She didn't respond, I have no idea why. Any thoughts?

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my confidence has been pretty high these past 2 weeks up until today, i've set myself targets of approaching everyday when i can, trying to make improvements knowing that i wouldn't necessarily get interested girls straight away. i've gotten a few numbers in that time but they've either flaked or didn't reply.

i accepted these as i knew during pick up i didnt' build enough attraction and was stuck too much in friendzone talk and then when they were leaving i got the number but somewhat not smoothly, hence lack of attraction on their apart.

fast forward to last sunday, i was picking up this girl at a Starbucks and we talked for too long, over an hour. in the past i've extracted the number too quickly so found buyers remorse a common reason for them not answering or returning my call.

this was different, this girl seemed to show IOI's, touching her hair, kino'ing me, smiling, laughing at my jokes. admittedly towards the end of the interaction her friend walked on and she began to chat to her, i felt a bit awkward because i was sitting down not sure what to do as i was just there sitting talking to her all this time. finally she introduced me to her friend but refferred to me as 'this is my friend..' and 'i met him here' anyway the friend sat behind us on a different table, i knew it was time to leave and get the number, i did so relatively smoothly but about 20mins later than i should have, i felt in that entire duration i built enough rapport and attraction that there would be no way she'd not reply to me. i made it clear to her that i was hitting on her with the 'so if you go on a date with me u going to dress up? ;)' she laughed and played with her said 'yeah i'll dress normal'. it seemed to go well though i was showing weakness and nerves towards the end. we exchanged numbers and i kissed her goodbye.

i dont know if her friend may have put in a bad word for me after i left. cos my shaking of hands with her and general interaction seemed awkward.

so i didn't feel confident yesterday so i texted her to meet up instead of calling (none of these girls ever pick up their phone, it's frustrating) and i felt cos she was so on me that she wouldn't not reply to my text. it was

'hey, lets get together for that drink sometime in the next few days, im busy tomorrow and saturday but hows sunday or monday at 8pm?'

that text is fine. i sent it 3 days after we met, i just couldn't understand why she wouldn't reply. i didn't demonstrate any afcness up until sending that text. it just didn't make sense why she would suddenly have low IL. tho i did prepare myself for this fact cos in the past its happened so i dont get my hopes up, but it is disappointing..

this is where the AFCness creeped in, today 24 hours after not receiving a reply i decided to call (i should have called yesterday first then 24 hours later texted, not the other way round) it went straight to voicemail, so i tried again later and it rang but she didn't pick up. end of story.

prob is the mobile networks here send text messages to u if you call and it goes straight to voicemail, telling the person you called.

i feel really AFC right now and a little frustrated as to why she flaked, i'll carry on sarging today but im approaching but im not geting into long enough interactions where i get a number and arrange a date.

how do i get over this loss of confidence?
 

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i know its how u make the girl feel so your looks dont matter too much, but it helps if you're her type physically and ethnically.

im not majority of western women's ethnic type despite being very good looking for my race, and it does't help that other AFC's of my race put a negative stereotype for me when i approach women as they assume i'm like that and i have to first dispell that and then game them, so it's doubly hard for me.

realistically, a guy who was her ethnic type but uglier than me with the same game level he'd get her i wouldn't.

its just disheartening really because i approach and approach but unless i have super tight game i keep getting girls who flake or dont reply.

is it really possible for someone like myself to thrive in a western city?

when i went abroad for a long period of time i was getting laid all the time cos i was in a city where my ethnicity was the majority.. it wasn't particularly easier or better but it made a difference seeing as i struggle so much here.
 

