Setting up dates on OLD

[djthiago1]

How do you fellas set up your dates on OLD?
I think i lost my mojo, convos are going fine, but it goes downhill as soon as i try to set a date.

 

[gravityeyelids]

You'll get a lot of flakes. It's a numbers game. Of 50 girls, you might only have a convo with 2. Of two of those, you might only set up a date with one, and that one might flake. Honestly, OLD is a pretty massive waste of time in general, but it can work. I do however think that text game is EXTREMELY important. You can cover a lot of ground VERY quickly by simply being good at having a clever convo with really sexual undertones but not getting overtly sexual immediately. Girls very easily pick up when a message has a sexual, playful vibe without being creepy, and it can REALLY help you set the groundwork.

I think in terms of getting the date - it's important to bounce to text quickly. I'd say after a good 5-10 solid messages, you can just go with something like "here, text me xxx-xxx-xxxx". Or even just give her an excuse: "here, this app sucks, text me: xxx-xxx-xxxx" or whatever. You're not writing a book here, you don't have time to sit there all day and try to schmooze these girls. Get in and get out. A few playful, mildly sexual messages back and forth and go for it.

Once you're texting, you should relatively quickly be setting a date up, once she feels mildly comfortable. I don't think it has to be super clever. You can work it into things or your inside jokes in a clever way, or just come with "let's grab a drink soon, when are you free?". You want to find out with very little effort whether she's willing to meet up or not, so that you can move on to the next one if she doesn't. You shouldn't be spending more than 3 days messaging IMO before trying to set something up.

Another thing is being PATIENT. I think one of the best ways to scare them off is messaging back quickly. You should not be checking this thing every hour. It should periodically be 3-4 hrs later or the next day when you get back. Sometimes even longer. Rules can be stupid, but take like twice as long to message back as it took her to get back to you.

At least those are my thoughts on it.

 

[djthiago1]

You'll get a lot of flakes. It's a numbers game. Of 50 girls, you might only have a convo with 2. Of two of those, you might only set up a date with one, and that one might flake. Honestly, OLD is a pretty massive waste of time in general, but it can work.

I think in terms of getting the date - it's important to bounce to text quickly. I'd say after a good 5-10 solid messages, you can just go with something like "here, text me xxx-xxx-xxxx". Or even just give her an excuse: "here, this app sucks, text me: xxx-xxx-xxxx" or whatever. You're not writing a book here, you don't have time to sit there all day and try to schmooze these girls. Get in and get out. A few playful, mildly sexual messages back and forth and go for it.

Once you're texting, you should relatively quickly be setting a date up, once she feels mildly comfortable. I don't think it has to be super clever. You can work it into things or your inside jokes in a clever way, or just come with "let's grab a drink soon, when are you free?". You want to find out with very little effort whether she's willing to meet up or not, so that you can move on to the next one if she doesn't. You shouldn't be spending more than 3 days messaging IMO before trying to set something up.

Another thing is being PATIENT. I think one of the best ways to scare them off is messaging back quickly. You should not be checking this thing every hour. It should periodically be 3-4 hrs later or the next day when you get back. Sometimes even longer. Rules can be stupid, but take like twice as long to message back as it took her to get back to you.

At least those are my thoughts on it.

How necessary do you think it is to get the phone number first? I used to have more luck back when i was better at this by just setting up the date right on the app.

 

[gravityeyelids]

How necessary do you think it is to get the phone number first? I used to have more luck back when i was better at this by just setting up the date right on the app.

I mean i'm a big fan of it. I really think it crosses some "mental barrier" for them and makes them more comfortable and more familiar. For a lot of girls, meeting some dude off tinder directly is slutty and weird, but having a good convo and texting a bit first is a lot different. Idk bro, girls are weird. But it's seemed to work well in my experience. Plus you immediately feel out how compliant they are and it's a very easy way to gauge interest. If a girl isn't willing to transition to text, i wouldn't waste much more time. Of course, some girls will give a minor resistance to texting you and give you sh&t, but in the end, if they're interested, they will text in my experience.

 

[sangheilios]

As @gravityeyelids mentioned, online dating is a numbers game and overall a pretty big waste of time that could be better spent actually going out and meeting women. Not replying to people you match with, discontinuing conversations and flaking are pretty much the norm with this, don't take any of it personally. You need to consider that they may be juggling conversations with multiple guys at the same time and/or are just too busy and they easily forget about you. Remember, you are just a little avatar on a person's phone or computer screen and not "real" at all.

Use online dating as a supplement to help meet women but do not expect much from it nor rely on it. If this is your only means of meeting women be prepared for a lot of disappointment, again you'd be way better off going out to bars, music festivals, meetups, gym, etc.

 

[EyeBRollin]

It's a numbers game. Ask for the date within the first 5 messages. Anything else is just spinning your wheels.

