Hooligan Harry said:
Who says you eat it in a two hour window? Intermittent fasting means that you consume your calories in a specific window. It does not have to be in 2 hours. It could be 8 hours. 6 hours? You also dont need to ingest as much protein when you change eating patterns because you metabolize it more efficiently
The physiology of the human body is not built to consume 6 meals a day. It does not make sense from an evolutionary point of view. We are hunters, which means we need to often kill before we eat. Do you think they needed whey protein to help them recover after they dragged a kill 2 kilometers?
Like I say, many of the studies conducted were commissioned by food companies and supplement companies.
Im not going to post links to ENDLESS scientific studies proving **** that has been covered in the books I have suggested you read if you are interested in the concept. Likewise, any understanding of history will confirm that the modern diet of 6 meals a day is a VERY NEW CONCEPT.
Like I said, this stuff is out there because we have been brainwashed into thinking that we need a million grams of protein every day spaced out every 2-3 hours.
Warrior Diet
Leangains
Intermittent Fasting
Paelo Diet
Hit Google if you could be bothered. The evidence you are looking for is out there. If 6 meals a day works for you, fantastic. Keep doing it because its hard to find something that works. It worked for me too. What I am saying though is that there are alternatives. They actually work better when adjusted to suit your own bodies requirements and goals.
Take it or leave it.
Actually I'd only like to see one or two references
You're making a big deal out of this for some reason. And you suggest that society believes "a million grams of protein" is necessary each day?! Errm, I'm pretty sure most traditional "food guides" suggest 50-70g of protein per day. It's only in a few instances where guys are actually looking to get big and strong, that we propose eating 200-400g of protein daily. Why do we suggest that? Because it works for the majority of people, period.
If you aren't interested in getting big and strong and you're interested in some 13" biceps and a "toned body" then go ahead and do whatever you'd like. A generally healthy diet and good amount of activity/exercise will bring those moderate changes.
And regarding eating a meal in two hours, your reply doesn't make any sense. Unless your a derelict guy living in mama's basement, you have a life to attend to; be it a 9-5 job, education, hobbies, etc. Personally I don't have time to sit down to a 6 hour feast. I have time in the morning to whip up some eggs before work. I have a 20 minute lunch break at work. I have 30 minutes after work before I hit the gym, and I study afterwards until a couple hours before bed. I don't see any large chunk of time to sit down and enjoy a 5 hour meal.
The physiology of the human body is not built to consume 6 meals a day. It does not make sense from an evolutionary point of view. We are hunters, which means we need to often kill before we eat. Do you think they needed whey protein to help them recover after they dragged a kill 2 kilometers?
Is the concept of storing food foreign to you? Look outside, you'll see squirrels and crows hiding bits of food all over the place. They surely can't eat their whole "kill" in one sitting.
In case you haven't realized, homo sapiens evolved from chimpanzees and apes. You know, the ones sitting in trees all day munching on bananas and berries?
Humans were societal creatures even 100,000 years ago. We lived in tribes because we were weak individually. We learned to hunt together and bring down large mammals. We learned how to preserve meats so we could eat them whenever we wished, and our women sat in the kitch.. I mean, garden planting berries/nuts/veggies so we would have a constant supply of food. Heck, storing food is such a simple concept that even dogs do it. You give it a chunk of meat too big to eat? It'll eat half and bury the other half under the ground where it'll stay fresh until he's hungry again.
We didn't kill animals and sit around eating it all week like lions, as you seem to think.
Do you think they needed whey protein to help them recover after they dragged a kill 2 kilometers?
Are you even thinking about what you're saying? They gorged on protein-rich meats afterwards. Whey protein, while lacking the thermogenic effects of whole food, is one of the most bioavailable protein sources in the world, up there with eggs I believe. If our caveman ancestors had tubs of Whey protein they'd be in heaven.
The 3 meal a day concept came from the agricultural revolution. Men would get up at 5am, have breakfast, go out and work the farm all morning until 11am, come in and eat lunch, then go out and work the farm again until full dark. There simply was no other times to eat food.
I've looked in to this Intermittent fasting stuff which correlates with the Warrior diet. Honestly, it looks like garbage. Only having water all day until one big feed? Do you understand human physiology? Your body goes into starvation mode, and
some of you guys say that you feel "energized" in this state... Do you know why? Your adrenal glands start releasing adrenaline to cope with the metabolic stress, and your body starts to catabolize muscle mass to get it's calories, so your body is "eating" even though you are putting nothing in your mouth. Why wouldn't it take body fat? Well, muscle is inefficient as far as survival goes, so strip the calorie burning muscle away first and leave the bodyfat in case it starts to really get famished.
The Paleo Diet is actually logical and is based around generally what you should eat, rather than starving yourself all day then gorging for 4 hours. I follow something similar to the Paleo diet, and probably most guys who try to eat healthy follow it to one degree or another. Paleo Diet = Eat foods that our body has been built to eat through 1.2 million years of evolution.
I can point to 1000 people with Impressive physiques(or top athletes for that matter), and you'll find that the overwhelming majority of them(likely 99%) eat a high protein diet and space their meals out every 2-4 hours over the day. I challenge you to show me even one (1) picture of someone with a truly impressive physique that follows this 20 hour fast/4 hour feast protocol.
I could go on disproving this **** all night, but it just isn't worth it.
If you're interested in a mediocre body with a little "cut" and "tone" and you have no athletic aspirations, then I'm sure any moderately healthy diet will work, even this Warrior Diet/Intermittent Fasting/War Against Breakfast diet.
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Honestly dude... Coming on here and telling the vast majority of guys ,who've had success as far as getting big and strong through eating high protein diet, that they have been "brainwashed" and tricked, then backing it up with dramatized conjecture is not very convincing.
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