time when she seemed unsure about whether or not anything really should happen between you two and you took the role of trying to convince her. For the record, this should never happen.

Especially unnerving to me was her statements saying that she would see if you are worthy of dumping her FBs over. Did you really respond to that? That was a blatant game, the kind that attention wh0res play with guys that they're never going to fvck. I can't tell you how many times I've seen that game result in the guy being reduced to a pile of emotional baggage and the girl telling everybody how he's a desperate loser who she never liked, and nobody knows the difference because they weren't around to see her lead him straight into a brick wall. I can tell you, however, that I have never seen that result in the guy getting the girl. Never.

And now you're trying to salvage this by telling her things like you did above, that you will see how things happen and you have other girls blah blah blah. It's all just talk, and talk is cheap. If you want to convince her of anything you have to do it with your actions. This is hard, especially with her being 3000km away, but the fact of the matter is that saying that you have other girls banging down your door is actually telling her that you don't, because if you did you wouldn't have to say so nor would you be putting up with so much drama from one that isn't even right there to please you.

If you want to see what she's really after here, she has to really believe she's losing you. You have to show her that you're not very interested, and make her feel like she has to convince you that you really want to go out of your way to meet up with her. Right now it's the opposite, and you're doing all the convincing. If she thought she was losing you, she might act different. If there really is any interest there, she'll come after you, and if you play the game right you can flip the script so that she's the one trying to prove herself. The first step towards this is being 100% willing to lose her.

And here's a tip for the future - don't discuss relationships before they have actually become relationships. All of this serious talk about what you might become seriously sucks all of the fun out of it, and really tends to ruin it before it even begins. You should be playful and flirtatious, and try to avoid serious discussions of "what are we" when you really haven't become anything yet.

You want to play her game? Ignore her, but make it seem like you aren't. Send her a friendly text message that you wont be able to call her today, and drop of the face of the Earth until tomorrow. Call her at the busiest place you can possibly manage to put yourself, prefereably with female voices surrounding you even asking you questions (even if this means hanging out with your sisters - let her imagination make it something else) and be really friendly like you really want to talk to her, but just can't.

Actions speak much louder than words, and this being unavailable yet sounding interested at the same time will knock her off balance, as she'll be conflicted - she'll feel instinctually by your actions that you're withdrawing, but your words will cause her to doubt herself, and she'll go crazy trying to figure out what the hell is going on with you. Saying your not available and acting available will seem like a cheap trick to seem uninterested, but she'll never think you're just playing if you act interested. She doesn't have you pegged as that kind of guy.

If you do this, and she has any interest, she'll start trying to figure you out, which means calling you incessantly, texting you and trying to get you to come back to where you were. You must not drop the act. Stay friendly, tell her to calm down that you're still around and laugh at her, saying it's cute that's she's getting all concerned considering that you haven't even met yet (implying she's desperate for you). Keep up this hard-to-get attitude, and she'll be dying to see you when you get back.
I'm doing this already. Let's see how this thing evolves... I'll keep you informed, my friends! ;)
 

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Originally posted by Aerospace
Why should I tell her I want to bang her? It's fvcking obvious, mate.

By the way, yesterday, after ignoring more than 4 calls and her 'cuddle me' last resort, i sent something like this to her:

''You should not take me for granted. I'm sure you'll make a nice friend, but try and understand I like to control my life, and my universe. I'd like to cuddle you and please your senses in a way impossible to do from here, and via sms. It would be ridicolous, and I do not pursue such things. Let time change us and the way we feel. If you have a little patience, and know how to enjoy the chase, we'll get along quite well. Otherwise, you'll obtain not much more than having bothered me. And I've got so many girls around me, it's not really the case, isn't it dear?"

I'm on vacation now, I could see her even if I wanted, being more than 3000 km far from her. I'll be back on January the 8. Her birthday is the 13th. I hope to be able to see her for the first date before I have to share her presence with her friends and companions. I also hope to get in a good shape... to make things clear, now I weigh something along 105 kg (I'm 190 cm tall)... I don't think she like to have sex with warthogs... ^_^ I should hit the gym as soon as possible...

...she did answer with something like:

"Our friendship has just been born. What will happen, we don't know. But I can understand your point of view. And I like you, and thank you for the time you shared with me."

