Sensitive guys

[Player_Supreme]

99% of the women out there are attracted to men, not whimps. That whole become sensitive movement was a washout. Women in the end preffered or ended up dating a jerk type over the mr. nice sensitive guy.

Think back to caveman times. Mr. sensitive was too scared to leave his cave to hunt the poow poow little bunny whabbits...while mr. man bought home the food...mr. sensitive and his type died out only to be born centurys later when the climate was more adaptable for his sensitive butt.

But women are still running on the old programming....Evolution forgot to tell their bodies it's ok to like whimps for marriage and kids...

uhh no offense to the cultured poetic sensitive members on this site.

The Romantic Predator

The sexual predator, that dark and mysterious figure, the "stranger", unpredictable, hinting at danger, tinged with violence... what is there that so attracts women to him? Truly, there seems something almost magical about those few men who seem able to mesmerize women at will. What secret do they possess that gives them this power, this intensity, this animal magnetism?
Users and manipulators is the key phrase. Such men have learned to spot and sniff out vulnerable women, the "wounded birds", the ones most susceptible to their particular brand of sorcery. They have mastered the art of "pushing the emotional buttons" of their fellow humans, exploiting the feelings and weaknesses of hurt people (and is not most everyone hurt?), playing women like a musical instrument. In their single-minded pursuit of pleasure, of self-gratification, they leave behind them a string of victims. These are haters of women, exploiters of human weakness, parasites, sociopaths*.
These ... fancy-grade hit-and-run drivers leave numerous victims in their wake...
Roger Shattuck, Forbidden Knowledge
This little deviation into the dark alleys of the criminal mind and the underside of human nature yields insight into the sad emptiness of the career seducer. There is little to envy in these creatures. They lead meaningless lives, and each successive "conquest" does nothing to fill the screaming, hungry void within. There is little to admire, considering the pain and wreckage they leave behind. We shy men can pride ourselves in being truly different, in being perceptive, sensitive, caring human beings, in being lovers of women. We are the ones who clean up the damage left behind by the monsters and the misbegotten. We bring beauty and healing into the world.


You see mr sensitive does have a purpose...to clean up mr. mans garbage....and plant daffodils and roses all over the f*ucking place...

 

[Starman]

Its OK to be sensitive..and show compassion, mercy, caringness all that other crap women want..

they want a MAN who is Emotionally STABLE enough to handle their emotional baggage..a guy they can cry on their shoulders..aa guy who will listen to their problems..a guy who has both mentally and emotionally forged himself to support both their down times..

BUT NEVER, i say NEVER ! Let a woman see you cry (unless you are at a funeral or your dog died)

Crying at wedding, movies, etc are USELESS in trying to convey that you are "sensitive"

Women Want you to be SENSITIVE to THEM..and PEOPLE AROUND YOU..

not to break down into tears or cry when you see a sunset

 

[Player_Supreme]

What a Woman Wants to Feel
Women tend to have more preconditions than do men concerning sexual
contact. They need to feel that more criteria have been fulfilled. These
criteria, these values, these keywords you should allude to liberally in
conversation, so that the woman has the sense that they are being met.
You should stimulate and induce them, using images and metaphors. You
should reinforce them, using Proof by Enjoyable Analogy. What are these
criteria? Here are some common ones:
1. Physical safety
2. Emotional connection
3. Trust
4. Destiny
5. Surrender to something greater than herself
6. Emotional variety
Physical safety is important to a woman because she rarely loses
sight of the fact that she’s physically vulnerable. Almost any male she
encounters would be able to physically overpower her. Much of the function
of her male mate is to protect her, and having a man who can defend her
physically tends to be important, if not necessarily consciously. Talking
about physical safety directly tends to produce thoughts of physical
danger, and might even make her frightened by you, so it’s much better to
talk about states of relaxation and comfort. These states imply inducing a
sense of physical safety, without making her think of falling off a cliff or
being attacked while walking to her car.
“Destiny” and “surrender” are particularly revealing, particularly
important. Sex can be so meaningful for a woman, so dangerous and
powerful, that it’s easier for her to experience it if she can disown
responsibility. She’ll therefore rationalize: Sex wasn’t her idea, it wasn’t
your idea—it just happened. It was destiny. It wasn’t planned—she was
swept away. Her passions were overwhelming. It just happened. It was
meant to be. This also reflects the feminine emphasis on the irrational and
nonlogical, and the belief that the Unknown easily sweeps aside human
plans. Women tend to believe that when something is unplanned, when
something overpowers human thought and intention, it’s more valid and
more true. In fact, the notion of destiny is so commonly applied that it
seems to be a built-in category, a built-in criterion, a built-in test as to how
she feels about a relationship. When she feels really really good about a
sexual situation, then it was meant to be. If she stops feeling good about it,
then it wasn’t meant to be—but, hey, there’s this really cute, really fun guy