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alright dude, you shouldnt have called after you texted. Call or text, whatever, in my opinion doesnt really matter in this day in age if your in your early 20's. But pick one way to contact and just do it. She didnt get back to you for day? chill out, she could be busy. Most people do get there texts and reply if they really want to but there are reasons for why she maybe didnt, phones dead, really busy ect.

should have waited a week on this one to contact her. If you are anxious waiting three days, punch yourself in the balls and wait 5-10, your AFC got the best of you. Forget about that one for a couple weeks and get some more digits pal
 

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Confused said:
so i didn't feel confident yesterday so i texted her to meet up instead of calling (none of these girls ever pick up their phone, it's frustrating) and i felt cos she was so on me that she wouldn't not reply to my text. it was

'hey, lets get together for that drink sometime in the next few days, im busy tomorrow and saturday but hows sunday or monday at 8pm?'

that text is fine. i sent it 3 days after we met, i just couldn't understand why she wouldn't reply. i didn't demonstrate any afcness up until sending that text. it just didn't make sense why she would suddenly have low IL. tho i did prepare myself for this fact cos in the past its happened so i dont get my hopes up, but it is disappointing..
So you decided to text, instead of call, because you were afraid of being flaked on? Because you were afraid of her not picking up the phone? So you replaced that fear... with the thoughts of "Did she get my text" "Will she answer my text"?

this is where the AFCness creeped in, today 24 hours after not receiving a reply i decided to call (i should have called yesterday first then 24 hours later texted, not the other way round) it went straight to voicemail, so i tried again later and it rang but she didn't pick up. end of story.
So you texted her... to avoid calling her... and called her eventually anyway? All you did with the original text was prolong the flakiness. Next time, you talk to her 10 to 15 minutes, get her number, and get out. You lost all of your mystery and intrigue by talking to her for an hour. Leave that for an actual date. You're a man, you're supposed to be too busy to be sitting down and talking to a random stranger for an hour. You probably gave out a "friendly vibe" to her as well, regardless of IOI's... besides, the only true IOI that matters is the IOI of her agreeing to go out with you.

i feel really AFC right now and a little frustrated as to why she flaked, i'll carry on sarging today but im approaching but im not geting into long enough interactions where i get a number and arrange a date.

how do i get over this loss of confidence?
Figure out what you are doing wrong. You constantly message here asking for the same thing, over and over and over. It's something YOU are doing wrong, but you're failing to look at that.
 

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C-fd

You have no inner game.

You are trying to fake your very necessary but nonexistant "inner game" (confidence, center, sense of self) with a cookbook, connect the dots, step by step cookie cutter type "outer game"

It won't work and you will remain flustrated and dateless

This isn't a video game where you can get the cheat codes and skip levels to the top

This is real life ....your real life

You need to REALLY work on yourself for awhile

You will know when you have done enough work when answers to questions like the one you posted seam to you to be simple, obvious, and natural

Look at it from a flakey girls point of view ---would you want to date / sleep with someone like you as you are now ?????

Over and Out.
 
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boomerick said:
You have no inner game.

You are trying to fake your very necessary but nonexistant "inner game" (confidence, center, sense of self) with a cookbook, connect the dots, step by step cookie cutter type "outer game"

It won't work and you will remain flustrated and dateless

This isn't a video game where you can get the cheat codes and skip levels to the top

This is real life ....your real life

You need to REALLY work on yourself for awhile

You will know when you have done enough work when answers to questions like the one you posted seam to you to be simple, obvious, and natural

Look at it from a flakey girls point of view ---would you want to date / sleep with someone like you as you are now ?????

Over and Out.

He's exactly right.

And to the original poster I know how it can feel I use to be in this position MANY times. But you need to ignore the results right now and really spend some time focusing on improving your own inner game.
 

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Kailex said:
So you decided to text, instead of call, because you were afraid of being flaked on? Because you were afraid of her not picking up the phone? So you replaced that fear... with the thoughts of "Did she get my text" "Will she answer my text"?



So you texted her... to avoid calling her... and called her eventually anyway? All you did with the original text was prolong the flakiness. Next time, you talk to her 10 to 15 minutes, get her number, and get out. You lost all of your mystery and intrigue by talking to her for an hour. Leave that for an actual date. You're a man, you're supposed to be too busy to be sitting down and talking to a random stranger for an hour. You probably gave out a "friendly vibe" to her as well, regardless of IOI's... besides, the only true IOI that matters is the IOI of her agreeing to go out with you.



