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Tweek_1984 said:
I agree and I'm taking both into consideration. If she hadn't of said anything I wouldn't have even known about her actions.

She kissed another dude. Ok, I know its super bad, hence my hunt for brute advice, but... like I've said, I think I can move on from this. If she'd had full blown sex, then I'd have walked. I take this as a warning and again, as I have said, I shall tread carefully.
You will never know unless she gets pregnant -- but kissing usually leads to bigger things, if you know what I mean!:rolleyes:

What you have to look at is actions, as Wayword said, but before their is action there is thought - so you MUST look at her mindset - how she thinks!

Partying alot, getting drunk, living with a guy and "hanging" out with single people and strange men, hmmmmmm, I'm surprised she kissed
another dude! :rolleyes:
 

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Last Man Standing said:
You will never know unless she gets pregnant -- but kissing usually leads to bigger things, if you know what I mean!:rolleyes:

What you have to look at is actions, as Wayword said, but before their is action there is thought - so you MUST look at her mindset - how she thinks!

Partying alot, getting drunk, living with a guy and "hanging" out with single people and strange men, hmmmmmm, I'm surprised she kissed
another dude! :rolleyes:
What college girls don't get drunk and don't hang out with guys?

Come on man, get real.

And yes, I'm not suprised about it either, but she definately wouldn't have done it if I was there. Apart from going over there or saying goodbye forever, I was looking for advice about where to go from here.
 
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Tweek_1984 said:
What college girls don't get drunk and don't hang out with guys?

Come on man, get real.

And yes, I'm not suprised about it either, but she definately wouldn't have done it if I was there. Apart from going over there or saying goodbye forever, I was looking for advice about where to go from here.
You cannot form a bonding relatioinship when you are thousands of miles away from each other so there is little hope if the distance remains!

Now that some trust has been taken away - it is lees of a chance that things will "work out"! If there is anything you need in a long distance relationship it is surely TRUST and LOYALTY to one another!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Last Man Standing said:
Now that some trust has been taken away - it is lees of a chance that things will "work out"! If there is anything you need in a long distance relationship it is surely TRUST and LOYALTY to one another!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I completely agree. We've agreed to try and work things out, but maybe I should be taking a much more casual view of the relationship.
 
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Tweek_1984 said:
I completely agree. We've agreed to try and work things out, but maybe I should be taking a much more casual view of the relationship.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So that you are not emotionally devestated when, errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, if things don't work out!!

This was a warning shot across the bow!!
 

At this point you probably have a woman (or multiple women) chasing you around, calling you all the time, wanting to be with you. So let's talk about how to KEEP a woman interested in you once you have her. This is BIG! There is nothing worse than getting dumped by a woman that you really, really like.

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Tweek - I've read every reply in this thread. Actually, it was quite entertaining and made me laugh since I'm currently sick with the flu.

I wanted to point out a few things.

1. You came to this forum for advice. This would seem to imply that you respect the majority of the members here otherwise, you would have gone elsewhere.
2. This thread is now 6 pages long. You had enough replies about 4 pages ago to make an informed decision.
3. The MAJORITY of the people here are telling you one thing - MOVE ON. There are a few (I can only remember Wyldfire, but there may be others) that told you to work it out.
4. You and your "g/f" clearly do not match up on what you consider appropriate behavior in a (LD)R. You have repeatedly said that you were faithful, why couldn't she be? She couldn't because she doesn't want to be.

When you have a mismatch such as this, you cannot have a healthy relationship. Sure, you two can agree to "work things out" although I don't see this as something YOU have to work on as much as something SHE needs to work on. She needs to take care of her emotional baggage. She doesn't want to be in a LTR/LDR but isn't quite ready to dump you yet. She hasn't gotten ahold of that next branch yet, but it's only a matter of time.

At this point, as several have stated, you aren't reading our advice looking for honest opinions, it's just a way to prolong the inevitable - MAKING A DECISION.

From your replies, it's clear you want to salvage the relationship. (read: you don't feel you can get any better than this hor). You knew what you wanted to hear coming in here and were hoping that more than 1 person would back you up. You also (subconsciously) already knew the best advice, because you stated yourself that EVERYONE on here would tell you to dump the b1tch.

Why are you going against your nature as a man and trying to make this work? Your body is telling you to leave. We're telling you to leave. And after you go out and meet 20 other women, you're going to realize that this b1tch wasn't worth the days of your time spent contemplating this issue.