 

[djthiago1]

It's a numbers game. Ask for the date within the first 5 messages. Anything else is just spinning your wheels.

How do you ask for the date? Should i just straight up give a date, place and time, or do you usually ask then when they're free? Asking them sounds kind of wimpy to me, but if works....

 

[marmel75]

How do you fellas set up your dates on OLD?
I think i lost my mojo, convos are going fine, but it goes downhill as soon as i try to set a date.

Simple.
1) first message something related to her profile and the question "How's your week/weekend going so far?"

2) reply to what she says and ask "Hows the site treating you?"

3) reply to her response and say
"Would you like to grab a drink together sometime and talk more in person?"

4) usually the response will be yes then get her number or leave her yours.

"Cool. Whats your number? I'll shoot you a text or call and we will work out the details."
OR
"Cool. Im not on here that much. Shoot me a text at xxx-xxx-xXxX and we will figure out the details."

That's it. Text or call and set up the date. This is a cookie cutter method you should be able to use and replicate over and over again to get as many numbers/dates as you want over any period of time. You could literally use this to set up multiple dates every day of the week if you wanted to with new women off therr it works so well.

If you spend 30-45 minutes a day doing this you should be able to pull 6-8 numbers a day easily as long as your profile/pics are good.

 

[EyeBRollin]

How do you ask for the date? Should i just straight up give a date, place and time, or do you usually ask then when they're free? Asking them sounds kind of wimpy to me, but if works....

It's in my sig. I start with a 2 lines of small talk, then throw this feeler out first -

"Let's get to know each other over a drink"

Some women won't answer, some women say "sure or sounds great." Some say they don't drink (to which I offer coffee).

Then I suggest a date and time.: "Tuesday, 6 pm?" I don't go for location until the time is agreed upon. It's a waste of time finding a place if the chick doesn't even know if the time works.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Having a motorcycle made it so easy. "Let's go for a ride" was all it took.

I usually wanted to not press for the meetup too early. So many girls are lame and boring to me that I wanted to screen them out first. More communication also builds comfort and makes it easy to get laid on the first date.

 

[The LadyKiller]

It can be frustrating. The guys saying to expect flakes are right. You could do everything right - not over-communicating, getting the number, setting up a date quickly, etc. - and it could still backfire. I've revived my online dating efforts in recent months due to my work hours and have had hits and misses. My FR of sorts - matched with 4 women in a 3-day span:
Girl #1 and I went on an afternoon date. Ok date, not spectacular. I was a little surprised when she jumped on the opportunity to meet up again, only for her to flake hours before our scheduled time.
Girl #2 I was sure was a lock. She texted me often, told me which days worked best for her, etc. When I texted her to lock in the day/time, she ghosted me.
Girl #3 was a good conversationalist, easy to talk to. I ended up avoiding a major bag of crazy by not being able to set up a date with her, however. She claimed to only be available on one day of the week (not because of work/activities, just her own level of comfort), which is a day I work. Next.
Girl #4 uses a dating site but is looking for new friends. Not worth it for me.

You then get the case of two girls before that:
Girl #5 and I went out twice. We made out towards the end of the second date. Two days later I get a text saying she isn't ready to date (?).
Girl #6 texted way too much before the date. I showed up and we had very little to talk about.

Long story short, you just never know. Things may work out great and lead to nothing. Things may seem rocky but work out. I'm in the same boat, but it doesn't hurt to keep trying. Nothing to lose.

 

[Glassguy]

Its all about screening out the low interest women and the women that I have low interest in. There is truly more to looks when you have abundance and OLD is all about the looks. So take the time to swap a few messages back and forth and at least find out what stuff she is interested in. She may be super attractive but tells me that she is a major feminist. Next!

I dont advocate to message back and forth for days before setting up at date however. If there is attraction on your end and she at least shows mutual interests as you (hobbies, what she likes doing for fun, etc) set the date up. It can be as simple as "It was good chatting with you but I have a very busy schedule today and I have to run. Let me know your availability and we can meet up for a drink and pick this good convo back up".
Thats it. Set the date and then try not to initiate too much communication between then and the date. It is important to set the date up soon, within 2-3 days is good so there isnt too much time for her to second guess, think she found a better option, chat too long over text and then there is no mystery, etc.

 

[djthiago1]

Its all about screening out the low interest women and the women that I have low interest in. There is truly more to looks when you have abundance and OLD is all about the looks. So take the time to swap a few messages back and forth and at least find out what stuff she is interested in. She may be super attractive but tells me that she is a major feminist. Next!

I dont advocate to message back and forth for days before setting up at date however. If there is attraction on your end and she at least shows mutual interests as you (hobbies, what she likes doing for fun, etc) set the date up. It can be as simple as "It was good chatting with you but I have a very busy schedule today and I have to run. Let me know your availability and we can meet up for a drink and pick this good convo back up".
Thats it. Set the date and then try not to initiate too much communication between then and the date. It is important to set the date up soon, within 2-3 days is good so there isnt too much time for her to second guess, think she found a better option, chat too long over text and then there is no mystery, etc.

