Sexual Fluidity

[Rollo Tomassi]

Why Women Are Leaving Men for Other Women

And again here:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/personal/04/23/o.women.leave.menfor.women/index.html

If a guy can't be a Man, there's a woman somewhere ready to do it for him

"Also, these women are attracted to the masculinity in me. I'm physically strong. I succeed in business, and they see my confidence."

Thoughts?

 

[ketostix]

Well I find it interesting that women and society work to eliminate in men all the things women are actually attracted too. Then women lament and long for someone with those qualities, even settling for someone who isn't even actually a man. I think all this scrambling of gender roles by society has some people confused and mixed up. It also seem that a butch female faces less resistance acting like a man than does an actual man.

 

[Warrior74]

I think Oprah wants to soften up her base before her and Gail come out the closet.

I think in women who are not genetically predisposed to being gay, its just a passing phase. I know many girls who have been in relationships with women but they come back to dating men. In the end they can't fight biology and their own real desires. It doesn't really bother me or upset me at all. Also around my way, most of the lesbians are pretty unattractive and every single one of them I've chatted with has admitted they would take some dik, and that boys never seemed to like them, leading me to believe that some dykes are just the "Ugly AFCs who go gay" of the girl world.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Wow, lesbians. Coming out the closet, even. What will they think of next?

 

[ketostix]

Wow, lesbians. Coming out the closet, even. What will they think of next?

Next, heterosexuals being put into the closet. Well shoot they're kind of already doing that .

 

[DonGorgon]

this juat another socialy destructive side effect of capitalism... old values and norms are irrelevant in the face of the ever increasing need for increased efficiency and productivity. the old fashions submissive woman who nurtured the man and kids is just not financially profitably enough.

so now we have working women earning like men and acting like men. so they dont need men as they once did. hence the breakdown of male female relationships.

 

[Mr. Me]

Why women are leaving men for other women? Because it turns out they're really lesbians deep down inside their closets next to their Manolo Blahnik shoes next to their hiking boots.

Much ado about lezbos coming out. And again, the media has to twist it so that it's a subtle put down about men ("Why women are leaving men..."), because you know, in this case the media source is Oprah.com. Women have been leaving men for years. They still do. And they usually hook up with other men. No big news there. So, why isn't the title "Why women are hooking up with women"? Ah, sexual fluidity. It's more then just semen.

 

[Luthor Rex]

I think Pook was right, this is part of people becoming disconnected from nature.

Also, I think it's some kind of weird self-delusion that has gripped large swaths of the populace. In the matrix, any bullsh!t can seem reasonable.

 

[Hooligan Harry]

Its rare to come across really attractive women who are gay. Normally, its the right fuglies who end up licking carpet. Those that experiment or consider themselves bi are normally doing it because they are hedonists/attention *****s more then anything else. The fact that society encourages lesbianism has also led to an increase in it.

I think that with women earning more these days they are less reliant on men to provide for them. So they can get that provider role fulfilled by another woman instead. Its made it easier to be a rug muncher.

What I always find amusing is how often one of the partners in the relationship tries to look like a man. Its ironic. Here women are declaring love and attraction for other women, yet they end up dating women who are doing everything they can to look like men and act like men.

 

[Jitterbug]

Spot on, Harry. I know a lot of lesbians (played mixed soccer) and the vast majority of them are like that. However, many of them still give us guys *that* look when we change our shirts after the game and would probably jump us, given the chance. Not that we're keen at all. *shudder*

 

[Scaramouche]

Dear Rollo,
Well May you ask,it is a phenomenum that is far more common than most people are prepared to acknowledge....A kick in the guts I have never recovered from..... My Lady of many years,Mother of two children and in general enjoying a fantastic life chose to jump over the fence to live with two Lesbians....There were no real tell tale signs,she had her Car, plenty of Holidays away,never worked,plenty of Mazooma...First she started to become interested in Yoga,well it started that way then became an obsession....The first thing to go was her beautiful long Ash blonde hair,it just got shorter then shorter until it became what we call a Crew Cut.Once I expressed sadness at her latest haircut,she went the next day and got her Hairdresser to cut it yet shorter....Then she started to neglect her appearance,always dowdy-looking,Once I offered to buy her a new outfit for her Birthday....The response "What to have Men leering at me?".....The next to go was Wine,then came meat,then she became a Vegan....As I had A convalescing Son and two daughters to consider,I had to take on the Cooking duties......Sex,which had previously been exceptionally good,became more and more difficult to negotiate,she got up early,went to bed after I fell asleep,pretended to be asleep....When she did perform the deadly deed it was grudgingly,"Come on hurry up""Hope you got something out of that because I didn't"....Get the Picture?Once after a heated disccussion about her celibacy,she came down to the Breakfast Table with the contact page of our local Rag,she had underlined some of the ads,with little comments like..."She'll fvuck for you"another"this one likes canoeing,could be fun"....Sick Huh?....I blamed Yoga,she used regularly attend Ashrams which cost me about a thousand bucks a time,as she wasn't playing ball with me I closed the joint Cheque account gave her a housekeeping allowance....Her response was to start giving private yoga lessons,the best customers were a pair of wealthy Lesbians,now she had reasons for being out every night,then there were the girls parties,the valuable Jewellry she started wearing....gradually she drifted into the Network...Enough of me...Rollo asks a question,why do they do it?His sources try to answer,inadequately in my opinion,I often muse over this and really have no coherant answer....So I can't really help either....Must say that rumours to the contrary the Lesbians she hung with and the ones I meet today,in general are not the archetypal Fat,Hairy Dykes,but seem in the main very attractive,intelligent Women......Is there an answer?