Let it go man. We've all been in this situation. It breaks your heart to end things with someone you care about. It is OK to be depressed about this temporarily. This is the normal healing process, but you WILL GET OVER HER. It's inevitable. Cut this girl out of your life, go through the remorse process, and move on.

MBS.
 

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Mind_Body_Soul said:
Tweek - I've read every reply in this thread...
Thanks for the input.

I came into this forum to get some sort of balance to the advice I've been recieving from family and friends, who all think I should stay with her. I feel completely betrayed and have been trying to rationalise her behaviour. That's why I came on here, because I wanted that brutal perspective.

What I never kept in mind was that I've been talking to a bunch of unknowns on an internet forum for guys trying to get into girls knickers. Some of the advice has been down-to-the-earth-truth but alot of it I have taken with a pinch of salt.

That being said, I do agree with you to an extent. Everybody is telling me to move on, but I'm not. I've just wanted people to tell me good news and it hasnt come, suprise suprise.

The truth is, I do love her and I'm not prepared to cut all ties with her over this. Maybe this is down to spinelessness, being afraid of the unkown and all the other AFC stuff. I really didn't want to say this for fear of being ridiculed as a complete chump and I know how cliche this sounds, but I really do like her. She's a good friend, not just a girlfriend.

What people have to understand here is, that I'm not doing this with my eyes closed like some sort of robot. I understand the risks involved and am prepared to face the possible consequences in the future.

People are calling a break-up inevitable and I suppose that's where I just plain disagree. Staying with her maybe a gamble, but nothing's certain.

I think what I need to do now is completely tone down my emotional involvment and expectations of the relationship and go from there.
 

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Listen

This is quite a painful issue to deal with

If you can, leave her !!!
You will never forget that betrayal

I was not too strong 10 years ago to leave my wife
But I was not sure as you are that she had cheated on me

Almost 9 years past, I cheated her on revenge, as no one has
cheated on before

But it continues to be painful
That's my little story

Mustache
 

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Tweek_1984 said:
I understand the risks involved and am prepared to face the possible consequences in the future.
As long as you can accept the heart break, betrayal, anger, etc. that may or MAY NOT occur. Go for it bro.
 

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Trolls chiming in? Haha for the first time I have to say the information in this thread is true buddy. You should be kissing everyones' feet here because they're giving you pure unbiased advice. Tweek, I hate to say this but you're absolutely clueless about women. The information given to you isn't coming from misogyny or pessimism it's coming from REALITY. Let this whor umm gf back into your life so she can fyck more guys behind your back. Her crying is an act, she doesn't give a shyt! best of luck to you, maybe when your 30 this will all click and you'll snap out of it.

Hello tweek. Read very carefully what this man has written down for you. I have 6 sisters and a very emotional, smart and savvy GF right now. Let me tell you this, the water works ( tears ) are just a manipulation tool. My gf tells me this is what girls do ALL the time to their bfs and the funny thing is that most bf's fall for it. My sisters do it ALL THE TIME to get what they want .Its the way it is my friend. As soon as we see our women blub we automatically are like "awwww come here". This is a great thing because every man should be there to heal his gf and to help her, that is of course if she is in some pain or something.

Your situation is different however, there is a cause for the tears. What will her tears achieve? its already working on you. Making u feel like "oh forgive her, it aint that bad. Oh poor girl is really really sorry".Dont fall for it my bro.

Detatch any emotion you are feeling and think logically back to a time u were kissing some random girl in a club. Did u just make out? or did u make her put her hand on your hard dyck, touch her all over, get her hot and horny on u. Or did u, as ur gf puts it "just made out" and he started it and then we stopped?

If u think even deeper to the cause, she is crying like u said. Why? If she "just made out" like she said it and is downplaying everything like it was a small lapse in concentration, why on earth has she foned u 5 times and left u all those messages and stuff? Think my man, THINK!

Forget what people say about LDRs not working and stuff. They can work - if you have trust and respect and love for one another. You say you have kept your end of the bargain but you know she has NOT.

You really do know what you are supposed to do. She violated your bond. Imagine if u married her in the future and set up home with her. Imagine u had children with her and that u went away for a week to work somewhere. What if when you are away she has another man over in your house, around your small children and shyt. Think bro think.


You really do know what you have to do. You have to call her and tell her that your relationship is no more. Leave it with her. Believe me when i say this there is alot of uncovered stuff u dont know about in this situation.

peace out
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Guys underestimate how many opportunities females get from opposite sex especially in college!