Figure out what you are doing wrong. You constantly message here asking for the same thing, over and over and over. It's something YOU are doing wrong, but you're failing to look at that.
no no, i didn't call because i wasn't feeling confident yesterday cos i wasnt feeling well from a health prob the day before and i know its never good to make a phone call if you know its going to go badly so i felt texting i could at least slow the flow.

i understand i shouldn't have called today 24 hours later, but i know the text delivered, all i know is that realistically she should be replying to me within 24 hours, it's just rude if she doesn't tho i know people can take a few days but if she had the interest i thought she did then i dont see why she wouldn't have texted within 24 hours! like i said i cant understand why because she had what seemed to be high interest! why is the question she didnt reply?

it's just baffling, the other girls i could understand it was a poor pick up but with her i did really really well. IOI's were there. it just doesn't make sense.

This is the problem!! you say i need to figure out what im doing wrong and i dont know! especialy when it seems to go as well as this, others yes i can figure it out but when it goes supposedly well like this 1 i just cant get my head around why.

the reason i talked so long was cos i was hoping to stay and get another girls number later but this i carried on and on talking to cos i got buyers remorse in the past. but granted 15-20mins is about right, i'll probably leave regardless of wanting to game another girl, this was the only starbucks open late in the vicinity thats why i wanted to stay.

what do you think im doing wrong? im asking the same quetions again and again but i cant figure out what im doing actually wrong in the interaction on the times i actually 'feel' its going well. this is baffling..
 

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Ummmm....yep.....you just proved my point........with every sentence........

Re-read my above response then follow the NEWB in my signature line

Over and Out.
 

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Talk to alot more new girls. Get numbers...Call text whatever it is people do these days and you won't care or care as much if she does reply. You'll be too busy with talking to so many other girls you won't remember who the hell is who. They'll get jealous but will be more attracted to you rather than you following them like a lost puppy.
 

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Confused said:
no no, i didn't call because i wasn't feeling confident yesterday cos i wasnt feeling well from a health prob the day before
Awwwwwww, was poor little Tommy's tummy aching?
Come ON. You have to do better than "I wasn't feeling well from a health prob".

and i know its never good to make a phone call if you know its going to go badly so i felt texting i could at least slow the flow.
Translation: I'm a big wuss who will hide behind a texting pad.
You ended up calling ANYWAY.
Because you were desperate... if you didn't care about this girl at all, you wouldn't be asking. Just because she spoke to you for an hour, doesn't mean that she's totally into you. Here you are, like a dog at the dinner table begging for scraps, making excuses for why you couldn't man up and call her, when you ended up doing it... anyway.

i understand i shouldn't have called today 24 hours later, but i know the text delivered, all i know is that realistically she should be replying to me within 24 hours, it's just rude if she doesn't tho i know people can take a few days but if she had the interest i thought she did then i dont see why she wouldn't have texted within 24 hours! like i said i cant understand why because she had what seemed to be high interest! why is the question she didnt reply?
You answered your OWN question. If she had interest, she would have replied. Did she reply? NO. So what does that mean...

NO INTEREST.

Does it really take a rocket scientist to put this scenario together. You THOUGHT she had interest... she obviously... DOESN'T.
Do you read what you write WHILE you type it??

it's just baffling, the other girls i could understand it was a poor pick up but with her i did really really well. IOI's were there. it just doesn't make sense.
Some women are like that.
And it doesn't matter what IOI's you think you are picking up on. She could just be a flirt. In your mind, you could be seeing IOI's, but they might not really be there.

