Self Improvement is Over-rated

[Brak86]

and why can't we work on both self-improvement and "the game" at the same time, "I_Only_Live_Once?" It is not like they are inversely proportional.

It sounds to me that you have tried weakly to improve yourself but you get discouraged by the guys out there who have women. I think its pretty foolish for you to say that the slackers are the ones with women. While true in some cases, it is definately not a trend nor someting you cannot change.

 

[JonJack]

Originally posted by I_Only_Live_Once
Is putting myself first and going after women mutually exclusive? Can't I do both? If you guys didn't care about women, why would you be on a website dedicated to seduction? The main page on sosuave.com has a motto: "Secrets of Meeting, Dating and Attracting Women!"

And even Pook said, "I won't lie; self-improvement will get you no girls."
He said it would make it easier, but self improvement in itself doesn't do any good.

Well, the thing is I'm here not because I want to get girls. In the beginning I did have that idea. But after reading a lot of stuff being posted here, I realized that it isn't important anymore. I've said before that I can live my life without girls. Having a girl is a bonus, nothing more. It's like having a Ferrari. It's damn nice to have one but I can still live without one.

It's extremely difficult to put yourself first and at the same time want women so badly. I've learned this from experience. The whole idea behind an AFC is putting the women first before themselves. I doubt thinking about yourself is as important to you compared to thinking about women.

It's obvious when girls are clearly the objective. They clearly determine the means here. It is because of them that you're thinking about focusing on seduction methods. It is because of them that you question self-improvement.

Let me say though that it is perfectly up to you to decide how you want to go about getting girls. There is no right or wrong way. If you decide that they are so important then so be it. Just don't be a hypocrite and insult AFCs because they also feel that girls are so important.

 

[I_Only_Live_Once]

Originally posted by JonJack
Well, the thing is I'm here not because I want to get girls. In the beginning I did have that idea. But after reading a lot of stuff being posted here, I realized that it isn't important anymore.

Ok that's cool, to each their own. So would you agree that if a person did want to get girls as their objective, that self improvement is not that important?

 

[FRëSHURE]

Originally posted by I_Only_Live_Once
Ok that's cool, to each their own. So would you agree that if a person did want to get girls as their objective, that self improvement is not that important?

What you're saying is completely true.

self improvement is not THAT important to getting girls.

a way to reprashe that is

self improvement is important to getting girls, however its not the only thing.

The problem with guys around here is they won't attempt to get girls until they have ripped bodies, awesome clothes/car/home and alot of cash.

All of those things will help you get girls (especially as they give you extra confidence)

But you can get girls without them.

Self improvement has helped me from making out with 1 HB5 a month to making out with 20 HB7s+ a month.

Oh, and my life/relationships are all better aswell.