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she just met—and maybe…maybe a relationship with him is just… meant
to be… Surrender is similar—sex, for a woman, should be a matter of
giving in to something overwhelming—giving in to an overwhelming
passion, to something that’s so right that she has no choice in the matter.
At most, her only choice should be whether, or when, to recognize the
inevitability of the situation. Look, this is not the most pleasant of thoughts,
but in the real world, in practice, most women, to feel as strongly as they
wish, need to feel that some outside agency is causing things to happen—
that they are passive and receptive, and that fate, or destiny, or passion, or
an overwhelmingly powerful man is taking responsibility for what she is
feeling. She wants to feel that the thing she’s dealing with is so powerful
that she can be passive and enjoy responding to the rich variety of feelings
this powerful thing is eliciting.
This brings up another matter: emotional variety. Women like using
all their emotional muscles—they like feeling happy and sad and proud and
humiliated and wanted and unwanted. They want to you hit every note on
the keyboard, at least once in a while. If you only seek to elicit happy-face
emotions in a woman, she will feel bored. She will feel unchallenged. She
will feel as if the relationship is incomplete, and that she’s not pushing
herself and not developing herself. And the negative emotions she
experiences as part of a relationship often validate the depth and
importance of that relationship for her. “Oh, if he can make me feel
Negative Emotion X and yet I still love him, this must be a really important
relationship! This is the real thing! This is fate! This was meant to be!”
When a woman dumps a man, it’s usually not because of the
negative emotions he was inducing—it’s usually because the positive
emotions he was inducing weren’t strong enough. Now, as a side note, I
don’t particularly like these conclusions. When I was very young, I certainly
wouldn’t have accepted them--I thought men and women were pretty much
the same, and any differences were just products of culture, early
childhood programming, etc. But no—culture has a strong impact, yet men
and women are basically wired in different ways. Behavior that can seem
rude and pointless to men—that is, being a ****-- can feel like an exciting
emotional workout to women.
A woman tends to yearn for a sense of safety—she therefore is
drawn to “strength” (e.g., dominance), and often needs to feel that the man
she’s with is strong. Oftentimes “*****y” behavior is an attempt to elicit a
show of dominance from you. Because a woman wants you to be “strong,”
she will also typically provide opportunities for you to demonstrate strength
and earn her respect; she can do this by playing the needy, helpless, Lost
Little Girl; by teasing you and inviting you to tease her in return; or by
seeming argumentative, hostile, and uncooperative.


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A woman tends to identify with the “strength” of the man she’s
involved with—that is, when he acts in aggressive, resolute, forceful ways,
it makes her feel good. That often also applies to “strong” behaviors
toward her; a woman often interprets your ability to be aggressive/ resolute/
forceful/ dominant/ obnoxious toward her as a measure of how well you
could protect her from others’ aggression, if the need arose. Whereas a
man tends to choose a woman primarily for her beauty, a woman tends to
choose a man because that man embodies characteristics she would like
to embody; a woman wants a man she would, on some level, like to be. For
the record, the practice of identifying with the strength of another is of
course a fair description of the structure of masochism—and female
fantasies often have a strong masochistic element.
She will often enjoy it when you express dominance, relative to
others and to her. Mocking her and using baby-talk both tend to make her
feel good—or rather, reassure her of your relative power, and thereby
make her feel good.
Along with emotional variety and the sense that she’s on an
emotional roller-coaster, along with the sense of surrendering to something
greater, women are often inspired by competition, and more to the point,
competition for a particular man. Remember, whereas men tend to be
interested in having lots and lots of beautiful women, having more and
more external experiences, women want tend to be more interested in one,
infinitely deep experience—that is, capturing a man who can lead her to
ever more emotionally powerful experiences. Therefore, as we’ll discuss in
greater detail later, women want The One Perfect Guy—and see
themselves competing with other women for The One. Prior to sexual
involvement (and the intense emotions which sex can unleash in a
woman), it’s efficient for a woman to rely on the judgment of other women.
Prior to sexual bonding, the opinions of her friends, and of other women
around you, have a strong impact on her. If there’s evidence that other
women find you attractive, you immediately become much more valuable.
Though men tend to be the ones who get up and march across the
bar to meet women, women see themselves as catching men. They
therefore respond strongly to rejection. When there’s a subtle rejection, or
there’s less interest than expected, a woman often has an internal
response of “I’ll show him! I’ll make this guy like me!” Finally, a women
typically has the sense that somewhere out there is The One—the perfectly
fitting guy, the one who can make her feel challenged and complete and
fulfilled, the one who can hit every key on her emotional piano.
Also, remember that a woman wants more—she wants to be
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than she’s felt thus far. Oftentimes, simply alluding to the idea of
experiencing more will induce strong rapport.