Unless you're God's gift to women, you can't even match 1/10th way to the same level of opportunity women get.

Speaking of economy, women are never off the market, because they take a passive role in pursuit.
Whereas guys have to take an active role to match the same level of opportunity.

Thus, it's ESPECIALLY risky for a high-value guy to get involved in an LTR, especially LDR unless the girl matches all of your criteria!

Keeping that in mind and in context, the idea of LDRs is quite absurd and naive!

In your case, you shouldn't have agreed to become exclusive beginning LDR in the first place!

ask me how i know, ha!


Remember, theres no R in LDR!
 

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I won't troll you...

I'm new to this site. I'm younger than you man, I fear I am a little more experinced than you it seems. Sometime you gotta be a sucker for love, but I won't...no one will make me a door mat! How can a girl ever respect something/one that lets her walk all over them.

I wouldn't leave her nor would stay, I would let the chips fall where they may. kinda rhymes huh....damn i'm poetic!

If you haven't responded to her my friend then the ball is in your court. You are in control, I wouldn't try and play her like some are saying, remember lies only lead to mo lies and tangle webs...keep things simple and keep things Funky. Tell her your not sure yet, you love her but you wanna make sure...blah blah, now I'm not telling you to manipulate her, I'm sayin to protect yourself!

Don't do anything out of revenge or malice. For this is condemning yourself, if your so hurt that you need to hurt her to forgive her, then that means you need to move on, for you could never possible forgive her completely!

Don't make any moves or let her know whats goin on. Call her back and talk, but not about what happened. Keep it up in the air, because if it comes down then you have to deal with it! If you don't ask the question, then she can't answer it and vice verse!

Enjoy it! Man you can have her and you can have other girls and you can tell her because technically your not with her(you guys broke up when she tongue kissed that other dudes ****, oh yeah she did, weahter you guys said it or not) Think of it as that grey area when you first start dating where there really are no "Active " rules just a few unspoken ones.

And my friend you should definatly be keeping your eyes open for the possible option of miss. Right(someone else)
 

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muttley said:
Hello tweek. Read very carefully what this man has written down for you. I have 6 sisters and a very emotional, smart and savvy GF right now. Let me tell you this, the water works ( tears ) are just a manipulation tool. My gf tells me this is what girls do ALL the time to their bfs and the funny thing is that most bf's fall for it. My sisters do it ALL THE TIME to get what they want .Its the way it is my friend. As soon as we see our women blub we automatically are like "awwww come here". This is a great thing because every man should be there to heal his gf and to help her, that is of course if she is in some pain or something.

Your situation is different however, there is a cause for the tears. What will her tears achieve? its already working on you. Making u feel like "oh forgive her, it aint that bad. Oh poor girl is really really sorry".Dont fall for it my bro.

If u think even deeper to the cause, she is crying like u said. Why? If she "just made out" like she said it and is downplaying everything like it was a small lapse in concentration, why on earth has she foned u 5 times and left u all those messages and stuff? Think my man, THINK!
A few jewels of wisdom:

"The women has little feelings*. This can be clearly seen in the fact that the woman represses the emotions of the man whenever she is able to, plus she has the fame of being the most sensible and full of feelings."
(I won't explain the reason why she has little feelings and isnt allowed to have more cause it's a long one.)

"The lacrimal glands are little recipients that, just like the urinary bladder can be educated in such way that it obeys at will. An adult is capable of not urinate in bed and not to cry. This training in the case of the boys is done via autohumillation (The boys don't cry! You are not a girl!) This taming is not applied to girls who soon learn to take advantage of this circunstance."

"When a man observes a woman cries it doesn't occurs to him that she momentarily loss control over her lacrimal glands: he will think that she is dominated by an intense feeling, intensity which he will even measure by the ammount of liquid that is segregated."

"It would be very useful for men to know that women can have cold and clear thoughts while her eyes are being covered with tears"

Esther Vilar's Book "The Tamed Men" (Manipulated Men)
 
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tweek - consider this thread locked!

mind body and soul has given u the absolute best advice u can get, here let me post it for u again:

I wanted to point out a few things.

1. You came to this forum for advice. This would seem to imply that you respect the majority of the members here otherwise, you would have gone elsewhere.
2. This thread is now 6 pages long. You had enough replies about 4 pages ago to make an informed decision.
3. The MAJORITY of the people here are telling you one thing - MOVE ON. There are a few (I can only remember Wyldfire, but there may be others) that told you to work it out.
4. You and your "g/f" clearly do not match up on what you consider appropriate behavior in a (LD)R. You have repeatedly said that you were faithful, why couldn't she be? She couldn't because she doesn't want to be.