This is the problem!! you say i need to figure out what im doing wrong and i dont know! especialy when it seems to go as well as this, others yes i can figure it out but when it goes supposedly well like this 1 i just cant get my head around why.
Go through your posting history and read it as if you were reading someone else's post and you tell me. At least you stopped using Facebook.

the reason i talked so long was cos i was hoping to stay and get another girls number later but this i carried on and on talking to cos i got buyers remorse in the past. but granted 15-20mins is about right, i'll probably leave regardless of wanting to game another girl, this was the only starbucks open late in the vicinity thats why i wanted to stay.
You are a never-ending pit of excuses.

what do you think im doing wrong? im asking the same quetions again and again but i cant figure out what im doing actually wrong in the interaction on the times i actually 'feel' its going well. this is baffling..
Start reading source material on the DJ Bible, you obviously have missed the point of EVERYTHING in there. It seems your entire approach is wrong. Yeah, they'll talk to you then, but does it matter much? You HAVE to be doing SOMETHING wrong there that isn't creating enough attraction. Comfort, maybe, but not attraction.

She introduced you to her friend as "A friend I met here".
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Confused said:
This is the problem!! you say i need to figure out what im doing wrong and i dont know! especialy when it seems to go as well as this, others yes i can figure it out but when it goes supposedly well like this 1 i just cant get my head around why.
Well the good news is this....

I can 100% GUARANTEE you that it's not YOU yourself that's the problem,and like others have said,it's simply something you're doing.



That's good news because if it were you,then you'd be screwed because you're ALWAYS going to be you,and that will never change.



If it's simply some behavior,then that can be changed,but first your MIND needs to be changed.



Your thinking is off somewhere. There's something that YOU THINK is a good idea to do,something that YOU BELIEVE will help you out in your interactions with women,but it's WRONG.



SOMEWHERE in your mind,you believe a LIE.


Confused said:
what do you think im doing wrong? im asking the same quetions again and again but i cant figure out what im doing actually wrong in the interaction
We may be able help you out,but more info is needed first.



Try to answer these questions DIRECTLY....ACCURATELY.



When you approach a girl,WHAT DO YOU SAY? What EXACTLY?

When do you start to notice problems? Is it during the approach,after the approach but before the first date,or after a date has already taken place?



How do YOU FEEL during the approach?

Women are emotional,so how YOU FEEL (if you express it strongly enough) will effect them too.



If you're cool and relaxed,she'll be relaxed,but if you're nervous,scared,and uncomfortable,then you'll make her feel uncomfortable.



Your words won't matter. She'll be too busy feeling the emotions and vibes you give off to listen to anything you say.



Please....PLEASE try to answer ALL these questions DIRECTLY.


The content of your conversations with girls should reveal where you're going wrong at. That,plus how YOU FEEL during the conversations.
 

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Whether you call her, text her, email her, send her a telegram or a carrier pigeon doesn't really matter. If the girl is interested in you, she will respond regardless of the medium. Imagine that a girl you were interested in sent YOU a text message asking you out. Would you "flake" and fail to get back to her because you would have rather received a phone call? Of course not. And neither would a woman...IF she was interested in you.

If this girl hasn't responded, it means only one thing: she's not interested in you. Next.
 

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boomerick said:
C-fd

You have no inner game.

You are trying to fake your very necessary but nonexistant "inner game" (confidence, center, sense of self) with a cookbook, connect the dots, step by step cookie cutter type "outer game"

It won't work and you will remain flustrated and dateless

This isn't a video game where you can get the cheat codes and skip levels to the top

This is real life ....your real life

You need to REALLY work on yourself for awhile
This shyt is so on point its not even funny. I'm goodlooking and have my own car but thats about it atm. Its very similiar to my situation and I can kinda tell my inner game is messing my shyt up right now, but do u or anyone else have tips to still game while working out these issues? i mean i need to get laid still, even tho my life is kinda ****ed up right now lol.

O and kailex i just wrote a long ass post i hope you check out. ur other advice has been pretty damn good.
thnx, sry to hijack but i think this thread has made clear what u need to do man.
 

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Looks like Confused it getting a good beating here but it's all very positive.

Everyone is right on target, and the sooner you learn to get control of yourself here, you are going to be pulling tons of dates in no time.