 

[Player_Supreme]

Holding Out for a Hero
Women, even the most independent of heterosexual women, tend
to respond very, very powerfully to a primitive archetype: the powerful man. When women get involved with men they don’t view as “powerful”— when they date “nice guys” and “good providers,” it’s often because they’ve been hurt by guys they’ve found more exciting. And that fantasy of the powerful, exciting man is almost always latent, and therefore something you can tap into.
Mr. Powerful is the guy you find in romance novels. Of course, in
romance novels he’s always rich and handsome, tall of stature, deep of
voice, and broad of shoulder, but those, for our purposes, aren’t his most important attributes. The important attributes are products of belief and behavior, and therefore, things you can adopt and demonstrate, in a way that excites the women you meet.
What are the attributes of the powerful man?
First, independence.
The hero doesn’t need her. Moreover, he frequently rejects her in subtle ways. He often leans away from her and moves away from her, out of arm’s reach. His body language, facial expression, and vocal tone frequently deliver nonverbal messages of “I don’t need you; you need me” or “You’re not important” or “You’re not good enough” or “You’re disappointing me.”
Second, the hero has plans and objectives, a path he’s chosen for
himself. These things don’t center around her. As far as the hero is
concerned, she can stay or go. Whatever she does or thinks or feels won’t sway him from his path. If she’s really, really lucky—if she proves again and again how worthy she is—maybe he will let her have a place in his life.But she will never be the center of his life.
Third, the hero is determined. The hero knows what he’s doing,
knows where he’s going, and goes after what he wants until he gets it.
Nothing sways him, and he doesn’t ***** or whine about mistakes or errors.
Make it absolutely clear that your aims are the only things that really matterto you.
Fourth, the hero is greater and more special than she is—he
doesn’t put her on a pedestal; instead, he occasionally lifts her up to his pedestal, and usually just allows her to fantasize him doing it. The rule is this: He must always demonstrate that he regards himself and his aims as more important than her aims and her needs. While women love intimacy,when it comes to love, they usually want intimacy with someone they see as greater, rather than someone they see as a mere equal.
Fifth, he challenges her. In practice, this sometimes means
undermining her confidence--and as we’ve mentioned, when you do this,
when you subtly or not so subtly reject or downgrade her, she’ll often find it stimulating and energizing. Use the following formulas: “Too bad you aren’t/don’t X” and “If only you were/could X”.
When you challenge her or criticize her, she’ll often become
motivated to prove her worthiness. You should occasionally point out her shortcomings, and most importantly, contemptuously point out her behavior when she tries to play games.
You can also be challenging by being a) volcanic and/or b) remote.
To achieve the effect of Amorous Vulcanism, you should raise your voice, make melodramatic physical gestures, be impatient, smolder, glower.
Occasionally act very angry. Your intensity will reinforce her sense that, in being with you, she’s part of something exciting.
To be remote, use silence a great deal. Silence, in combination with
eye contact, is very powerful. After you deliver a script, make eye contact and hold it silently—this will usually encourage her to process what you’ve said even more thoroughly. Also, don’t talk about yourself very much, except in relation to your plans and your objectives.
Your silence lets her project her romantic fantasies all the more thoroughly. Don’t talk about your doubts or errors. Silence can have the cruel but useful effect of heightening her anxieties. And in worrying about whether she’s about to lose you, she sees your value grow. And in seeing your value grow, she feels prouder of the relationship and more fulfilled.
Perhaps the best approach is to alternate Angry Intensity with Cold
Inaccessibility. These behaviors, of course, are the sticks—the carrots, which should form the basis of your relationship, are the good feelings you create through regular verbal stimulation. As much as possible, say only things that will induce strong states in her—induce strong positive feelings, negative feelings, positive feelings—and not much else.
Pump up her emotions, and then give her lots of silence. Ignore her. When you do venture something personal or reveal vulnerability, it’ll seem like a reward, and a mark of how Deep your relationship is becoming.
Bear in mind, though, that when women complain about a lack of
communication, they’re usually upset at the lack of pleasurable verbal
stimulation—that is, the lack of those kinds of experiences which this report has taught you to create. When you provide regular verbal stimulation and feed her plenty of bubblewords, “communication” will seldom be an issue.

