Seduction is a mind game(Long Read).

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Seduction is a mind game. Nah, I haven't gotten laid or gotten any numbers yet and you want to just stop reading the article here because of that go on, I'm just a guy speaking from personal experience. Past that? Okay, on to the tip then. Just like the topic says, seduction is a mind game. This basically means that whether a girl is attracted to you or not has little to do with your looks or what you say, but what you're subcommunicating in your mind. See based on what you're thinking and what you're subcommunicating, a female can sense whether you are a high value guy or a low value guy. Women chase high value guys, they blow out low value guys. I myself am still working on truly subcommunicating high value, so most of my perception of what conveying high value is what I've been told.

Now, first I'm going to explain to you guys what a low value guy is. A low value guy is overall, a guy who girls can sense is not being real. If a girl can sense a guys agenda, she'll know that that guy is of low value. If a girl can sense that a guy is trying too hard, she'll know that a guy is low value. If a guy comes off as desperate, girls will be able to sense his lower value. When a girl starts to sense that guy is of lower value, she'll either show disinterest or try to get rid of the guy. The point of all this is to say that, being lower or higher value has nothing to do with words, but just your overall thought process and what you're conveying. A lower value guy could have some of the best freaking lines in his arsenal, but he won't get girls because he's not high value. Then again, you can be conveying high value one moment, but then think or do something that doesn't convey high value. And trust me, girls can sense the most slightest change in what a guy is conveying. Thing is, you can't fool women when it comes to value, they can sense the difference between a low value guy and a high value guy. I know from experience that even if ONE thing is slightly off in what you're conveying, the girls won't see you as high value.

Now what's a higher value guy? A higher value guy is the type of guy that DON'T want to leave, the higher value guy is the guy who girls go crazy for. And let me tell you now, it has nothing to do with him being good looking or not nor what he's saying to the girl, nah, it's that he's conveying to girls that he's a high value guy. So what exactly seperates a high value guy from a low value guy? What they can convey. A lower value guy conveys that he's desperate, he cares too much about what other people think and he has an agenda. A higher value guy however, isn't desperate, doesn't much give a damn what anybody else thinks about him and doesn't convey that he has an agenda too the girls, however, conveys that he just wants to have fun with the girls. And that's another thing that helps convey high value, just go in there with the mindset of having a good time with the girls. Remember that 80's song "Girls just want to have fun?" will it's true and that's why they don't like boring guys. And overall, being high value is just about being your truly genuine, real self around the girls.

So yeah, there you have it. Now, the stuff I said about being lower value, I've seen tested in field. The stuff I said about higher value is basically stuff I've heard from more experienced guys. But yeah, the point of this whole post is that attracting a woman has little to do with what you say, but it has to do with how you say it and what you're conveying to the girl. I've proved this many times in field by just going up to girls with random sh1t and opening the set.
 

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Well put. The realization of this trend is good because it seems to only be understood by those working towards becoming a "higher value" or are already a "higher value".
 

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you know how people make fun of Elstud,
ironic if he becomes better than everyone else on this site in a couple of years lol.
 

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DJVladdy said:
you know how people make fun of Elstud,
ironic if he becomes better than everyone else on this site in a couple of years lol.
You're attitude is the exact reason you probably DON'T get laid. Maybe you should stop hating, stop being a KBJ and actually do sh1t, rather than flaming those who ARE doing sh1t. Maybe if you actually read this sh1t, except for just spamming and acting like a child, you'd actually get better. But not you, you enjoy staying at home masturbating and flaming people on SoSuave who are actually going out and talking to girls. Flaming people and masturbating is much easier for you than just going out and approaching girls.
 

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Hey, this is a very good post, dude.

Undoubtedly you'll run into criticism, yada yada, cause it's what
we do LOL.

You're only 17, but you've shown a great sense of introspection
and awareness. Continue putting your mind to it and you'll
make good progress. Refine your thoughts and expound on
your ideas, look forward to that. When I was 17 I treated women
as a supreme alien race :) You're light years ahead of me at
the same point in my life. Good luck.
 

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DJVladdy said:
you know how people make fun of Elstud,
ironic if he becomes better than everyone else on this site in a couple of years lol.

He has a lot more posts than you so I'll go with what he said. Elstud, feel free to ignore the flamers.
 

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This is chill. But I have to say that the root of value is a little subjective. Are you basing this concept of "HIGH VALUE" on the fact that girls like you? Or are you basing it on your view of what is considered high value in your own life?

I stay away from basing my "value" on anything external other than my family.

So **** it, high value is whatever you want it to be, people think to much. You are a monkey dude not a super human computer that knows the answer to every single thing. We are all monkeys.
 

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This post is incredibly relevant to something that just happened to me recently. My best mate who has a lot more DJ experience then me accidently pulled the chick i was trying to tune by simply being there and having fun. I think I must have come off as needy and desperate in the long run compared to him. I don't blame him for it, I know its not really his fault but it just goes to show that girls can identify that kind of thing very easily.
 

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I can honestly feel what your saying. When I feel confident and strong on my self image or in general "myself" .. in my mind its like the positivity in the aura surrounds women and attracts them to me...funny but in some form true.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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