You have already illustrated that you have enough game to do cold approaches and that's A LOT MORE than most guys can do (p*ssys).

So congrats on that. The next step and the one that will take you to the next level of your game is to really start getting in control of your thoughts. This DOES NOT have to be a long process (and I recently changed my views on this after studying NLP).

I think that you're on a path to really getting some solid game and more importantly the freedom of dating who you want. But don't let yourself go astray by ignoring your inner game and making excuses for yourself.
 

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boomerick said:
C-fd

You have no inner game.

You are trying to fake your very necessary but nonexistant "inner game" (confidence, center, sense of self) with a cookbook, connect the dots, step by step cookie cutter type "outer game"

It won't work and you will remain flustrated and dateless

This isn't a video game where you can get the cheat codes and skip levels to the top

This is real life ....your real life

You need to REALLY work on yourself for awhile

You will know when you have done enough work when answers to questions like the one you posted seam to you to be simple, obvious, and natural

Look at it from a flakey girls point of view ---would you want to date / sleep with someone like you as you are now ?????

Over and Out.
This is bad advice. This isnt even advice.

Saying 'you have no inner game, you need to work on yourself' isnt helping someone.

The only way to build inner game is to experience, succeed and fail. Improve your skills, pick up tricks, learn and understand.

This type of 'you cant get good with women with X and Y, you need to work on yourself first and be good like me' advice is too often seen on this forum. That isnt really advice, thats being elitist and egoist. You might not realize, but thats what it is.

When it comes to confidence, fake it till you make it. You will learn and experience untill you are wise and old and have seen anything and everything girls will throw at you. Untill someone comes up with a better method to improvement, dont talk bs.

Theres nothing really to be said about this situation, yes you should have bolted out of there faster. You should have kept it fun and playful and probably have been more flirty. But you dont really need any specific advice from anyone here.

The only thing there is to be said is that you were a complete idiot for phoning her, but you already knew that. If she doesnt reply then you know its a fail and theres nothing you can do. In the odd chance her phone is broke, text again in a week if you like, but leave it at that.
 

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Ease said:
This is bad advice. This isnt even advice.

Saying 'you have no inner game, you need to work on yourself' isnt helping someone.

The only way to build inner game is to experience, succeed and fail. Improve your skills, pick up tricks, learn and understand.

This type of 'you cant get good with women with X and Y, you need to work on yourself first and be good like me' advice is too often seen on this forum. That isnt really advice, thats being elitist and egoist. You might not realize, but thats what it is.

When it comes to confidence, fake it till you make it. You will learn and experience untill you are wise and old and have seen anything and everything girls will throw at you. Untill someone comes up with a better method to improvement, dont talk bs.

Theres nothing really to be said about this situation, yes you should have bolted out of there faster. You should have kept it fun and playful and probably have been more flirty. But you dont really need any specific advice from anyone here.

The only thing there is to be said is that you were a complete idiot for phoning her, but you already knew that. If she doesnt reply then you know its a fail and theres nothing you can do. In the odd chance her phone is broke, text again in a week if you like, but leave it at that.

I tend to agree with this. Most of us will go our entire lives with some sort of confidence issues, fear, anxiety, the need for improvement, etc..

There is no magic level of "inner game" (whatever that means) that will
get you countless girls.

If you talk to a girl and you're nervous, who cares? People that end up
getting married probably got together in a nervous awkward manner.
So yeah, just fake it till you make it.
 

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Igetit! said:
Well the good news is this....

I can 100% GUARANTEE you that it's not YOU yourself that's the problem,and like others have said,it's simply something you're doing.



That's good news because if it were you,then you'd be screwed because you're ALWAYS going to be you,and that will never change.



If it's simply some behavior,then that can be changed,but first your MIND needs to be changed.



Your thinking is off somewhere. There's something that YOU THINK is a good idea to do,something that YOU BELIEVE will help you out in your interactions with women,but it's WRONG.



SOMEWHERE in your mind,you believe a LIE.