I ignored her all day, today. She sent me 4 sms and a pair of void calls. I called her a while ago just to give a bit of so called 'anticipation' to her (you know, one sted back, two steps ahead and so on) - but kept it short, speaking less than 1000 seconds. I hope being witty and a bit arrogant, confident and showing my talents will work with her. I trust her to not be completely shallow, so I don't give a **** about my looks (curious? check them here: Me)

It's difficult to wait other 10-15 days just to see her for the first time (she sent me plenty of photos by the way), but this is making me stronger, and I'm learning a bunch of useful things. As Nietzsche says: what does not kill us, makes us stronger.
You have two options here my friend. You can either fukk her brains out, and either become a boyfriend, a fukk buddy, or some kind of lover, OR you can be her male girlfriend, who she tells about the guys who are having anal sex with her, and how much she enjoys it, even though it makes her feel so dirty afterwards. Then, you can cuddle her warmly, and tell her that she is not a wh0re, just because she orgasms when she is anally serviced, and she is a wonderful human being.
 

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Ha ha ha, Jack! ^_^

I think I'll choose the first option. Only if I can get to fvck her in the ass too, by the way.

Update: Ignored her all day, she called me four hours ago. I told her I was busy. Casually met her on the Messenger two hours later. She told me she's offended. I told her I don't give a rat's ass. She seems quite down, now. I'd really like to verbally cuddle her a little now, but I feel that is not the right path to pursue. It's so strange, but in a way I feel that acting like a jerk might be the way to get to fvck her soon or later. Talk about psychology.

By the way: I'll send nothing to her now. Let's see when she'll show an apologetic behaviour, or at least when she'll try to get in touch with me again. If she does not call tomorrow, I'll try to contact her in 2 or 3 days, keeping it short and acting happy and confident as usual. And laughing at her face for being such a AFC girl... ^_^

This plan sounds so dumb... don't bash me too hard with your answers, friends.
 

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Update: Ignored her all day, she called me four hours ago. I told her I was busy. Casually met her on the Messenger two hours later. She told me she's offended. I told her I don't give a rat's ass. She seems quite down, now. I'd really like to verbally cuddle her a little now, but I feel that is not the right path to pursue. It's so strange, but in a way I feel that acting like a jerk might be the way to get to fvck her soon or later. Talk about psychology.

Dude you're being wayyy too cruel here. A sudden shift to over-jerkish behavior doesn't get you anywhere. You should be nice, just be busy. If she tells you she's offended, tell her with a smile that she just needs to be patient.

My whole post was lost on you, let me sum it up:

Be friendly when you talk to her, as to sound interested, but remain unavailable and with your actions.

If you're busy, don't answer her phone call - and if you do, don't flatly say "I'm busy..." This is a girl you're trying to fvck, not a telemarketer. Tell her "Oh, hey I'd love to talk to you but I can't right now. I'll try and call you tomorrow!" then hang up. Be like that every time you talk to her, so that she's litterally begging for 10 minutes of your time, and you get to make it as if you are being incredibly generous by allowing her that 10 minutes - this is how you raise your value and turn the tables so that she's chasing you.

Stop it with the as$hole behavior, that's not the way to get in a girl's pants. Even jerks are nice to girls when they're still trying sleep with them for the first time.

You're trying a bit too hard, and honestly your angry moves come off as you sounding insecure that you're losing power and trying to protect yourself by closing up. Just cut it out, you have no reason to be acting like a prick. It's not getting you anywhere.
 

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Originally posted by BrotherAP
Dude you're being wayyy too cruel here. A sudden shift to over-jerkish behavior doesn't get you anywhere. You should be nice, just be busy. If she tells you she's offended, tell her with a smile that she just needs to be patient.

My whole post was lost on you, let me sum it up:

Be friendly when you talk to her, as to sound interested, but remain unavailable and with your actions.

If you're busy, don't answer her phone call - and if you do, don't flatly say "I'm busy..." This is a girl you're trying to fvck, not a telemarketer. Tell her "Oh, hey I'd love to talk to you but I can't right now. I'll try and call you tomorrow!" then hang up. Be like that every time you talk to her, so that she's litterally begging for 10 minutes of your time, and you get to make it as if you are being incredibly generous by allowing her that 10 minutes - this is how you raise your value and turn the tables so that she's chasing you.

Stop it with the as$hole behavior, that's not the way to get in a girl's pants. Even jerks are nice to girls when they're still trying sleep with them for the first time.

You're trying a bit too hard, and honestly your angry moves come off as you sounding insecure that you're losing power and trying to protect yourself by closing up. Just cut it out, you have no reason to be acting like a prick. It's not getting you anywhere.
I disagree. Women love jerks and a$$holes. Just be a funny jerk/a$$hole. Dont take her so seriously. But yes, getting her to chase you is key. Do the "****y/funny" bit, and let her know, in no uncertain terms that if you are going to see her, you want to see her naked. And dont let her be the only one. Seek and find other women, for sex, companionship, ect. The best thing is, if and when she calls you, if you are out with a woman, and answer the phone with a, er, uh, cant talk now, call me later" attitude..... Women seek sought after males.
 
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