When you have a mismatch such as this, you cannot have a healthy relationship. Sure, you two can agree to "work things out" although I don't see this as something YOU have to work on as much as something SHE needs to work on. She needs to take care of her emotional baggage. She doesn't want to be in a LTR/LDR but isn't quite ready to dump you yet. She hasn't gotten ahold of that next branch yet, but it's only a matter of time.

At this point, as several have stated, you aren't reading our advice looking for honest opinions, it's just a way to prolong the inevitable - MAKING A DECISION.

From your replies, it's clear you want to salvage the relationship. (read: you don't feel you can get any better than this hor). You knew what you wanted to hear coming in here and were hoping that more than 1 person would back you up. You also (subconsciously) already knew the best advice, because you stated yourself that EVERYONE on here would tell you to dump the b1tch.

Why are you going against your nature as a man and trying to make this work? Your body is telling you to leave. We're telling you to leave. And after you go out and meet 20 other women, you're going to realize that this b1tch wasn't worth the days of your time spent contemplating this issue.

Let it go man. We've all been in this situation. It breaks your heart to end things with someone you care about. It is OK to be depressed about this temporarily. This is the normal healing process, but you WILL GET OVER HER. It's inevitable. Cut this girl out of your life, go through the remorse process, and move on.






no more replies from u, YOU tell US what is up with u and ur pimpin life in a few days, i wanan see some field reports
 

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Someone Much cooler said:
Don't do anything out of revenge or malice. For this is condemning yourself, if your so hurt that you need to hurt her to forgive her, then that means you need to move on, for you could never possible forgive her completely!
Nice advice, man

I've gone in revenge and my harvest was only more grief
Take the chance

If you become too hooked on her, and she cheats on you again
things will get worst


Mustache
 

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Tweek_1984 said:
Last Man Standing - The dude she lives with is gay.
Tweek_1984 said:
Fair enough. Do you have any suggestions?
Last Man Standing said:
Men are the loyal ones today and the women are partying, getting drunk, and doing as they wish with other dudes! The Matrix is real!
Last Man Standing said:
So she lives with a Homo - holy crap - this is worse - homos are part of the sexual corruption and only is a bad influence on her because they encourage loose sexual mores - anything goes baby!
Last Man Standing said:
You will never know unless she gets pregnant -- but kissing usually leads to bigger things, if you know what I mean!
Last Man Standing said:
Partying alot, getting drunk, living with a guy and "hanging" out with single people and strange men, hmmmmmm, I'm surprised she kissed another dude!
Wow, I can agree 100% with LMS.

To the OP: you have everything you need to do an informed decision, but that is something only you can do. No one with a minimum of sense will say to you that you ought to keep her. But if that's what you want...
 

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She cheated? Call it a quit. But there's something to be aware of; if she cheated, that's means that you lack something that she found somewhere else...

My oneitis case that brought me into the DJ world also cheated, because I wasn't the badboy she thought I was...
 

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It's time to let go of your invisible friend

There is no such thing as an LDR, because you have no relationship. An LDR simply does not meet the criteria necessary for it to be considered a relationship. There is no reciprocity of anything more than words passing over a phone line or an IM text. Understand me here – you have no relationship. You have self-assumed accountability, self-assumed liability and internalized responsibilities to be loyal to this person, to fidelity to this idealization, and dropping what everyone outside of your LDR will regularly tell you is insanity, is a personal affront and anathema to this stupid and most insidious form of ONEitis.

LDRs are the most easily identifiable form of ONEitis and it would be laughable if it weren't so damaging to a guy's life progression. The LDR man would sacrifice years of his life in this pitiable effort to pursue his 'soulmate' across the planet or even a hundred miles away. The very thought of refuting the idea that an LDR can work is equal to denying his belief this stupid, fantasized ONEitis fueled idealization that he's swallowed for the better part of his life.?
It’s easy to criticize an LDR in the terms of questioning either party's earnestness and fidelity in entertaining an LDR and this is usually the tact that most people giving advice on LDRs follow. One or both parties are or will 'cheat' on the other over the course of time, its true, but LDRs are far more telling of a mentality that results in much more damaging consequences as a result of deeply conditioned self-expectations and fears.