It's weird, i get the feeling that i might be scaring them off for setting the date up too soon, but then again, i dont want to waste all conversation topics on the internet.

 

[Glassguy]

It's weird, i get the feeling that i might be scaring them off for setting the date up too soon, but then again, i dont want to waste all conversation topics on the internet.

The idea is to get them out on a date, have them come over and hang out, etc.

The women that bail after you tell them to meet up are more than likely attention wh0res or feel as if they dont want to commit to you because they have other people they are more interested in and are waiting on the same offer from them.

Remember its OLD and ALL about looks.

I have also done the complete opposite and had success........chatted on and off with them to the point that they ask me out.

If they see you as an 8-9, you would have to do something seriously retarded for them to fall off the map.

 

[dustmuffin]

How do you ask for the date? Should i just straight up give a date, place and time, or do you usually ask then when they're free? Asking them sounds kind of wimpy to me, but if works....

Hey let's go get drinks. How about Tuesday or Thursday?. We can go to this fun retro bar I know.

It's that easy give them a choice of days. This approach worked for me when I was on old. Was getting three or four dates a week.

In an ltr right now for over a year. She cooks cleans, has kinky sex and spends money on me. Probably the best woman I ever had. She wants to get married. I don't.

 

[Atom Smasher]

“Why don’t we __________ this Saturday?”

I have always found that phrase to be very effective. I think it might set up a question in her mind something like, “Yeah, why not take a chance with this guy?”

Try out the official Atom Smasher branded “Why don’t we _____ ?” That became my go-to phrase once I saw how well it worked.

 

[djthiago1]

“Why don’t we __________ this Saturday?”

I have always found that phrase to be very effective. I think it might set up a question in her mind something like, “Yeah, why not take a chance with this guy?”

Try out the official Atom Smasher branded “Why don’t we _____ ?” That became my go-to phrase once I saw how well it worked.

How far do you set the date to? I'm not putting a lot of faith in these dates set 5 days away with someone i met online.

 

[Atom Smasher]

I think anywhere between 2 and 5 days is reasonable.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

How do you fellas set up your dates on OLD?
I think i lost my mojo, convos are going fine, but it goes downhill as soon as i try to set a date.

Most pickup gurus and biz guy say its that principle of 1/3.

A 1/3 reject, 1/3 are fence sitters (attention *****s who are worst then rejection sense they are time vampires meaning better game saves you ten fold), 1/3 who are interested. Of interested parties, you can acquire digits. A miniscule amount show up, many drop off due to "bigger better prize." You will pull from the ones with the highest interest level in you. Again, it's why low level mgtows checkout completely or why incels are zeroed out from the start.

Pua reddit tors use to have ETP 2.0. Basically, you setup a sales funnel target for pulling baeeeees. Similarly, you test the market with beta pics or alpha. I find alpha has always worked. I have gone full retard **** boy alpha (even **** head commentary). Women bite. Some just to tell you what they think (again, likely more than beta male vibes). I've always found its 100x better a woman hates my guts versus not acknowledging my existence. You've flipped a switch. She feels something. Game is key.

Run said funnel. Test. Repeat. Refrain from any cuck or beta banter. Abrupt. Abrasive. Offensive even. "I'm not house broken."

Women like to fix a man. That beauty in the beast fairytale is indicative of female nature. They want a wild man. They settle fir captain beta once bad boys stop calling and the milks gone bad.

Finally, run cold approach. IMHO and exp, it's more time consuming and 100% more productive. Much of tinder and online is attention *****s, fatties, air brush shoop pics heavy filters and sluts seeking IG followers.

I lead. She follows or #nextSet!

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

How far do you set the date to? I'm not putting a lot of faith in these dates set 5 days away with someone i met online.

If I acquired digits, I setup social encounter (not date) ASAP. I am talking, within the week. She gets a Monday or a Tuesday. Never a fru/Saturday /Sunday. If I smashed, I might give a Sunday or Wed night.

Her ability to follow through is indicative of what to expect of her. Online or not, never tolerate ****ty behaviour.

If you request #, she asks for yours, I next a woman. I have zero patience for stupidity. Any "I don't give my number out" jargon, #nextSet

Her fertility and SMV is ticking down like the kiefer sutherland 24 intro. There's no do overs. Her best years don't grow back.

Prioritize being "that guy" cultivate game over the acquisition of anyone particular girl. Go out, do whatever it is you do. Approach three girls. Stack. Repeat.

The ideology behind spinning plates is that they drop off naturally. The genius is in being the guy who spins plates. Most guys never do that.