 

[STR8UP]

I would like to fluidly make my way into the panties of one lesbian I know. Supposedly she's strictly chickly, but she WAS married to a man once upon a time.

Eh, not worth the time.

 

[Luthor Rex]

you know why they are doing that?

because they didn't have sex with ME

once you gone white, you know you done right!

:crackup:

 

[TheBucketOfTruth]

Uh oh, someone lock this before The Logical Player replies.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

I find it interesting that even in a homosexual relationship, there is still a dominant and a passive participant. I had originally posted this link in response to this thread:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=159703

But I felt it deserved it's own as a topic.

Like I posted initially, I think it's interesting that an emphasized point of attraction for formerly heterosexual women should be looking for the same masculine traits (physical strength, business acumen, confidence) that the men they left had (or should've had). It's as if they're seeking out the attractions, qualities and aspects of a heterosexual relationship with their own gender. And of course the life long masculininized lesbians are only too eager to point out how much better they fulfill that masculine ideal than men.

I think it's also interesting to see how readily women are aroused by anything sexual - gay, straight, bi - while heterosexual males and homosexual males are selective and polarized in what arouses them. If there is any relevancy to the idea of "sexual fluidity" it's much more pronounced in females. I'm sure there are instances of previously heterosexual males "going gay" and moving into a homosexual lifestyle after a marriage, but it's statistically insignificant to women doing the same. And even in the reversed case, I'm not sure how many gay men left their heterosexual mate to seek out a more idealized feminine man to compensate for what they lacked in their marriage.

 

[Scaramouche]

Dear Rollo,
Your Quote"Like I posted initially, I think it's interesting that an emphasized point of attraction for formerly heterosexual women should be looking for the same masculine traits (physical strength, business acumen, confidence) that the men they left had (or should've had). It's as if they're seeking out the attractions, qualities and aspects of a heterosexual relationship with their own gender. And of course the life long masculininized lesbians are only too eager to point out how much better they fulfill that masculine ideal than men."this doesn't fit my Ladies Persona......Short Hair,attempted aggressively dominant attitudes to her husband....This Woman is the Butch surely?....In real, life it panned out like this for the poor stupid wench:In the twosome she had wormed her way into,the dominant Female was a Phsychologist,in a high power mentoring role,the other an attractive demure rather subdued, but still highly paid and high profile Public Servant..things were tickety boo for I believe about a fortnight then the Menage-A-Trois suffered a major hick up,Subdued passive Lady took quite a shine to my Lady and All Hell broke out....The Up Shot,my little Lady was out in the Cold....Came knocking at my door....Get real,The worm has turned....but I let her in,fvucked the Arse off her,then tossed her out...Revenge a Dish the refined chose to eat Cold.

 

[Tazman]

The Up Shot,my little Lady was out in the Cold....Came knocking at my door....Get real,The worm has turned....but I let her in,fvucked the Arse off her,then tossed her out...Revenge a Dish the refined chose to eat Cold.

lol, nice.

 

[DJDamage]

I find it interesting that even in a homosexual relationship, there is still a dominant and a passive participant.

What irks me the most, is the fact that lesbians/feminists have over the years criticized and ridiculed the domineering nature of men with the way they treated women in relationships, which has resulted in laws being passed and constant media attacks that helped to pussified men in such ways that they are now literarily afraid to approach women. This also resulted in men believing that relationships are based on "total equality" even though in nature it does not exists, which of course results in the woman taking over and becoming the dominant figure in the relationship.

Men should be the dominant figure in the relationship, its part of our make up encoded in our genes, and women love it as long as they are attracted to those men from the get go and don't lose respect for them.

However those same lesbians/feminists have nothing negative to say when one dominant lesbian treats a submissive lesbian in such manner due to them belonging to the same gender which is by itself a hypocrisy.

 

[mrRuckus]

this juat another socialy destructive side effect of capitalism... old values and norms are irrelevant in the face of the ever increasing need for increased efficiency and productivity.

When people say "i'm ambitious" or when women say "i want a guy with ambition" does this only refer to making money or getting promoted?

I'm not really all that interested in either. I already make decent money and i don't want the responsibilities of higher positions... and i have no desire to run a business or anything like that. I guess i am a capitalistic failure, but whatever...

I have ambitions in other things instead. Is that sufficient?





There as a funny episode of Californication where one woman went lesbo for a while. She quit it saying, "it's way too much work to get a woman off."