We may be able help you out,but more info is needed first.



Try to answer these questions DIRECTLY....ACCURATELY.



When you approach a girl,WHAT DO YOU SAY? What EXACTLY?

When do you start to notice problems? Is it during the approach,after the approach but before the first date,or after a date has already taken place?



How do YOU FEEL during the approach?

Women are emotional,so how YOU FEEL (if you express it strongly enough) will effect them too.



If you're cool and relaxed,she'll be relaxed,but if you're nervous,scared,and uncomfortable,then you'll make her feel uncomfortable.



Your words won't matter. She'll be too busy feeling the emotions and vibes you give off to listen to anything you say.



Please....PLEASE try to answer ALL these questions DIRECTLY.


The content of your conversations with girls should reveal where you're going wrong at. That,plus how YOU FEEL during the conversations.
Hi, I have taken some time away trying to reflect on what i've done wrong and it's time I answer your questions below as precisely as I can.

When you approach a girl,WHAT DO YOU SAY? What EXACTLY?


Usually for instance if I'm in say a coffee place like a Starbucks I'll use an indirect conversation opener just to start a conversation such as 'how does the wifi work?' or 'is that any good?' (referring to something they're eating) usually after their answer i'll follow up with what they're doing i.e. if they are reading a book or writing an essay i'll ask them about that.

Following on i'll ask them where they are from if they speak with an accent, I try to throw in a neg here or there to test the water or make a joke. I'll attempt light kino if say they're tanned. Admittedly if the convo goes on too long I notice I start to get nervous and I start talking more about friend-zone stuff.

Usually if I want her to know I'm picking her up i'll compliment her in some way about her outfit or something cos otherwise she might think I'm just looking to be a friend.

This one in particular I think the problem was not the approach or what I said but was the longer it went on I got more nervous and she felt that, I left no mystery. I should have left after 10mins rather than 1 hour. So I learned my lesson.

Really what I need help on is on first dates.

When do you start to notice problems? Is it during the approach,after the approach but before the first date,or after a date has already taken place?

TBH I notice problems all over shop. I am in a bad situation where I'm a recovering AFC, and I have had rejection in some form with every girl I have ever been with where it's her not being into me anymore rather than other way round.

The constant rejection over the years has really damaged my fragile ego where I assume she'll flake to try and soften the blow which can be counterproductive if she doesn't. I have a very negative view to protect my ego when they do flake, I get very upset because it happens again and again, that when one doesn't flake I start to get oneitis and feel under extreme pressure to deliver on dates because I know I may not get another chance with another girl for a while.

So there's 3 pronged problem, where I'm struggling to get lots of non flaking numbers, so it puts me into a nervous worried state of mind before a date if say 1 out of the 10 doesnt flake. It's hard staying positive when you've had all rejection all your life.

the approach is ok, i feel the most anxiety before a date, during a date and after a date.

Because of this built up anxiety of her being my only opportunity for say the next month despite my efforts of picking up it's kind of hard not to have this added pressure on me to dispel.

On dates I will try to be C+F as much as I can at the beginning, almost as a defence mechanism cos im afraid of being friend zoned, it usually always starts really well with them laughing hilariously or kino'ing me.. It's as the date wears on and there is silent moments I end up getting nervous and keep talking filling in the space as I fear the sh1t test questions I don't know how to answer. Like 'what do you do?' and then i get 50 follow on questions about it when I tell them to 'guess' and say 'i dont talk about what i do' they just dont stop pressing.

Later it reaches this plateau where I run out of things to say and I feel nervous and start to panic (this might be what you're saying about them 'feeling' my emotions rather than what im saying)

Then I'll be in a state where I over kino, where i keep touching or prodding them in some way, which I've learned to stop now cos it creeps them out.

I'll attempt a kiss close at some point but sometimes I hesitate beforehand which shows lack of confidence I guess.

Can you suggest any improvements about what I am suppose to talk about when there is silence?

I keep talking to avoid the stupid questions they ask to figure me out, I dont pass these well.