I can't begin to list the number of otherwise intelligent and ambitious men I’ve known who've drastically altered the course of their lives to follow their ONE. Men who've changed their majors in college, who've selected or switched universities, men who've applied for jobs in states they would never have considered, accepted jobs that are sub-standard to their ambitions or qualifications, men who've renounced former religions and men who've moved across the planet all in an effort to better accommodate an idealized woman with whom they've played pseudo-boyfriend over the course of an LDR only to find that she wasn't the person they thought she was and were depressive over the gravity that their decisions played in their lives.

An LDR is akin to an LJBF, but writ large and festering in a man's life. You play surrogate boyfriend, voluntarily accepting and internalizing all of the responsibilities and accountabilities of being a woman's exclusive, monogamous partner with no expectation of reciprocating intimacy or sexuality. It is the ideal situation for a woman in the same manner a Booty Call is for a man - all sex with no expectations of monogamy or commitment. However an LDR is worse than a LJBF arrangement since it pervasively locks a man into a success or failure mentality with regards to the relationship actually being legitimate. Afterall, she's agreed to be his girlfriend (from miles away) and if he's the one to falter it's his lack of perseverance in this silly ONEitis ego-investment that dooms them. Once the LDR inevitably ends he's the one left with the self-doubt, he's the one beating himself up over wasting time, money and effort and he's the one feeling guilty whether he or she is the 'cheater'.

An LDR is like having an invisible friend with whom you're constantly considering the course of your actions with. Consider the personal, romantic, familial, educational, ambition-wise, business-wise, personally maturity and growth opportunities that you've limited yourself from or never had a chance to experience because of this invisible friend. When you finally divorce yourself from this invisible friend, will it have all been worth it? Guys cling to LDRs because they've yet to learn, in POOK's inimitable words, that Rejection is better than Regret. AFCs will nurse along an LDR for years because it seems the better option when compared with actually going out and meeting new women who are potential rejection. They think its better to stick with the 'sure thing' than risk possible rejection, but it's the long term regret that is the inevitable result of an LDR that is life damaging. Nothing reeks of desperation or verifies a lack of confidence more than a guy who self-righteously proclaims he's in an LDR. Women see you coming a mile off, because you are a guy without options. In fact the only reason a man entertains an LDR is due to a lack of options. If you had more plates spinning an LDR would never look like a good idea. And finally, I'm sure I'll see the "not in my case" defense posted here about how you actually DO see your invisible friend once every 4 or six months. To this I'll say again, what opportunities are you censoring yourself from experiencing by playing house with a woman you only see so often? Do you honestly think you're the exception to the rule? I'm sure you do.
 

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Rollo, I was in the middle of writing you a PM last night when I decided to hit the sack. I wish I had now because this thread has gives me a headache.

Anyways...

I agree with some of what you've said in the post. Especially about not having many other options or plates spinning. This is true in my case, but I believe it's true for rather legitimate reasons i.e. I feel alienated where I live. I have a miniscule social circle and the people my age here generally cheese me off. This is contrast to Canada, where I spent my college exchange for a year. I was in my element, I made a whole load of contacts and had girls circling around me like hawks.

However, the girlfriend and I decided that the LDR could be sustained, aslong as we saw each other regularly and we were both determained to give it a go because we loved each other. Yes, I have a mild case of oneitis over this girl, but heck, doesn't every partner have some oneitis over the partner they love?
Take your relationship for example. You've been married 10 years. If your wife had to leave with her job for 10 months and you had to stay put, are you suggesting you'd split up with her? I'd beg to differ.
Yes, I do have a slight oneitis over her because I think she's one in a million. Even if I HAD to split up with the girl and find someone else, I not only think I'd be searching for a long time, but I'd never forget about her, just like the two other girls I've loved and lost in my life so far.

We last saw each other at christmas and we were due to see each other at the end of this month until she kissed another guy. Now my focus is upon my studies. However, since I've decided to give her another chance, we'll be seeing each other in the next 8-10 weeks. I've also just been accepted onto a masters course in canada, so I'll be back for another year, come August.

I'm saying all this because even though we are in an LDR, there was always light at the end of the tunnel. It was a period away from each other, not goodbye, I'll seeyou when I see you.

But, I suppose this was all eclipsed when she kissed another guy. This little episode has been making me think hard about the whole situation and at the moment, my stance is that I'm going to let her have another shot, but I'm sitting back and watching how things go down.
I'm pondering whether I should go out and see other girls, but I feel I'd just be doing this out of spite, or jealousy.
 

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If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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