One might think: Hey, you’ve pretty much just recommended
behaving like a Neanderthal.
Yes. Bear in mind that if you ask a woman about the sort of behaviors
described above, she’ll almost surely describe them as reprehensible and very unattractive. What does she like? Well, she’ll probably say, she really likes nice, patient, respectful, loyal guys who treat her really well…
On the other hand, if you simply manifest the sort of behaviors
described above, she’ll tell all her friends what an exciting guy she’s met.
Review
Women find you more attractive when you display the following attributes:
1. Independence. You don’t need her; she needs you.
2. Focus. Your goals are more important than anything else, including her.
3. Determination. You persist in the face of obstacles.
4. Superiority (to her and others). You’re the elusive prize; she should feel
that not losing you is a challenge in itself.
5. Alternating Intensity and Coolness. On occasion, be rude, challenging,
provocative, and/or frustrating—it’s much better to piss her off than to
bore her.


symp means a sympathizer to women. a wussy who waits on a woman and is compassionate to her needs...rubs her feet in hopes of getting laid...sit's and listens to her troubles and try's to fix them...buys her things in hopes of getting luck...sensitive, caring, nurturing...

The reports above are from a program marketing on the internet towards men. It is a cobination of psychological studies on female behavior.

 

[Dell SkyCat]

Anyone else tear up in here after watching the movie " I AM SAM" ? or was I the only one?? hmm.. Anywayz, It's not a very attractive thing to be overly sensative!!!! Can you remember Brandon Frasier in the movie ' BEDAZZLED'? How the woman wanted a sensitive guy and Brad transformed into one and it backfired on him? That kind of sensitivity ain't cool. I'll admit I can be a tad sensitive at times. My guess is that guy, If he was THAT much of sensitive then he probably got low testosterone levels. I ain't kidding. Just take a sneak peak at some of Diesel's threads and tell me he strikes you as a sensitive guy. In real life though, you never know. This opinion of mine may have hurt his feelings

 

[Player_Supreme]

yeah I think starman is way off course with his post. Probably just posting the opposite of what I posted. Sensitive men do have a function as I stated above...

 

[Starman]

hahahah WHAT the hell did you just post?? a Book?? Why not just post the link dolt!

"When a woman dumps a man, it’s usually not because of the
negative emotions he was inducing—it’s usually because the positive
emotions he was inducing weren’t strong enough."

or maybe .. too much positive emotion dulls the emotion?? and like a drug..it takes more and more to appease this sense of positivity/happiness?

 

[Player_Supreme]

Originally posted by Starman
hahahah WHAT the hell did you just post?? a Book?? Why not just post the link dolt!


emotions he was inducing weren’t strong enough."

or maybe .. too much positive emotion dulls the emotion?? and like a drug..it takes more and more to appease this sense of positivity/happiness?

1. the ebook is stored on my harddrive
2. "When a woman dumps a man, it’s usually not because of the
negative emotions he was inducing—it’s usually because the positive.blah blah blah"

...I see you subscribe to the double your dating dude...then you should know about being sensitive which is just the opposite of what he preaches.


3. Yeah I got that same newletter stating the above also. But the subject matter is about being sensitive...not getting dumped. Stick to the program and stay off the meth....just kidding.

4. I see you didn't bother to read the posting above either too bad for you

 

[bp1974]

Player_Supreme and Starman - pretty much every thread I open up I see you two somewhere on it b*tching at each other. Please stop it, or take it to PM, it's very pointless, but I guess you're both enjoying it.

Now back to the point.

Sensitivity equates to wimp in a woman's eyes, simple as that. But, the usual idea of a sensitive guy isn't a guy who's sensitive to his own emotions, but a guy who's sensitive to her emotions, to her state of mind. He cries when she's sad. He's quiet and tiptoes about when she's angry so she doesn't get angry at him. He's basically frightened of her emotions, and frightened of his own masculine side. He'll cry, sure, but he'll never shout, except maybe like some whiny complaining bytch. He's been neutered.

Being sensitive to your own feelings means knowing when you are angry, or sad, or whatever, and also knowing how to express it. You don't have to cry just because you're sad about something, you can just be sad. Likewise if you're angry with your woman, you can tell her, and mean it. Nothing wimpy about that. Yelling furiously like some out of control banshee is wimpy, even though it may seem macho, because it shows that you can't handle your own anger, it handles you.

If you can learn to have your emotions in a way that you are in charge of, rather than being overwhelmed by them, then you're both sensitive and strong.

bp1974

 

[stewartlittle]

Nice guys who show emotions are considered as 'girlfriends' by women. Although women complain about men who do not show their emotions, they want a strong man. This means that you never show your soft emotions, in case you need to talk to someone, talk to a real friend or get professional help.

Stewart

 

[The Great Obnarticus]

"With hard men, intimacy is a thing of shame - and something precious." -Frierdrich Nietzsche

He was a pretty big misogynist, yet he understood.

In my experience, showing sensitivity and crying is something I'd never do in front of a woman unless she was a LTR on the scale of several years. Personally, I've cried during a sappy movie, but I've done it alone on some idle sunday afternoon. I'm comfortable with it, in fact I pity anyone who'd think less of me for it. As far as attraction goes however, sensitivity is something I expressly avoid in the early stage.