I used to have a standard follow through plan to a kiss close which hasn't been as effect lately. I'd compliment them a bit, touch their face and move their hair out of the way, if they let me do this i'd smell their neck and then go for a kiss close.

but prior to this when we're talking, I'll ask her lots of questions about her passions and interests, and explain mine. Then at some point she'll ask me the same question and i'll be thinking like 'huh? i just been telling u all this earlier, why are u asking me again?' and the problem is i answer the question again in a less confident way.

Basically I lack confidence on a date because I Care so much about the outcome and they must be picking up on this desperation to get laid. I just dont enjoy myself anymore on dates so I've changed to cheap/action dates because I feel like sh1t afterwards if i spend more than $10 on a girl who isn't intereted.

After getting failed date after failed date, and the ill feeling after, bear in mind after a date if its not gone that well i feel awful because I have no other plates on hand (through no fault of my own due to lack of options when i am out picking up, its not my fault if i sit in a starbucks all day and not 1 single HB shows up on her own) so i start to either get oneitis and i feel devastated when she doesn't want to meet for a 2nd date.

And then the cycle begins all over again where i need to rebuild my confidence to pick up and approach, i am at a point where it requires so much effort and time and heartache to approach women i cant be bothered because it just ends up one way with me feeling awful and needing to lick my wounds.

i'm definitely psychologically damaged by all this rejection over the years. there's only so much someone can take.

How do YOU FEEL during the approach?

Usually I'm confident, but I am a bit cowardly if I;m going for the indirect approach, I try to be C+F from the start.

It's frustrating because everyday I try to find situations where I can approach, but Im not confident enough yet to approach a girl on the street and neither have a decent opener so I'm restricted to coffee places during the day (which do not always have HBs so I could go a week without seeing anything worth picking up)
 

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I'd just like to take this moment to point out that Igetit is a god among insects. Great post again man. You should go get a psych phd and get paid for this or something.
 

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Heres a quick tip that reduces nonresponse. when you get her cell# call her to make sure its the right number, then send her a quick text right and there that says "hey do u speak txt?" when she responds just reply with "i met this adorable girl at xx place" (xx place being the place where you are at the moment)
It works because it playful and sets a familiarity of texting each other so that the first text isnt too akward.
Another thing, you waited too long to text, its better to text the next day while you're still fresh on her mind.
Lastly, the first text you sent her should not have been to ask for a date. Remind her why she wants to hang out with you by being fun and playful on your texts and THEN ask.
 

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Igetit! said:
Well the good news is this....

I can 100% GUARANTEE you that it's not YOU yourself that's the problem,and like others have said,it's simply something you're doing.



That's good news because if it were you,then you'd be screwed because you're ALWAYS going to be you,and that will never change.



If it's simply some behavior,then that can be changed,but first your MIND needs to be changed.



Your thinking is off somewhere. There's something that YOU THINK is a good idea to do,something that YOU BELIEVE will help you out in your interactions with women,but it's WRONG.



SOMEWHERE in your mind,you believe a LIE.




We may be able help you out,but more info is needed first.



Try to answer these questions DIRECTLY....ACCURATELY.



When you approach a girl,WHAT DO YOU SAY? What EXACTLY?

When do you start to notice problems? Is it during the approach,after the approach but before the first date,or after a date has already taken place?



How do YOU FEEL during the approach?

Women are emotional,so how YOU FEEL (if you express it strongly enough) will effect them too.



If you're cool and relaxed,she'll be relaxed,but if you're nervous,scared,and uncomfortable,then you'll make her feel uncomfortable.



Your words won't matter. She'll be too busy feeling the emotions and vibes you give off to listen to anything you say.



Please....PLEASE try to answer ALL these questions DIRECTLY.


The content of your conversations with girls should reveal where you're going wrong at. That,plus how YOU FEEL during the conversations.
I replied in detail to your questions, I'd appreciate your feedback and advice on what to change, thanks.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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